Ryans' log

[h3speros]

you guys have hunch about the next small top when last one was 492? looks like we are not breaking 500...

falling is that you?

hell no, im offended that you say that adam, although i know you are trolling as nearly always so you are forgiven

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[RyNinDaCleM]

I was simply replying that an ABC can potentially be the A of an even larger ABC. Not that I believe that is the case here

[phoenix1]

Hey Ryan, your posts have been really insightful and educational - thank you. One thing I think that would be really helpful would be some more focus on the alternate counts on shorter time frames - from my limited experience of EW counts, 'it is until it isn't' and that can result in a 'loss of centre' when a count is invalidated. Personally I find the shorter time frames extremely difficult to count and would appreciate any help you can give.

That's a suggestion, not a criticism - you are already giving a huge amount here and you surely have a large amount of eager pupils already 

[RyNinDaCleM]

Hey Ryan, your posts have been really insightful and educational - thank you. One thing I think that would be really helpful would be some more focus on the alternate counts on shorter time frames - from my limited experience of EW counts, 'it is until it isn't' and that can result in a 'loss of centre' when a count is invalidated. Personally I find the shorter time frames extremely difficult to count and would appreciate any help you can give.

That's a suggestion, not a criticism - you are already giving a huge amount here and you surely have a large amount of eager pupils already 

Are you asking me to just start spewing counts all over the place? 99% of which will just end up invalidated? I can do that, I'm just not sure if that is the most productive way to keep this thread. I mean, if that's what people want (more choices/ideas, and by default, more chance for error) I can do that. I don't have a problem with that. I have a ton of possible counts.

[seleme]

You should make that post bold as it is "The market in few words" for all newcomers to read.

I think he's probably spent enough time with his excellent analysis without you pulling him up on cosmetics.

Kudos and keep up the great work Ryan. Your effort is much appreciated.

I'm not pulling him up idiot, I'm complimenting him.

[RyNinDaCleM]

You should make that post bold as it is "The market in few words" for all newcomers to read.

I think he's probably spent enough time with his excellent analysis without you pulling him up on cosmetics.

Kudos and keep up the great work Ryan. Your effort is much appreciated.

I'm not pulling him up idiot, I'm complimenting him.

I would make it a sticky in it's own topic if I could... The reality is that it will be buried in the thread in only a few more days, but thanks anyway!

[seleme]

Add it to first post if you can or at least link from it.

[RyNinDaCleM]

Add it to first post if you can or at least link from it.

Added a paragraph about market psychology and the link

[RyNinDaCleM]

Another wave-IV alternate count

[h3speros]

Hey Ryan, your posts have been really insightful and educational - thank you. One thing I think that would be really helpful would be some more focus on the alternate counts on shorter time frames - from my limited experience of EW counts, 'it is until it isn't' and that can result in a 'loss of centre' when a count is invalidated. Personally I find the shorter time frames extremely difficult to count and would appreciate any help you can give.

That's a suggestion, not a criticism - you are already giving a huge amount here and you surely have a large amount of eager pupils already 

Are you asking me to just start spewing counts all over the place? 99% of which will just end up invalidated? I can do that, I'm just not sure if that is the most productive way to keep this thread. I mean, if that's what people want (more choices/ideas, and by default, more chance for error) I can do that. I don't have a problem with that. I have a ton of possible counts.

i would prefer that you show us just few most, what you think is the most probable counts, or at least say that this count is not very probable if you post not so probable counts, thank you =)

[Schickeria]

Hey Ryan, your posts have been really insightful and educational - thank you. One thing I think that would be really helpful would be some more focus on the alternate counts on shorter time frames - from my limited experience of EW counts, 'it is until it isn't' and that can result in a 'loss of centre' when a count is invalidated. Personally I find the shorter time frames extremely difficult to count and would appreciate any help you can give.

That's a suggestion, not a criticism - you are already giving a huge amount here and you surely have a large amount of eager pupils already  

Are you asking me to just start spewing counts all over the place? 99% of which will just end up invalidated? I can do that, I'm just not sure if that is the most productive way to keep this thread. I mean, if that's what people want (more choices/ideas, and by default, more chance for error) I can do that. I don't have a problem with that. I have a ton of possible counts.

i would prefer that you show us just few most, what you think is the most probable counts, or at least say that this count is not very probable if you post not so probable counts, thank you =)

We should pay attention to not to overstress Ryan with our desires. Let him organize this thread how he prefers it to do. This is one of the most valuable threads if not even the most valuable in this subforum and there are very few threads here with more value than at most entertainment, to not to say: trash.

[h3speros]

Hey Ryan, your posts have been really insightful and educational - thank you. One thing I think that would be really helpful would be some more focus on the alternate counts on shorter time frames - from my limited experience of EW counts, 'it is until it isn't' and that can result in a 'loss of centre' when a count is invalidated. Personally I find the shorter time frames extremely difficult to count and would appreciate any help you can give.

That's a suggestion, not a criticism - you are already giving a huge amount here and you surely have a large amount of eager pupils already  

Are you asking me to just start spewing counts all over the place? 99% of which will just end up invalidated? I can do that, I'm just not sure if that is the most productive way to keep this thread. I mean, if that's what people want (more choices/ideas, and by default, more chance for error) I can do that. I don't have a problem with that. I have a ton of possible counts.

i would prefer that you show us just few most, what you think is the most probable counts, or at least say that this count is not very probable if you post not so probable counts, thank you =)

We should pay attention to not to overstress Ryan with our desires. Let him organize this thread how he prefers it to do. This is one of the most valuable threads if not the most valuable in this subforum and there are very few thread here with more value than at most entertainment, to not to say: trash.

agreed, my point was that how ryan has done this to this moment has been great, no reason to change that

[phoenix1]

Hey Ryan, your posts have been really insightful and educational - thank you. One thing I think that would be really helpful would be some more focus on the alternate counts on shorter time frames - from my limited experience of EW counts, 'it is until it isn't' and that can result in a 'loss of centre' when a count is invalidated. Personally I find the shorter time frames extremely difficult to count and would appreciate any help you can give.

That's a suggestion, not a criticism - you are already giving a huge amount here and you surely have a large amount of eager pupils already  

Are you asking me to just start spewing counts all over the place? 99% of which will just end up invalidated? I can do that, I'm just not sure if that is the most productive way to keep this thread. I mean, if that's what people want (more choices/ideas, and by default, more chance for error) I can do that. I don't have a problem with that. I have a ton of possible counts.

I hear you, though I was not suggesting 'spewing' ad infinitum  . It seems from other responses, that is no what people want  
But I was very interested to see the alt IV triangle count. I think knowing that these other very real possibilities exist can help with trading and risk management and also helps with the education process. But there is a happy medium and it seems you are hitting it

[myself]

Hey Ryan, your posts have been really insightful and educational - thank you. One thing I think that would be really helpful would be some more focus on the alternate counts on shorter time frames - from my limited experience of EW counts, 'it is until it isn't' and that can result in a 'loss of centre' when a count is invalidated. Personally I find the shorter time frames extremely difficult to count and would appreciate any help you can give.

That's a suggestion, not a criticism - you are already giving a huge amount here and you surely have a large amount of eager pupils already 

Are you asking me to just start spewing counts all over the place? 99% of which will just end up invalidated? I can do that, I'm just not sure if that is the most productive way to keep this thread. I mean, if that's what people want (more choices/ideas, and by default, more chance for error) I can do that. I don't have a problem with that. I have a ton of possible counts.

nah man simply some people do not want to use the examples you post here read about this make their own analysis and trades, some people want to be spoon feed with trade ideas so if X happen do Y if Z happen do W and if G happen do R

[phoenix1]

@ myself, surely some people do. And some of us just want to learn. Other counts can be interesting to see what progress is being made with that  
The Wave IV triangle was an interesting post as it is something I've been watching. Interesting that Ryan is seeing the same thing as an option.
Kinda ironic that you're the one asking for a PAMM  

[myself]

Kinda ironic that you're the one asking for a PAMM  

is not ironic because on a PAMM ryn get a cut here he gets nothing

[h3speros]

@ myself, surely some people do. And some of us just want to learn. Other counts can be interesting to see what progress is being made with that  
The Wave IV triangle was an interesting post as it is something I've been watching. Interesting that Ryan is seeing the same thing as an option.
Kinda ironic that you're the one asking for a PAMM  

I said earlier that looks like we are not going to break 500 so I'm too leaning more to option like that triangle, there's some indecision going on that makes it hard to guess that are we seeing correction to 530-550 or do we go down from here. Looks like daily ma20 is important.

It's true that I'm not familiar with EW, but I think It's better to learn from more probable counts than if Ryan posts many more options and doesn't write long explanations with them and long explanations takes time so I figured it would be better that he concentrates just to few most probable counts.

[RyNinDaCleM]

Thanks for the feedback on the issues at hand, but I am going to have to delete a few posts just to limit the argumentative text so we can focus on the the more important things. Nothing personal, to those who's posts I delete, just trying to keep it on topic

Bitstamp had 5  waves lower and 3 waves up nearly making it to the 61.8% retrace of the 5 down. There is nothing currently that tells me this rise is impulsive. Even more so because of the ending diagonal. So, for now, I leave a chart with another nested 1 down making the count either (i) of 3 of V and we are in the (ii) (nearing the top if it's not already in) OR (i) of 3 of (5) of III and we are in the (ii) (same situation as the other)


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On second thought, I'll just leave the posts, but try to keep it OT, thanks!

[oda.krell]

Thanks for the feedback on the issues at hand, but I am going to have to delete a few posts just to limit the argumentative text so we can focus on the the more important things. Nothing personal, to those who's posts I delete, just trying to keep it on topic

Bitstamp had 5  waves lower and 3 waves up nearly making it to the 61.8% retrace of the 5 down. There is nothing currently that tells me this rise is impulsive. Even more so because of the ending diagonal. So, for now, I leave a chart with another nested 1 down making the count either (i) of 3 of V and we are in the (ii) (nearing the top if it's not already in) OR (i) of 3 of (5) of III and we are in the (ii) (same situation as the other)


Edit:
On second thought, I'll just leave the posts, but try to keep it OT, thanks!

Thanks for the update, much appreciated as always.

Care to give a very brief rundown on what "study subgraph difference" is? A quick Google search gives me the idea it might be a MACD-like momentum indicator, but based on Hull MA instead of SMA/EMA? Yes/No?

[phoenix1]

Care to give a very brief rundown on what "study subgraph difference" is? A quick Google search gives me the idea it might be a MACD-like momentum indicator, but based on Hull MA instead of SMA/EMA? Yes/No?

Yes, the Elliot Wave Oscillator is a fast moving momentum indicator that can be replicated by adjusting the parameters on MACD and looking at the histogram. 5/34 appear to give approx the same results as Ryan, but I am not sure if that is the exact parameters he is using.

http://www.tradingfives.com/articles/elliott_oscillator.htm