Bytecoin [BCN] vs MONERO [XMR] who will be the winner in the Cryptonote War

[darkota]

I don't advocate Monero
I simply despise scam coins with scam premines like Bytecoin.

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[feina24h]

Monero is way better,No Premine and devs are active plus huge community

[stabland]

I don't advocate Monero

YOU simply HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO DO

[darlidada]

Just some simple market facts:

BCN:

24-hour Volume: 6 (coinmarketcap.com)
Only 6 buy orders and 12 btc of support (on polo, no other exchange accepts it)

XMR:

24-hour Volume: 187
Plenty of buy orders and 118 btc of support on poloniex (and now add mintpal/bittrex/hibtc/bter)

Nobody wants BCN. It's no wonder that their devs have to buy hero member's account or make countless newbie account in order to hype their coin. How else would they able to unload their 80% (pre)mined coin?

[stabland]

MONERO = PUMP'N'DUMP (because monero "devs" has to return money they wasted to it)

Do you really think somebody spent $8000 for Mintpal voting just because he is kind Santa?
Do you think they rent enormous amounts of  amazon servers and botnets just for fun? LOOOOOOL

PUMP! PUMP! PUMP! AND DUMP. Dump is coming!

[Brilliantrocket]

What's the prize? They're both dead on arrival. Bloat bloat bloat.

[drawingthesun]

This isn't even a competition. Monero's long term competition is Bitcoin with Side chains, the CryptoNote war is already over.

[stabland]

What's the prize? They're both dead on arrival. Bloat bloat bloat.

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[drawingthesun]

What's the prize? They're both dead on arrival. Bloat bloat bloat.

The pool bloat is now over, the Monero chain grows about 40mb per week. This is a good deal for an anonymous coin.

So it's not "bloat, bloat, bloat".

Do some research and you'll be smarter for it.

[Brilliantrocket]

What's the prize? They're both dead on arrival. Bloat bloat bloat.

The pool bloat is now over, the Monero chain grows about 40mb per week. This is a good deal for an anonymous coin.

So it's not "bloat, bloat, bloat".

Do some research and you'll be smarter for it.

It seems to me that before entering a race, your vehicle should at least be able to move.

Adaptive block sizing means right now it's hard to get money around in XMR chain because it is saturated. However, over the next hour the blockchain will expand its blocksize and this will be less of an issue. Please wait for your tx to be included in the blockchain.

Just wait for your tx to be included. That'll work well. You guys are a riot. Also I was not referring to pool bloat, but denomination bloat. Your blockchain will be many times larger than a standard blockchain. Can you say centralization?

[drawingthesun]

What's the prize? They're both dead on arrival. Bloat bloat bloat.

"You win"

Actually no.

Monero is now only growing at double the bitcoin blockchain rate.

20mb vs 40mb per week.

So you're either saying that it's not worth having an anonymous coin if the blockchain is double the size per week than Bitcoin, or you just have no idea what you're talking about.

[drawingthesun]

What's the prize? They're both dead on arrival. Bloat bloat bloat.

The pool bloat is now over, the Monero chain grows about 40mb per week. This is a good deal for an anonymous coin.

So it's not "bloat, bloat, bloat".

Do some research and you'll be smarter for it.

It seems to me that before entering a race, your vehicle should at least be able to move.

Adaptive block sizing means right now it's hard to get money around in XMR chain because it is saturated. However, over the next hour the blockchain will expand its blocksize and this will be less of an issue. Please wait for your tx to be included in the blockchain.

Just wait for your tx to be included. That'll work well. You guys are a riot.

Except we are moving, and fast.

You're either misinformed or just spreading fear, uncertainty and doubt.

[Brilliantrocket]

What's the prize? They're both dead on arrival. Bloat bloat bloat.

The pool bloat is now over, the Monero chain grows about 40mb per week. This is a good deal for an anonymous coin.

So it's not "bloat, bloat, bloat".

Do some research and you'll be smarter for it.

It seems to me that before entering a race, your vehicle should at least be able to move.

Adaptive block sizing means right now it's hard to get money around in XMR chain because it is saturated. However, over the next hour the blockchain will expand its blocksize and this will be less of an issue. Please wait for your tx to be included in the blockchain.

Just wait for your tx to be included. That'll work well. You guys are a riot.

Except we are moving, and fast.

You're either misinformed or just spreading fear, uncertainty and doubt.

Fast? Hilarious. I'll check back in a year, and I doubt that it'll be ready for prime time even then. You are the one who is misinformed if you think Monero is even close to being even usable.

[stabland]

What's the prize? They're both dead on arrival. Bloat bloat bloat.

"You win"

Actually no.

Monero is now only growing at double the bitcoin blockchain rate.

20mb vs 40mb per week.

So you're either saying that it's not worth having an anonymous coin if the blockchain is double the size per week than Bitcoin, or you just have no idea what you're talking about.

YEAAAAAH! MORE BOTNETS FOR MONERO!

[darkota]

Darkcoin Facts:

1) 50% Instamine by the devs at launch, Darkcoin devs had Block Reward set to 500 coins per block, they hold over 1million Darkcoins in their posession

2) Masternodes are a centralized entity, if someone bought up all the masternodes, they would de-anonymize Darkcoin

3) Darkcoin uses coinjoin for mixing, the maker of coinjoin, gmaxwell, stated that Coinjoin itself is hardly even anonymous, and that Darkcoin's "anonymity" is a joke.

4) Darkcoin's name affiliates it with Dark acitivities, like drugs, the Darkweb, etc, no normal bitcoin user, not to mention regular joe, will ever use Darkcoin

5) Dozenz more of issues, they're too long to list on this thread

Bytecoin Facts:

1) 82% instamine by a small group of miners over the course of 2 years

2) Bytecoin devs are shown to be incompetant, they recently tried copy/pasting code from other Cryptonote coins and it resulted in their own codebase getting even buggier than it really is, resulting in users loosing their coins when they sent them in a transaction.

What do Darkcoin and Bytecoin have in common? They were both hugely unfairly mined, with Darkcoin having a 50% instamine at it's launch by it's own development team, and Bytecoin having a 82% premine over the 2 years it was kept secret by a very small group of miners.

[darkota]

I own 210 Darkcoins, which is the most of any altcoin I own.

However, I am not deluded as some Darkcoin fanboys are.

Darkcoin's own devs freaking instamined the coin by 50%, 50 fucking percent! Who do you think those top addresses with 200k dark each in them belong to? The Devs!!

Darkcoin's name itself will never gain it acceptance by Anyone.

Darkcoin's "anonymity" is based off coinjoin, and gmaxwell, the maker of coinjoin, even said that it's hardly anonymous, and that Darkcoin's "anonymity" is a joke!

The only reason Darkcoin is going up in price, is it's being pumped and dumped over and over again by large whales for profit, I've seen 300 btc+ buy walls been put up just to drive the price up, so the whales can dump. Once RC4 is over, Darkcoin will not be supported by those large whales anymore, and the price will come crashing down to nothing.

[Brilliantrocket]

Darkcoin FUD:

I already explained to you in another thread that masternodes will be trustless through encrypted data. There will be no way for masternode owners to unmask transactions through collusion. Darkcoin made serious improvements to Coinjoin, Gmaxwell's comments refer to the old version. Point number 4 is abject bullshit because there are already users of Darkcoin who are not criminals. Also I'm glad if the devs have alot of Darkcoin. I wouldn't support the project if they didn't.

[drawingthesun]

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Fast? Hilarious. I'll check back in a year, and I doubt that it'll be ready for prime time even then. You are the one who is misinformed if you think Monero is even close to being even usable.

Interesting.

I have moved lots of Monero around and run into no issues at all.

I see, you're not misinformed, you're the one trying to misinform. I will remember you as a liar.

[darkota]

Darkcoin FUD:

I already explained to you in another thread that masternodes will be trustless through encrypted data. Darkcoin made serious improvements to Coinjoin, Gmaxwell's comments refer to the old version. Point number 4 is abject bullshit because there are already users of Darkcoin who are not criminals.

You're just speaking fucking bullshit and you know it. I know you are always in the darkcoin thread, and I know you have huge stake in Darkcoin. You should really think about not putting down other coins which hardly have any issues, like even Bytecoin. Cause Darkcoin has a HELL of a lot of issues.

Serious improvements to coinjoin my ass. Gmaxwell comments are not for the old version, he made those comments less than 4 weeks ago.

Darkcoin's name will always be affiliated with the Darkweb, and DRUGS. No one in their right mind will ever use that coin to purchase anything.

Think twice before commenting on other coins, even Bytecoin with it's 82% premine is more reputable than Darkcoin with it's 50% instamine...by it's own Developers!

[drawingthesun]

Darkcoin FUD:

I already explained to you in another thread that masternodes will be trustless through encrypted data. Darkcoin made serious improvements to Coinjoin, Gmaxwell's comments refer to the old version. Point number 4 is abject bullshit because there are already users of Darkcoin who are not criminals. Also I'm glad if the devs have alot of Darkcoin. I wouldn't support the project if they didn't.

The coinjoin concept is trustless by default. How does encrypting data make a difference? You seriously have no idea what you are talking about.