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November 03, 2016, 06:29:08 PM
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Lol. Expect yourself to some private emails in which you are going to get insulted in several languages.

I totally agree with your complaints. I complaint about the same thing 2 weeks ago (which is why I know you are going to get hammered by some members  Grin). I bought NAV at 2k so I am not in loss but I still feel your pain. I don't know what people want to achieve by these overly optimistic predictions. As I said before, they only lead to newbie investors getting burned. These happy talks will not pump the coin. They will only burn newbies. Experienced people with a lot of money to really influence NAV price are not gonna listen to some few happy comments. Anyway ... my advice to you ... put these happy predictors on your ignore list, also the ones that attack you for rightfully having complained about it. Don't start a fight because it is not good for you (you will get banned over the long run) and for the thread.

But nevertheless, despite the price drop, I still think NAV is hugely undervalued at this moment. Today there was this article that I posted here in which they basically admit that anon coins based on mixing like Monero and Dash are not providing the anonimity they claim and investigators have been able to unmix transactions.  So from that point of view NAV currently is the only true anonymous coin out there. So don't lose hope. The market just didn't discover it yet. It looks like the market is dumber than I thought. The market prefers to buy unproven Zcash at 1000 $. And the funny part is that today it was released Zcash had a bug  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy. NAV should have a bigger market cap than Monero and Dash. The only thing we can hope is that these blind investors sooner or later will realize this.

Answer: is missing invest in MARKETING .

That's it !

thank you so much on every word you wrote

& that's what i just wanted to hear

you are an honest man

thanks again Diego24


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November 03, 2016, 06:55:21 PM
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Lol. Expect yourself to some private emails in which you are going to get insulted in several languages.

I totally agree with your complaints. I complaint about the same thing 2 weeks ago (which is why I know you are going to get hammered by some members  Grin). I bought NAV at 2k so I am not in loss but I still feel your pain. I don't know what people want to achieve by these overly optimistic predictions. As I said before, they only lead to newbie investors getting burned. These happy talks will not pump the coin. They will only burn newbies. Experienced people with a lot of money to really influence NAV price are not gonna listen to some few happy comments. Anyway ... my advice to you ... put these happy predictors on your ignore list, also the ones that attack you for rightfully having complained about it. Don't start a fight because it is not good for you (you will get banned over the long run) and for the thread.

But nevertheless, despite the price drop, I still think NAV is hugely undervalued at this moment. Today there was this article that I posted here in which they basically admit that anon coins based on mixing like Monero and Dash are not providing the anonimity they claim and investigators have been able to unmix transactions.  So from that point of view NAV currently is the only true anonymous coin out there. So don't lose hope. The market just didn't discover it yet. It looks like the market is dumber than I thought. The market prefers to buy unproven Zcash at 1000 $. And the funny part is that today it was released Zcash had a bug  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy. NAV should have a bigger market cap than Monero and Dash. The only thing we can hope is that these blind investors sooner or later will realize this.

That's it !

thank you so much on every word you wrote

& that's what i just wanted to hear

you are an honest man

thanks again Diego24




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November 03, 2016, 08:44:57 PM
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There has been some push to get NAV known but I belive they have correctly waited until they can PROVE anontech works that it's live and in use. instead of ovehyping before it's real.

Since Navtech has been out 2 entire days most of which the dev team has been catching up on sleep, Marketing is just getting started.

So Spread the word, bring it up where it makes sense in other forums. Coinpay has way to vote using BTC to have NAV added to their payment system

https://www.coinpayments.net/vote

I bought some votes so here is something all of us can do.

Join bitsquare forums get the software and buy and sell some NAV on it,mention in the forums NAV is why you are there.

Make anon donation to the nave faucet http://navcoin.org/faucet as a demo to others.

it needs funds it run dry pretty fast so somebody is using it. Make a youtube of the demo

First of all congratulations to the DEV the effort and great design. But here's a constructive criticism. If the NAV is a major currency that has huge edge over the others because it has not raised its value to the level it deserves? Answer: is missing invest in MARKETING. If you have a great product and investors have not enchergaram that's missing. No use getting killing projects and no one exergar it. I think it's frustrating to see someone pórpios DEV dump to burn NAV. Everything is balance see more affection NAV marketing to make 10% of ZEC marketing NAV would already be in another level of value.

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November 03, 2016, 09:23:10 PM
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The Project is right on Track

Back in 2014 I bought at 2000 Sat when BTC was over  $1000 usd. Both NAV crashed to 100 Sat and BTC went to $176 USD

Im in the mood  to talk

Also im here every day Up Down
Always Positive. Even when the thread is silent im here.

Encouraging the NAV Coin Community and Team

Waiting for Project to reach Decentralization

I  will write something inspirational that gives you hope sometime today
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November 03, 2016, 09:36:32 PM
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The Project is right on Track

Back in 2014 I bought at 2000 Sat when BTC was over  $1000 usd. Both NAV crashed to 100 Sat and BTC went to $176 USD

Im in the mood  to talk

Also im here every day Up Down
Always Positive. Even when the thread is silent im here.

Encouraging the NAV Coin Community and Team

Waiting for Project to reach Decentralization

I  will write something inspirational that gives you hope sometime today

"Even when the thread is silent im here."
Touching....
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Thanks for your outstanding support over the years @ivankoh
oh wow BTC is down - well that sucks
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November 03, 2016, 10:52:15 PM
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Thanks for your outstanding support over the years @ivankoh
oh wow BTC is down - well that sucks

Do you have Satoshi Nakamoto's email? I am going to complain about this price drop! (It seems to be that it's the norm nowadays in the crypto world!)  Undecided

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November 04, 2016, 01:03:26 AM
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Hi Nav Coiners,

We've been added to the public coin vote for coinpayments.net. Coin Payments is very similar to Bit Pay, but it allows payments in over 50 alt-coins. If we get added to this platform, Nav Coin will be instantly integrated into over 75000 online stores as a payment option. If you have any spare BTC and would like to see NAV merchant tools, please cast your votes. If we get to 1000 Votes we get automatically added.

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Integrated payment gateway for cryptocurrencies such as Bitcoin and Litecoin. Over 75,500 vendors across 182 different countries

https://www.coinpayments.net/vote


I have personally donated 366 votes (0.366 BTC). If you have any dust lying around, please buy us some more votes! They actually give the raised funds to charity and their faucet, so its also a good cause.

Cheers,
Craig.

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November 04, 2016, 03:49:59 AM
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I just casted 600 votes that should give you over 1000 votes. good luck.

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November 04, 2016, 05:21:06 AM
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I just casted 600 votes that should give you over 1000 votes. good luck.

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November 04, 2016, 05:27:06 AM
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I just casted 600 votes that should give you over 1000 votes. good luck.

Awesome, thank you very much for doing that! I will contact these guys right now and get the ball rolling.

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November 04, 2016, 06:05:51 AM
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Hi Nav Coiners,

We've been added to the public coin vote for coinpayments.net. Coin Payments is very similar to Bit Pay, but it allows payments in over 50 alt-coins. If we get added to this platform, Nav Coin will be instantly integrated into over 75000 online stores as a payment option. If you have any spare BTC and would like to see NAV merchant tools, please cast your votes. If we get to 1000 Votes we get automatically added.

Quote from: Nav Coin

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Integrated payment gateway for cryptocurrencies such as Bitcoin and Litecoin. Over 75,500 vendors across 182 different countries

https://www.coinpayments.net/vote


I have personally donated 366 votes (0.366 BTC). If you have any dust lying around, please buy us some more votes! They actually give the raised funds to charity and their faucet, so its also a good cause.

Cheers,
Craig.

great job man -Nav community are best - i donate 10 for now - used tip coin doge (my lovely doge )))
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November 04, 2016, 08:30:08 AM
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Hopefully this changes your mindset on the Benefits of a evolving Crypto Landscape and why NAVCoin does NOT need to go anywhere near the Darkweb but is a evolution in Digital Money
Maybe a late reply but I was thinking about it and this is my view. NAV is an anonymous coin. That is what is actually known for in the outside world. The fact that NAV has faster transactions than Bitcoin and its other advantages are not really seen as NAVs main features by the outside world. And I guess other coins out there also have faster transactions than Bitcoin. So summarized, NAVs strength is anonimity. Yes, anonimity is nice sometimes. But lets be honest here ... do you really care government knows you bought 2 bananas, 1 apple and an icecream in your local store ? Do you really care if government knows you ordered new pants in an online store ? In case of online stores ... does it really matter if Bitcoin takes 30 minutes to arrive if the delivery of the pants takes 2-5 days (the 30 minutes are actually irrelevant as your order is known immediately when you push PURCHASE button) ? I don't think that most people would have problems with that.

What is the main advantage of an anonymous coin ? To hide what you bought and from who. When are people interested in this: tax avoidance and black markets. The only exception I know is maybe people wanting to hide they bought gold/silver or if they maybe paid for sexual services.

I am not saying that I don't value privacy of my purchases, even if I buy pineapples and yoghurt. But I doubt many people really care a lot about that. Merchants will probably prefer it to hide they sold something so they don't need to pay taxes on it. I think that if you really believe that NAV will mainly be used for honest activities than I think you are not being realistic. Why would I need any other crypto other than Bitcoin to buy groceries ? People are using Bitcoin right now to buy coffee in a cafe despite Bitcoins transaction taking 30 minutes. If I read your reply I have the feeling you want to compete against Bitcoin and win the fight. But I don't think that is the right path to go. Overtaking Bitcoin is almost impossible.

I am not claiming I am right and I am always open to change my mind about this. But then I need strong arguments which at this moment I didn't come up with one yet.
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November 04, 2016, 08:52:32 AM
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Sorry, but fast transactions are very important for usage! NAV is actually one of the fastest coins.
Why wants to go to starbucks and pay a coffee to go and wait 30 minutes until the payment is done? I don't follow your logic here mate.

And to the shops using anonymity. What is the difference between getting anon and normal on the shops side? Nothing. You have to tax your income, wether it came anon or not. It is an advantage for the buyer, that noone can track where and what you buy. Like today when you pay with credit card and are tracked completly. What when where....

Please vote at coinpayments for nav! Let's get into real world usage!

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November 04, 2016, 09:30:55 AM
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I would leave NAV Coin if community or Devs focus the interest in Darkmarkets. It's not the view of the team at all.

I would't like to see my name linked to a network of pedophiles, drug dealers or arm dealers...Actually Darknet looks much like the 1% that rules the world.

Nobody is talking about what Anon is bringing to table which is a DECENTRALISED PRIVATE AND SECURE system to do monetary transactions.

One of the main features of NAV Coin is the time between transactions and that's VERY VERY IMPORTANT in a cryptocurrency.

I think that instead of looking for rapid solutions into making a fast $ community should focus in helping DEV team in promoting it.

I see many complains but few ideas.

I can't believe that NAV community is talentless and only cares about a fast profit.

Come on guys bring your talents.

You do video? well... Make videos of NAV (I have seen some videos from users that help) You do Photoshop? Well..There's loads of info about NAV in the website and some infrographics that Pakage made as a guide.

As I say before... More focus in help rather than complain.


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November 04, 2016, 09:50:29 AM
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Why wants to go to starbucks and pay a coffee to go and wait 30 minutes until the payment is done? I don't follow your logic here mate.
https://coffee.foldapp.com/

And to the shops using anonymity. What is the difference between getting anon and normal on the shops side? Nothing.
Of course there is a difference. You can hide that you sold something. That's the only reason why anonymous coins are use in the dark markets. And if you can hide that you sold something, then of course you will not pay tax on it.
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Why wants to go to starbucks and pay a coffee to go and wait 30 minutes until the payment is done? I don't follow your logic here mate.
https://coffee.foldapp.com/

And to the shops using anonymity. What is the difference between getting anon and normal on the shops side? Nothing.
Of course there is a difference. You can hide that you sold something. That's the only reason why anonymous coins are use in the dark markets. And if you can hide that you sold something, then of course you will not pay tax on it.

But it does not matter if your wallet receives over anon or not. Your wallet received. so as a show owner you can not hide anything. And btw. I donÄt think any shop in these markets are paying taxes. lol I want to see the face of the financial office, when you tell them you sold 1kg of pot and a few weapons last month ;-)
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Why wants to go to starbucks and pay a coffee to go and wait 30 minutes until the payment is done? I don't follow your logic here mate.
https://coffee.foldapp.com/

And to the shops using anonymity. What is the difference between getting anon and normal on the shops side? Nothing.
Of course there is a difference. You can hide that you sold something. That's the only reason why anonymous coins are use in the dark markets. And if you can hide that you sold something, then of course you will not pay tax on it.

But it does not matter if your wallet receives over anon or not. Your wallet received. so as a show owner you can not hide anything. And btw. I donÄt think any shop in these markets are paying taxes. lol I want to see the face of the financial office, when you tell them you sold 1kg of pot and a few weapons last month ;-)
Lol. I am not saying the shop owner sells pot or weapons. I am just saying if criminals sell guns on dark markets using anon coins, investigators can't track them down. They must have a wallet too, right ? So by using the same mechanism I assume a shop owner can hide what he sold. He can use a second nonregistered wallet, I guess. And he doesn't need to sell online. Just like when you pay someone in cash so you can avoid paying 21 % VAT for example, I guess you can do something like that with anon coins too and a cellphone. I don't know. I am not an expert on this. But if criminals can hide it, why can't a shop owner hide it ?
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Why wants to go to starbucks and pay a coffee to go and wait 30 minutes until the payment is done? I don't follow your logic here mate.
https://coffee.foldapp.com/

And to the shops using anonymity. What is the difference between getting anon and normal on the shops side? Nothing.
Of course there is a difference. You can hide that you sold something. That's the only reason why anonymous coins are use in the dark markets. And if you can hide that you sold something, then of course you will not pay tax on it.

But it does not matter if your wallet receives over anon or not. Your wallet received. so as a show owner you can not hide anything. And btw. I donÄt think any shop in these markets are paying taxes. lol I want to see the face of the financial office, when you tell them you sold 1kg of pot and a few weapons last month ;-)
Lol. I am not saying the shop owner sells pot or weapons. I am just saying if criminals sell guns on dark markets using anon coins, investigators can't track them down. They must have a wallet too, right ? So by using the same mechanism I assume a shop owner can hide what he sold. He can use a second nonregistered wallet, I guess. And he doesn't need to sell online. Just like when you pay someone in cash so you can avoid paying 21 % VAT for example, I guess you can do something like that with anon coins too and a cellphone. I don't know. I am not an expert on this. But if criminals can hide it, why can't a shop owner hide it ?

When you say that, you can also say that small diners don't registrate the money by putting it into the own pocket and not into the system. There is always a way, yes. but this is not the intention of using coins when buying : ) the intention is to pay not traceable to the authorities , worldwide!
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November 04, 2016, 10:54:41 AM
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When you say that, you can also say that small diners don't registrate the money by putting it into the own pocket and not into the system. There is always a way, yes. but this is not the intention of using coins when buying : ) the intention is to pay not traceable to the authorities , worldwide!
I don't see it as a bad thing, to be honest. I used to see it as a bad thing, until my father and uncle told me before I was born people didn't need to pay 21 % VAT on products. It is just an invention of our corrupt politicians to steal more wealth from the people and to send it straight to the elites. And they try to brainwash us with the excuse: you need to pay a lot of taxes for our roads, health care, social security, ... . In the meanwhile this is what they are doing with our money:

http://www.europereloaded.com/half-barroso-ii-commissioners-still-receive-allowance/

Karel De Gucht is receiving 125.000 euro because he left the commission 2 years ago. Today he gave as excuse that this is very good because it avoids politicians that leave to work immediately in big companies and as such it avoids a conflict in interests ... haha, such a lie. He left and immediately started to work for Arcelor Mittal receiving 144.000 euro a year on top of his 125.000 euro from  leaving the commision. Not only is this a scam but the fact that he immediately got a job in a big company receiving such a huge amount of money reveals that when he was in the commission he was serving  Arcelor Mittal's interests.

But ok ... this is just a little bit offtopic to explain why I am not completely against some merchants trying to avoid to pay some taxes. Especially given that I live in the country (Belgium) with one of the highest taxes in the world.
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