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March 23, 2011, 02:28:05 AM
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Wow!  Great job, excellent video (I like fast), fully deserving of the bounty in my opinion.

And yeah, if it is OK with justmoon I think replacing my Ignite talk on the bitcoin.org homepage with the new video is a great idea.

How often do you get the chance to work on a potentially world-changing project?
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March 23, 2011, 02:38:45 AM
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here we go... another slashdotting reditting and digging coming up... I now know the reason for recent exchange rate jump.


It's just a coincidence. I do not think it is that fast to figure out how to deposit money into mtgox and start buying bitcoin within a day.(correct me if I am wrong)

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March 23, 2011, 02:42:28 AM
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It's just a coincidence. I do not think it is that fast to figure out how to deposit money into mtgox and start buying bitcoin within a day.(correct me if I am wrong)

Already-established traders are buying in anticipation of higher demand. If I had any USD to spare, I would be buying.

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March 23, 2011, 02:44:27 AM
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It's just a coincidence. I do not think it is that fast to figure out how to deposit money into mtgox and start buying bitcoin within a day.(correct me if I am wrong)

Already-established traders are buying in anticipation of higher demand. If I had any USD to spare, I would be buying.

That may be so. That may be not.

Anyway, it's the standard: "I think reason x cause y change in Bitcoin price!"

It's all ad hoc. It's correlation. That does not prove causation.

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March 23, 2011, 02:56:37 AM
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The market has a tendency to anticipate future value of traded instruments. It also has a tendency to react on new information. This video was just viewed by many established bitcoin players and it was viewed on some bitcoin meeting a few days ago I suppose. People privy to this information could pretty well make a rational decision to capitalise on it and buy some BTC while the going is good. I would not be surprised if some market participant crashed the market in advance to buy up more BTC's on the cheap with knowledge that this kind of quality video is coming up and it is inevitable that it will hit large traffic generating websites soon.

I certainly  had a few new largish contracts purchased very recently after two rather quiet weeks, for example. ... Time to order some more 5970's...



It's also true that you're just making a guess.

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March 23, 2011, 03:20:49 AM
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I am glad we finally get to empty the longest running bounty wallet in bitcoin history .

Unless anyone has any objections this will happen in the next few days.
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March 23, 2011, 03:26:37 AM
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I am glad we finally get to empty the longest running bounty wallet in bitcoin history .

Unless anyone has any objections this will happen in the next few days.

And we can spin it as big news too! More traffic, more people, and bigger the economy. I am also glad that the money will be used to fund further effort to advertise and promote bitcoin.

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March 23, 2011, 03:56:34 AM
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This is actually a pretty good video Smiley

Well done!


PS.  Am I the only one who thinks that this video could replace Gavin's speech video on bitcoin.org?

+1

Ideally if we were to add it to the bitcoin.org home page, it would be nice to keep it neutral and edit the last part of the video to mention bitcoin.org instead of the author's site.

Great video though! Well done!
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March 23, 2011, 04:10:25 AM
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Ideally if we were to add it to the bitcoin.org home page, it would be nice to keep it neutral and edit the last part of the video to mention bitcoin.org instead of the author's site.

Great video though! Well done!

The author's site promote bitcoin though.

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March 23, 2011, 04:30:27 AM
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Ideally if we were to add it to the bitcoin.org home page, it would be nice to keep it neutral and edit the last part of the video to mention bitcoin.org instead of the author's site.

This video is the product of their work.  I won't blame them for taking credit for it and putting their own website link at the end.

So I don't think it is necessary to edit the video.  However, a small textual note could be added above the video, saying that this video was not done by members of the bitcoin.org community.
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March 23, 2011, 04:31:54 AM
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Ideally if we were to add it to the bitcoin.org home page, it would be nice to keep it neutral and edit the last part of the video to mention bitcoin.org instead of the author's site.

This video is the product of their work.  I won't blame them for taking credit for it and putting their own website link at the end.

So I don't think it is necessary to edit the video.  However, a small textual note could be added above the video, saying that this video was not done by members of the bitcoin.org community.


It is done by members of the bitcoin community.

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March 23, 2011, 05:07:27 AM
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It is done by members of the bitcoin community.

Members of the bitcoin community? sure.  Members of the bitcoin.org community?  Not so sure.

Otherwise they would have mentionned bitcoin.org at the end of their video.

But again:  it's ok if they mention their own website.  It is their work after all.  But if we want to use this video, it worths warning the viewer.
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March 23, 2011, 05:09:02 AM
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Members of the bitcoin community? sure.  Members of the bitcoin.org community?  Not so sure.

Otherwise they would have mentionned bitcoin.org at the end of their video.

But again:  it's ok if they mention their own website.  It is their work after all.  But if we want to use this video, it worths warning the viewer.


What's the difference between bitcoin.org community and bitcoin community?

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March 23, 2011, 05:13:39 AM
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What's the difference between bitcoin.org community and bitcoin community?

They just are not the same people.

I just think that if, on bitcoin.org, we use a video that redirects to weusebitcoin.com, then the visitor can be confused, and thus we should give some eplanation.

PS.  We could place the video with an introduction such as:

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Here is a short indroduction video made by our fellows on weusebitcoin.com:
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March 23, 2011, 05:18:22 AM
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There is no clear call to action on the front page of weusecoins.com.

"Ok, I like this bitcoin idea. How do I get started?"

I think there should be BIG CLEAR TEXT that said "Great! How do I get started?" that replace the Features below.

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March 23, 2011, 09:02:48 AM
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Addressing a few points people have raised:

Tempo. What hazek said is exactly what the professionals were saying as well. No way you can "explain" Bitcoin to a lay person without a lot of time and repetition. The video could be much slower and no more clearer. But that's fine, people can rewatch it, go to the site, go to the wiki, watch other videos, etc. All this video needs to do is pique interest and convincingly state that Bitcoin really is different and worth looking into. Future videos would put much more emphasis on actually explaining, so they'd likely be much longer, much slower and less visually dense.

(I actually started out envisioning this as a ~4 minute video, but every single one of the marketing and film people I talked to, including the designers recommended this tempo. There is a reason advertising is always a bit faster, louder, etc. than is necessarily comfortable - it's because that's what works.)

Link. The video links to weusecoins.com because we wanted a site that specifically picks people up where the video left off. It'll also be a place for us to post future videos. As for the bitcoin.org front page - if we win the bounty and the interest is large enough we can get the last sentence re-recorded and do a version saying bitcoin.org. Also note: Due to the license anybody can go to Chris Rice and have him record that sentence and create a version of the video with whatever link they like. (I'd ask that the weusecoins.com should still be in the small print to give us a little credit.)

Website. Some people have already made suggestions for weusecoins.com. I'm reading those intently and will implement them as soon as possible. Thanks, guys!

Everyone who has sent PMs: I'm working through those right now, stay tuned and thanks for the interest.

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March 23, 2011, 09:27:50 AM
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Just watched the video. Really cool! Smiley

I don't know if it has already been slow down, but I've managed to understand everything. The subtitles might have helped. I'm not a native English speaker either.
Maybe it's a good idea to make it fast since people think twice before starting to watch long videos.

Good job.

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March 23, 2011, 09:30:37 AM
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By the way, provide us the synchronized subtitles so we can translate it to other languages. Wink

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March 23, 2011, 11:02:54 AM
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By the way, provide us the synchronized subtitles so we can translate it to other languages. Wink

Here you go: http://rapidshare.com/files/453964245/What_is_Bitcoin.srt  Smiley

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March 23, 2011, 11:35:29 AM
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Here is my french version:

http://s0.barwen.ch/~grondilu/what_is_bitcoin-fr.srt
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