Rainer4256
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July 24, 2014, 05:03:51 PM
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Is it manipulation or simply trading? It's a free market. How do you even define a line? Trading is manipulation. Manipulation is done through trading. The whole point of trading is to make profit and if you're not moving the market yourself, someone else has to or no one gets anything at all. Free markets are absolutely fascinating though  I don't have to draw a line. I completely agree with you. In the crypto markets manipulation is not possible because there are no derivatives like for example in the precious metals' markets (paper metals). So, people who are complaining about market or price manipulations are simply envious. They would move the price for their benefit as well if they were able to. |
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Bitcycle
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July 24, 2014, 05:29:52 PM |
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Is it manipulation or simply trading? It's a free market. How do you even define a line? Trading is manipulation. Manipulation is done through trading. The whole point of trading is to make profit and if you're not moving the market yourself, someone else has to or no one gets anything at all. Free markets are absolutely fascinating though I don't have to draw a line. I completely agree with you. In the crypto markets manipulation is not possible because there are no derivatives like for example in the precious metals' markets (paper metals). So, people who are complaining about market or price manipulations are simply envious. They would move the price for their benefit as well if they were able to. I'm not 'complaining', I'm merely noting that the manipulation is obvious, clumsy, and blatant. |
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Rainer4256
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July 24, 2014, 06:16:28 PM |
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Is it manipulation or simply trading? It's a free market. How do you even define a line? Trading is manipulation. Manipulation is done through trading. The whole point of trading is to make profit and if you're not moving the market yourself, someone else has to or no one gets anything at all. Free markets are absolutely fascinating though I don't have to draw a line. I completely agree with you. In the crypto markets manipulation is not possible because there are no derivatives like for example in the precious metals' markets (paper metals). So, people who are complaining about market or price manipulations are simply envious. They would move the price for their benefit as well if they were able to. I'm not 'complaining', I'm merely noting that the manipulation is obvious, clumsy, and blatant. People are simply trading and thus the price is moving. If you call that manipulation it's your business. |
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Bitcycle
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July 24, 2014, 06:27:43 PM |
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Is it manipulation or simply trading? It's a free market. How do you even define a line? Trading is manipulation. Manipulation is done through trading. The whole point of trading is to make profit and if you're not moving the market yourself, someone else has to or no one gets anything at all. Free markets are absolutely fascinating though I don't have to draw a line. I completely agree with you. In the crypto markets manipulation is not possible because there are no derivatives like for example in the precious metals' markets (paper metals). So, people who are complaining about market or price manipulations are simply envious. They would move the price for their benefit as well if they were able to. I'm not 'complaining', I'm merely noting that the manipulation is obvious, clumsy, and blatant. People are simply trading and thus the price is moving. If you call that manipulation it's your business. You must be really new around here.  |
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Gizfreak
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July 24, 2014, 06:32:44 PM |
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new kids on the block sometimes tend to have a refreshing look at things and yes I am new also, so?
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Rainer4256
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July 24, 2014, 06:48:23 PM |
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Is it manipulation or simply trading? It's a free market. How do you even define a line? Trading is manipulation. Manipulation is done through trading. The whole point of trading is to make profit and if you're not moving the market yourself, someone else has to or no one gets anything at all. Free markets are absolutely fascinating though I don't have to draw a line. I completely agree with you. In the crypto markets manipulation is not possible because there are no derivatives like for example in the precious metals' markets (paper metals). So, people who are complaining about market or price manipulations are simply envious. They would move the price for their benefit as well if they were able to. I'm not 'complaining', I'm merely noting that the manipulation is obvious, clumsy, and blatant. People are simply trading and thus the price is moving. If you call that manipulation it's your business. You must be really new around here. So if you think it's manipulation what are you going to do? Btw I'm here from the very beginning. |
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YoyodyneSystems
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July 24, 2014, 08:50:05 PM |
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Any multipools still holding large amounts?
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Gibcity
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July 24, 2014, 10:39:24 PM |
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Any multipools still holding large amounts?
I doubt it. They payout daily in btc. |
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Bonn3rs
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July 24, 2014, 11:23:49 PM |
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Any multipools still holding large amounts?
I doubt it. They payout daily in btc. I doubt it too but I think someone reported a while ago that one pool was allowing users to hold any Judge so there might be a tiny bit from that if that was the case. Those people are very unlikely to dump I would imagine. |
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July 24, 2014, 11:24:43 PM |
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Any multipools still holding large amounts?
I doubt it. They payout daily in btc. I doubt it too but I think someone reported a while ago that one pool was allowing users to hold any Judge so there might be a tiny bit from that if that was the case. Those people are very unlikely to dump I would imagine. Trademybit allows you to hold your coins, although I am not sure if Judge ever made it to there. |
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utahjohn
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July 25, 2014, 12:21:03 AM |
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Another dumbass P&D in progress ...
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murderouskirk
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July 25, 2014, 12:35:46 AM |
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Another dumbass P&D in progress ...
ehhh what? What chart are you looking at? |
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baseke
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July 25, 2014, 12:41:42 AM |
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utahjohn
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July 25, 2014, 12:41:50 AM |
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Another dumbass P&D in progress ...
ehhh what? What chart are you looking at? Look at bittrex chart from about 16:30 to present. Same signature as last P&D. |
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gpools
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July 25, 2014, 12:43:04 AM |
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 cryptsy add judge cool
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jc12345
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July 25, 2014, 12:44:40 AM |
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If you have been around the block a few times you wil recognise the patterns. Put the price graph on "1 day", '1 week" or "all" and see the graph fits all the other coins. The ride is over. The peak for Judge was 2300. It is now on the downward slope and the P&Ders have moved on, but there will be the occasional mini P&D. It is now up to the devs, bag holders and long term believers to implement the 6+ month plans to get attention again and maintain price and trading volume to get it back up to 2300 and beyond if possible. All the best. |
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utahjohn
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July 25, 2014, 01:04:45 AM
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Put bittrex graph on 6 hours and you can clearly see the absorbtion of buy order's in preparation for P&D you will see this repeatedly. If you are investor grab coins each time, anticipate the reversal from dump to buy happens again.
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utahjohn
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July 25, 2014, 01:19:30 AM |
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And here's the dump ... buy this MF's dumped coins and make his P&D fail again LOL.
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judgecrypto (OP)
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July 25, 2014, 02:35:13 AM |
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Yet Another JudgeCoin Update (YAJU) Today we were added to Cryptsy! https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/269* Believe it or not this is a security benefit. Having coins in more places reduces the amount of coins that can be taken in an exchange attack * Thanks Cryptsy! Hopefully we get added to Mintpal and Poliniex soon. Tweet at them The current order of development 1) Short Term Wallet fixup release 2) Multipool that pays out in Judge Coin 3) Special Project (I have identified the project, now working on resources in the background) 4) Major Wallet - PoS fixup (We will analyze current PoS deployments and take what we feel are the best settings and implement) Besides development I also am looking to push ecommerce. This will not happen overnight. I am working to identify the lead for this position. I will try to be on IRC more so if anyone has any questions hit me up! Judge Crypto |
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MinerMario
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July 25, 2014, 03:21:15 AM |
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FINALLY. F' OFF BITSCAM. Off to Cryptsy. Last coin I had without another exchange. Soooooooooo Happy. The BTCs just left, and the remaining JUDGE coins are soon to follow. Thank you Judge, thank you Cryptsy, and FU Richie. Outta there. Happy days are here again. Be good all. |
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