Sheriff's investigators release initial findings on Obama eligibility

[Hawker]

I'm going to start a new conspiracy theory, and claim that, even though Obama is a legitimate US citizen, his group created a fake looking birth certificate on purpose, to distract the more fringe, er, I mean more scrutinizing citizens from something more sinister. Let them spend hours fretting over his fake looking birth certificate, while they institute a OneWolrdGovernment/AlienInvasion/LizardMen/MindControl policy.

So the correct answer when some nutter says "Its a fake, I've spent 7 weeks examining the layers in Photoshop and its definitely a fake." is to say "That's exactly what they want you to think."

I love it.

[conspirosphere.tk]

I'm going to start a new conspiracy theory, and claim that, even though Obama is a legitimate US citizen, his group created a fake looking birth certificate on purpose, to distract the more fringe, er, I mean more scrutinizing citizens from something more sinister. Let them spend hours fretting over his fake looking birth certificate, while they institute a OneWolrdGovernment/AlienInvasion/LizardMen/MindControl policy.

So the correct answer when some nutter says "Its a fake, I've spent 7 weeks examining the layers in Photoshop and its definitely a fake." is to say "That's exactly what they want you to think."

I love it.

Yes. That is the most plausible plot of a so failing conspiracy:
Is the Manchurian Alien Son of the CIA a Designed Scapegoat?
http://webabuser.blogspot.it/2012/03/is-manchurian-alien-son-of-cia-designed.html

Alternatively, they are hiding this:
Hmm, An Interesting Thesis, Indeed! Is Obama Really Mind-Controlled Twins?
http://webabuser.blogspot.it/2011/10/hmm-interesting-thesis-indeed-is-obama.html

Or this:
Obama Major Brain Surgery? An Obot? Massive Head Scars
http://webabuser.blogspot.it/2011/04/obama-major-brain-surgery-obot-massive.html

Related:
A birth certificate fake as a 3$ bill from the alien manchurian son of the CIA
http://webabuser.blogspot.it/2011/04/birth-certificate-fake-as-3-bill-for.html

[benjamindees]

Zombie Clinton
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z91bg9BghaE

Derren Brown
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIhANxh7t_Q

[Bitcoin Oz]

Obamas birth certificate has more layers than a chook farm

[cbeast]

That whole "layers" argument is ridiculous. You can make anything look like a composite image. In fact, this is common practice in making animations from stills.

[Hawker]

Obamas birth certificate has more layers than a chook farm

That's exactly what they want you to think.

[Red Emerald]

That whole "layers" argument is ridiculous. You can make anything look like a composite image. In fact, this is common practice in making animations from stills.

A scanner is going to make a bunch of links, not layers. There is only one layer. I haven't heard of links, but that is what he called them in the video.  There are not enough links to back up the claim that this image is not an electronic forgery (or so the video claims).  Some of the links shown in the video have just a date in them while another has the entire security paper background.  THIS IS NOT HOW SCANNERS WORK; THIS IS HOW FORGERS WORK.

I don't understand why you are talking about animation.

Someone has to be able to independently verify this.  Does no one have Acrobat Pro Illustrator?!

[Hawker]

That whole "layers" argument is ridiculous. You can make anything look like a composite image. In fact, this is common practice in making animations from stills.

A scanner is going to make a bunch of links (not layers. There is only one layer. I haven't heard of links, but that is what he called them in the video).  There are not enough links to back up the claim that this image is not an electronic forgery (or so the video claims).  Some of the links shown in the video have just a date in them while another has the entire security paper background.  THIS IS NOT HOW SCANNERS WORK; THIS IS HOW FORGERS WORK.

I don't understand why you are talking about animation.

Someone has to be able to independently verify this.  Does no one have Acrobat Pro?!

Its been done over a year ago by Donald Trump.  His guys examined it and he changed his mind and said it was genuine.

Which is a shame really.  Obama wants you to believe its a fake and spend all your time on that instead of worrying your pretty little head over stuff like the economy.

[jwzguy]

Ignore this Hawker, since you are proud of being ignorant.

9 days ago, Obama's lawyers admitted in court that the birth certificate posted on the whitehouse website was a fake. The judge upheld the position presented by the "crazy birther teapartiers" who want the constitution to be followed.

Here's the judge's decision (don't look Hawker! You'll be scarred for life!)
http://www.scribd.com/puzo1/d/89431332-Final-Decision-of-SOS-in-Purpura-Moran-Ballot-Objection-4-12-12

And here are stories with more details, which I'm sure will never be reported by the MSM.
http://www.examiner.com/article/obama-officially-ineligible?fb_comment_id=fbc_10150813560905801_22858408_10150815481950801#f2d58f4d41ea61
http://www.teapartytribune.com/2012/04/13/obama-lawyer-admits-forgery-but-disregards-image-as-indication-of-obamas-ineligibility-damage-control/


Regardless of whether Obama is eligible to be president, and whether it's an important issue to anyone personally, it seems pretty crazy to refuse to look at both sides of an argument. Especially if you're going to argue one of those sides.  

[vampire]

9 days ago, Obama's lawyers admitted in court that the birth certificate posted on the whitehouse website was a fake. The judge upheld the position presented by the "crazy birther teapartiers" who want the constitution to be followed.

Here's the judge's decision (don't look Hawker! You'll be scarred for life!)
http://www.scribd.com/puzo1/d/89431332-Final-Decision-of-SOS-in-Purpura-Moran-Ballot-Objection-4-12-12

What? Are you for real? Did you read it?

Also the lawyer said "We do not believe the president’s birth certificate is relevant to this case." The judge agreed. The case was dismissed.

[jwzguy]

What I'm referring to is that part that the respondents evidence, including the longform birth certificate, were deemed not authentic.

Again, this won't matter in the long run. But anyone who is refusing to look at that fraudulent garbage they posted on the whitehouse website once it's been pointed out that it's fake is just being silly. If you don't care about the argument then don't comment on it.

[vampire]

What I'm referring to is that part that the respondents evidence, including the longform birth certificate, were deemed not authentic.

Again, this won't matter in the long run. But anyone who is refusing to look at that fraudulent garbage they posted on the whitehouse website once it's been pointed out that it's fake is just being silly. If you don't care about the argument then don't comment on it.

The Obama lawyer didn't provide any evidence. It was irrelevant.

Birther bites the dust, yay.
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2012/04/birther-bites-dust/

The decision of the court, that was reaffirmed in the doc that you quoted: http://www.scribd.com/puzo1/d/88910250-Purpura-Moran-Initial-Decision-of-ALJ-Masin


Here is what the judge said:

It is unnecessary to reinvent the wheel here; the subject has been thoroughly reviewed and no new legal argument on this issue has been offered here.

[Hawker]

What I'm referring to is that part that the respondents evidence, including the longform birth certificate, were deemed not authentic.

Again, this won't matter in the long run. But anyone who is refusing to look at that fraudulent garbage they posted on the whitehouse website once it's been pointed out that it's fake is just being silly. If you don't care about the argument then don't comment on it.

Agreed.  Its best find something else to criticise Obama for.  One could look at his kowtowing to Wall Street or is that just too boring?

[JusticeForYou]

What I'm referring to is that part that the respondents evidence, including the longform birth certificate, were deemed not authentic.

Again, this won't matter in the long run. But anyone who is refusing to look at that fraudulent garbage they posted on the whitehouse website once it's been pointed out that it's fake is just being silly. If you don't care about the argument then don't comment on it.

The Obama lawyer didn't provide any evidence. It was irrelevant.

Birther bites the dust, yay.
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2012/04/birther-bites-dust/

The decision of the court, that was reaffirmed in the doc that you quoted: http://www.scribd.com/puzo1/d/88910250-Purpura-Moran-Initial-Decision-of-ALJ-Masin


Here is what the judge said:

It is unnecessary to reinvent the wheel here; the subject has been thoroughly reviewed and no new legal argument on this issue has been offered here.

Adam and James have something to input here:

http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/mythbusters-square-wheels-angle-2.html

[Red Emerald]

So I actually watched the videos on Snope. He goes through almost all of the layers in Illustrator and actually explains what people mean by optimization.

The only thing he didn't show was the stamp layer being the entire stamp and easy to drag around.

[check_status]

If this is Obama's real birth certificate then Obama should have no difficulty stating when his birthday is. Unfortunately, Obama doesn't seem to know himself when his birthday is. Is Obama 48, 50, or 52 years old? Don't ask Obama because he already publicly gave three different ages. The truth is easy to remember, lies are not.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wF_n-gn-Yo

If Obama is removed for ineligibility, any laws he signed are null and void. If he is impeached for illegal actions, like declaring war without asking congress for permission, then the laws he signed remain. Of the two methods of getting rid of Obama, I prefer the former, giving us an opportunity to undo any damage created by laws he signed.

[Hawker]

If this is Obama's real birth certificate then Obama should have no difficulty stating when his birthday is. Unfortunately, Obama doesn't seem to know himself when his birthday is. Is Obama 48, 50, or 52 years old? Don't ask Obama because he already publicly gave three different ages. The truth is easy to remember, lies are not.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wF_n-gn-Yo

If Obama is removed for ineligibility, any laws he signed are null and void. If he is impeached for illegal actions, like declaring war without asking congress for permission, then the laws he signed remain. Of the two methods of getting rid of Obama, I prefer the former, giving us an opportunity to undo any damage created by laws he signed.

He also failed to remember how many states there are which proves the USA doesn't exist as well. 

/sarcasm

[player3]

How many of you actually research and investigate candidates, their writings, speeches, and voting records prior to forming an opinion or voting ?

good question! make a poll 

[bb113]

If this is Obama's real birth certificate then Obama should have no difficulty stating when his birthday is. Unfortunately, Obama doesn't seem to know himself when his birthday is. Is Obama 48, 50, or 52 years old? Don't ask Obama because he already publicly gave three different ages. The truth is easy to remember, lies are not.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wF_n-gn-Yo

If Obama is removed for ineligibility, any laws he signed are null and void. If he is impeached for illegal actions, like declaring war without asking congress for permission, then the laws he signed remain. Of the two methods of getting rid of Obama, I prefer the former, giving us an opportunity to undo any damage created by laws he signed.

He also failed to remember how many states there are which proves the USA doesn't exist as well. 

/sarcasm

I was in DC recently looking at the flag flying over the capitol building, thinking that the only 51st state would be the moon or a space station. There is no way at this point  congress is going to make everyone redo their flags for puerto rico or the dominican republic or some occupied middle east country. After seeing that flag, I see a way.

[benjamindees]

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