The following, shows Brandon/Ragnar (whatever identity he wishes to portray) Ask me time and again to get Bart to do something "PLEASE TALK TO BART"
I helped Brandon as much as i possibly could to be get the sale completed and players paid !!!
Now in response, he lashes out at me. And now replies to my request for funds with a cheesy email telling me that he thinks 5 of the 7.8 Bitcoin I kept on SP is a good compromise !! BS!!!
I believe it was done to punish me for giving Bart some piece of information Brandon shared with me !!!
[5/22/2014 3:12:43 PM] plo8 monster: Brandon are you available for a couple minutes??
[5/22/2014 3:13:49 PM] plo8 monster: [Thursday, May 22, 2014 3:08 PM] plo8 monster:
<<< So is the sale complete, has Bart gotten you all neccessary transfers of control ?? I still need access to my funds... I am now current on my personal bills, but still almost 2k short of head stone and a 2yr upkeep contract.... These guys have been very patient with me getting them paid.. but will not deliver head stone until reciept of $1978 ... I need 4 btc urgently... I do have a w/d in place on the site, but i do not know how you plan to proceed... Im not trying to be pushy in any way, I am trying to just let this all fall into place.. But my Btc is a large part of why Bart sold SP... I really owuldnt bother you if it were not important.... Can ya please let me know your plans to get me paid..? Is there anything i can do to help? Just let me know...
[5/22/2014 3:39:37 PM] Brandon Casten: Hey Randy, I am tied up at the moment. I cannot release any funds until Bart hands over all of the property of SP. At this point, we haven't heard back from him other than that he couldn't access one of the emails. The sooner Bart gives us what we need the sooner you can get paid, so if you want to talk to Bart, that would make things quicker
[5/22/2014 3:40:38 PM] plo8 monster: I will do... he gave me the impression it was complete...sorry to bother ya, i will hit bart up asap a light a fire under his feet LOL
[5/22/2014 3:41:05 PM] Brandon Casten: Haha. Sounds good. As soon as he gets us everything we will be all set
[5/22/2014 3:41:42 PM] plo8 monster: well he knows what shape i am in.... im sure he will hurry up and get it done
[5/22/2014 3:44:20 PM] Brandon Casten: Sounds good
[6/2/2014 8:29:03 PM] Brandon Casten: I just spoke to him and we are all set. Thank you, Randy! BTW, can you get after Bart, he isn't getting back to me with important info
[6/2/2014 8:29:40 PM] plo8 monster: ok i will .... i will speak to him sometime today
[6/2/2014 8:29:47 PM] Brandon Casten: Thank you!
[7/1/2014 3:02:08 PM] plo8 monster: Hey Brandon, what is the status of players funds on SP. I need to know apporximatley when you wil pay the balance of my account on SP off... I have waited very patiently, it is now July and you have still have my bitcoin.. whats up with that Brandon??? Can you tell me when you intend to honor the accounts on SP. This seems like a very very long time to pay off players accounts...
[7/2/2014 9:45:17 AM] Brandon Casten: Bart truly fucked up the code and lost a couple very important files. We are unable to relaunch SP and are rolling over the accounts onto BurnTurn, which will be in beta in about a month. I know this has taken long but we can't launch a site without some of the key functions such as proper withdrawal code
[7/9/2014 6:43:05 AM] Brandon Casten: You betrayed my trust by letting Bart know an exact, private quote that I sent you. He is now trying to sue me. You are the only person who has gotten an advance on his BTC from SP and this is the way you treat me? I am glad that we are not in business together.
[7/9/2014 10:41:51 AM | Edited 10:42:50 AM] plo8 monster: BRANDON !!! Wow, your lashing out at me? Dude, i have tried to be helpful to you.. I dont know what the hell your talking about a quote from Bart?? Man I rarely speak to Bart, because he always has way to much drama for me.. I think ya both have been somewhat childish and immature, and the players who have bitcoin on the site suffer!!! You squable over semantics while the players are still not paid !! I really dont know your plans, but if you let anger at Bart dictate your behaviour, well than your no better than him... Goodluck in whatever direction you take. If you think I have betrayed you or even think that i am the sort of person who would do you wrong, then i rekon i am glad we are not in business together also.. AS for an advance, you cant advance me what is mine to begin with.. Jesus Brandon where is your head..LOL I have seen Bart piss people off before, but your hem hawing around and not getting players paid is just poor business, and poor Karma. Are you under contract to pay the players off? If you do right by the players Brandon..I will stand up for you...Publicly!! ....IF you keep jack assing around with Bart blaming him and not getting anything done. I will not be willing to help in any way. I am pretty disgusted with the BOTH of you ..and YES I AM sending Bart a copy of this also !!!! ...
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I may have no recourse to get my payment in full from you Brandon Casten, BUT YOU can bet your last Bitcoin
I will not go away. So you make small payments to a few players, for image, but the large accounts ..you think you can compromise.. What a crock of crap !!
**************************** PLAYERS BEWARE, !!!!
The following is the email correspondence, after sending request per the post in this thread provided by Brandon Casten:
Randy,
I am the one who is charged with analyzing the data and making decisions
on refunds. For people with set balances (Bart's spreadsheet matched
the one that we pulled from the SP database), we are refunding their
balances with no questions asked and have done so for 11 people to date,
including you.
For people with balances that we cannot verify, we are finding a
compromise. There has been one other person in your shoes, who claims
to have a pending deposit that was never paid, but we cannot verify. We
were able to come to a fair agreement with that person even though we
were note bound to pay him by the contract with Bart. We'd like to
believe everyone is telling the truth, but we could open the doors to a
ton of people claiming they have BTC that they didn't earn and we'd open
the door for scams. All decisions made to refund unverified balances
are made on a case by case basis.
At this point, your balance is about 3.8 BTC and this is verified by
both the database and Bart. We have already paid you 5 BTC and you were
the first person to get paid. I know you claim to have been owed a
total of 7.8 BTC, but we have no way of verifying that you actually
owned all of those BTC. For this reason, we feel like paying you 5 BTC
is a pretty fair compromise.
Best,
{{{{************************** IN THE EMAIL THEY SENT .... I see them say " For people with set balances (Bart's spreadsheet matched
the one that we pulled from the SP database)," :: " we are refunding their
balances with no questions"" THAT IS ... in beginning of email, then at end of email they say ...." At this point, your balance is about 3.8 BTC and this is verified by
both the database and Bart. " and the withdraw in question has been validated by Brandon a month ago ,,, see the following skype chat***************}}}}}}}.
.I would think getting players paid promptly would be priiority 1.... I dont know ....guesse i shouldnt be minding oyur business... I just want you guys to get this chapter closed so we can all move forward...
[6/13/2014 8:13:20 AM] Brandon Casten: We found your 4 BTC withdrawal last night. Please be patient, we are trying to deal with a ton of data here.
[6/13/2014 8:56:22 PM] plo8 monster: ty for letting me know.... that eases my mind. T
BOTTOM LINE IS HE KNEW ABOUT THE PENDING WITHDRAW, BUT IS MAD AT ME AND DENYING ME PAYMENT IF FULL !!!
And my reply, which is still unanswered: ( my reply is the following )
Not sure why ya would send this email.
Brandon Casten is aware of the withdraw and the 2.8 btc balance on the site. He has been a gentleman about everything right up until Bart Van Oort pulled his BS. Dont blame him for being angry, but it is misdirected at me.
I expect Brandon to keep his word as agreed and pay me the balance of my funds. That balance is 2.8 btc
[6/13/2014 8:13:20 AM] Brandon Casten: We found your 4 BTC withdrawal last night. Please be patient, we are trying to deal with a ton of data here.
I had 7.8 btc on site //// and a 4 btc withdraw pending (never processed) Brandon is aware of this /// Brandon graciously sent me 5 btc of my balance to help with some funeral expenses (for that i am so very grateful)... The 5 he sent means the balance is 2.8 Btc... He agreed to send upon opening the site.
You will show a balance of 3,8 .. beacause of the 7.8btc balance minus the pending 4 btc withdraw ..that is in question!!
I did offer a compromise ...send me 2 btc and leave .8 on site to give it a test drive and good Public Review !! as I promised I would all along.....
Please Ragnar, discuss this with Brandon..
Thank you for your prompt reply !!!
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THE PENDING WITHDRAW (WAS VALIDATED BY BRANDON!!)
This is the deal, Brandon knew there was a 4 btc pending withdraw of the 7.8 bitcoin i held in SP
He sent me 5 Btc to help with a funeral expense (he was in negotiations with me to help him restore the site, so he sent 5)
I accepted A better offer from a major online poker site. And i then went to the back burner...although i continued to try and help the sale complete and players paid!!!
The 3.8 btc they show currently on my account verified by data base and Bart ..is the result of 7.8 bitcoin minus 4 btc with draw that never was processed, showing 4(pending w/d) + 3.8
Brandon paid 5 of the 7.8 btc...they owe me 2.8...
BEWARE PLAYERS !!! they tell me they are negotiating with people who had "who claims
to have a pending deposit that was never paid, but we cannot verify"
they meant TO SAY pending WITHDRAW that was never paid...
They are speaking of a pending withdraw //// deposit is a typo :
.. I just want you guys to get this chapter closed so we can all move forward...
[6/13/2014 8:13:20 AM] Brandon Casten: We found your 4 BTC withdrawal last night. Please be patient, we are trying to deal with a ton of data here.
[6/13/2014 8:56:22 PM] plo8 monster: ty for letting me know.... that eases my mind. Ty
Now that i am no longer of value to him, he decides not to honor his agreement !! plus he is pisses because i told Bart why he wasnt paying players yet!!!
HE has all the information to validate my account, and yet sends me a cheesy email telling me they feel partial payment is a good compromise because they cant validate, what Brandon clearly states he validated !!!
And they make statement they have compromised with another player.. So players beware !!! you owe them no compromise..
They can either keep their word in full, or be cheesy, Foolishly thinking the players dont communicate with one another !!
I have sacrificed enough, thru this all...I WILL NOT COMPROMISE !!! PAY ME IN FULL AS YOU AGREED. YOUR GAMBLE WITH KARMA IS A POOR INDICATOR OF WHERE YOU ARE GOING WITH YOUR NEW SITE!!
~~~plo8monster