shahim
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October 28, 2014, 07:46:55 PM |
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If monero is truly anonymous could you please show some proof.
Main Problem of monero is the complete missing GUI Client. Have you ever tried setting up a client and sent a monero? It a pain in the ass
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fuze0000
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October 28, 2014, 08:04:15 PM |
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So you're telling me Monero is truly anonymous but isn't worth utilizing because it is a pain in the ass?
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GREEDYJOHN
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October 28, 2014, 08:49:42 PM |
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I like the debate here.
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MiningMinion
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October 28, 2014, 09:03:30 PM |
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Is new wallet releasing soon?
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bspus
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October 28, 2014, 09:26:23 PM |
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If monero is truly anonymous could you please show some proof.
What I am saying is that this was my impression. Monero was often mentioned in anon talks, saying how it was truly anonymous as opposed to "almost but not quite" darkcoin. Admitedly I have not done any research but yours is the first post I see claiming that monero isn't truly anonymous. Is that something you assume or something you know? So you're telling me Monero is truly anonymous but isn't worth utilizing because it is a pain in the ass?
Regardless of anon quality, monero is a royal pain to use and I have little doubt that unless this is fixed, it will never go mainstream. And a currency that doesn't go mainstream is ultimately doomed to fail. Why they still have no official and/or fully working GUI is beyond me I am not saying I did not succeed in setting it up because I did, but I really had no choice since I have to be ready to accept a lot of it coming from mintpal. If they ever get their act together that is. I really hope they don't sink before they give me my money.
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spatula
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October 28, 2014, 09:44:55 PM |
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I hold NAV, Darkcoin, and Monero and keep up to date on all of them.
As already pointed out, monero is hard to use (no gui and large blockchain) and has slow transaction times. It seems to be VERY anonymous at this point, but my fear (and many others) is that quantum computing that could come out in the next decade (to powerful 3 letter organizations) could easily break the encryption and reveal ALL previous transactions as they are still in the blockchain.
Darkcoin is confused with coinjoin mixing a lot because that's what it is originally based on, but in reality has FAR surpassed its early implementations and is now much more complex. It has even been peer reviewed by professional cryptographers. This form of anonymous transactions provides security against quantum computing in the future.
The NAV whitepaper seems to include the best of both worlds, with off-chain transactions and encryption. Obviously this hasn't been implemented yet, but if the Dev can deliver, it will really be something special. From an investment standpoint, this could be the biggest payoff if it works.
There is no need to put down other top level anon coins, we should look to them to see what they are doing right, and wrong so that NAV can learn from it.
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paycum
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October 28, 2014, 09:58:34 PM |
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wow nice update, great to see even more improvements then i expected.
i will download it right away and will do some testing. will post my results tomorrow.
keep up the good work!!
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pakage
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October 28, 2014, 10:00:31 PM |
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As mentioned, this is a Beta Client. Sometimes there are bugs which only become apparent when testing in real situations and we only want to include top quality code in the main wallet. Please let us know if you find any bugs or feel there are features lacking and we will look at addressing these when we integrate these features into the next main wallet release. Other things to note are that usernames are now unique on the server. If you try join with the same username as someone else, it will kick you from the server and ask you to choose another name. There are also some restrictions on the characters allowed in usernames. Also, "Chat" and "Server" are reserved names for the system. Currently known bugs which we've found from our testing: - Scroll bar is ugly, needs better styling.
- "User has left chat" message, causing new tab to open up if other user has already closed it.
- links not opening browser in Private Message window, but working in main Chat window.
- encryption to be added for Private Messages for better privacy
Please help us polish this feature before release to the main wallet by testing and helping us identify any issues. When submitting feedback, please remember to include a good description of the issue as well as the steps required to reproduce the bug. Restlessly yours, Pakage.
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pakage
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October 28, 2014, 10:23:31 PM |
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PS. I will keep my user logged into the chat as much as possible. Feel free to send me a message as part of your testing.
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Ginger Ninja
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They walk among us...
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October 28, 2014, 10:30:44 PM |
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PS. I will keep my user logged into the chat as much as possible. Feel free to send me a message as part of your testing.
Great work fella!
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SUM2dev (OP)
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October 28, 2014, 10:56:02 PM |
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As mentioned, this is a Beta Client. Sometimes there are bugs which only become apparent when testing in real situations and we only want to include top quality code in the main wallet. Please let us know if you find any bugs or feel there are features lacking and we will look at addressing these when we integrate these features into the next main wallet release. Other things to note are that usernames are now unique on the server. If you try join with the same username as someone else, it will kick you from the server and ask you to choose another name. There are also some restrictions on the characters allowed in usernames. Also, "Chat" and "Server" are reserved names for the system. Currently known bugs which we've found from our testing: - Scroll bar is ugly, needs better styling.
- "User has left chat" message, causing new tab to open up if other user has already closed it.
- links not opening browser in Private Message window, but working in main Chat window.
- encryption to be added for Private Messages for better privacy
Please help us polish this feature before release to the main wallet by testing and helping us identify any issues. When submitting feedback, please remember to include a good description of the issue as well as the steps required to reproduce the bug. Restlessly yours, Pakage. We would also like to thank You, pakage for all Your great work and dedication You're showing after joining to Navajo Coin Development Team. While doing this we also would like to remind Community that You can show Your gratitude for pakage's efforts by sending him donation:
PAKAGE: Donate NAV: sa17i3piENaPDpfVkAM4sXBV6va3iHZC1u Donate BTC: 1PtvmBGQSuTzfgt4dBaYUz18jg4yzg5Bzu
We think that he really deserves this for all the great work he's doing. Thank You, we really appreciate Your support! Cheers
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hashforce101
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October 28, 2014, 11:00:23 PM Last edit: October 28, 2014, 11:21:14 PM by hashforce101 |
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I'm so glad today , I invested in the right team and the right coin . Everyone has really stepped up there game face and it really shows. Private Chat is here to stay and soon it will be ENCRYPTED. I am so dam happy! We are the NavajoCoin Community Foundation. We are united and strong. We are going 2 DA Stars. ~hashforce101~ regarding price talks . If NavajoCoin achieves ODA we will break new records. Shout out to ~soopy~ you are going hard and strong and we know it . You have the strongest community behind you mate!
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GREEDYJOHN
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October 28, 2014, 11:03:50 PM |
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"PRIVATE MESSAGES" IS WORKING.
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SUM2dev (OP)
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October 28, 2014, 11:10:10 PM |
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"PRIVATE MESSAGES" IS WORKING.
Thank You for feedback mate! Be sure to check out all the other features too Cheers
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paycum
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October 28, 2014, 11:10:47 PM |
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@package i will donate you some nav tomorrow! thx for the great job
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hashforce101
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October 28, 2014, 11:14:30 PM Last edit: October 29, 2014, 12:39:05 AM by hashforce101 |
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@package i will donate you some nav tomorrow! thx for the great job
me 2 next wednesday! ~hashforce101~
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pakage
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October 29, 2014, 12:02:25 AM |
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Thank you very much guys. Between the website, wallet updates and helping Soopy build the Anon network, this is a pretty time intensive project. Any donations are always appreciated as this is not paid work for me.
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GREEDYJOHN
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October 29, 2014, 12:23:48 AM |
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Thank you very much guys. Between the website, wallet updates and helping Soopy build the Anon network, this is a pretty time intensive project. Any donations are always appreciated as this is not paid work for me. You will be rewarded when your NAV COINS skyrocket in price.
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CryptoJohn
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Well, That's Crypto :-\
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October 29, 2014, 01:54:41 AM |
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Fking Soopy & Pakage delivering No surprise really.... Nice work Navajo team!
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