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Introducing: ShadowSend Hey guys, I am pleased to announce that we have successfully implemented Anonymous Stealth Addresses into our upcoming wallet release. The stealth system was first described by Peter Todd for use with Bitcoin but to our knowledge, we have developed the first open source C++ implementation of Anonymous Stealth Addresses using OpenSSL. A version of stealth addresses has been implemented by SX and DarkWallet, but our implementation has been developed completely independent of either project. We have developed Dual-Key Stealth Addresses, which allow transactions to be received even while the wallet is closed, and for security, the coins will not be spendable until the wallet is unlocked. Our stealth solution has been developed for ShadowCoin but we believe that our implementation is the best currently available and will be used for bitcoin in the near future. This week we will be releasing ShadowSend, a capable, efficient and decentralized anonymous wallet solution that does not rely on coinjoin or any centralized node structure. This wallet will allow transactions to remain anonymous while the stealth address system is used. ShadowSend's stealth addresses will soon be layered with zk-snarks to further increase security and privacy of the anonymous solution, this will be the first system of its kind available in bitcoin or altcoins. Stay tuned for more information in the days to follow.
The white paper for stealth addresses has existed since January, for more information on the significance of stealth addresses, please check the links listed below. Bitcoin Stealth WP:http://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/mailman/message/31813471/Articles on Stealth Addresses:http://www.coindesk.com/stealth-addresses-secret-bitcoin-privacy/http://sx.dyne.org/stealth.htmlhttp://ro.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1v7ayg/revolution_in_bitcoin_privacy_stealth_addresses/https://wiki.unsystem.net/en/index.php/DarkWallet/Stealth “This just makes it more convenient for regular users to do the right thing and maintain their own privacies. This is about making bitcoin privacy easier for normal people.” - Peter Todd “So far, bitcoin users had had to pick between simplicity and privacy, stealth addresses let us have our cake and eat it.” - Mike Hearn SX is always able to send when offline and there are already tons of coin with Stealthaddresses: Vertcoin, Execoin, Bitshares, Monero, Boolberry, Bytecoin, Ducknote, Moneta Verde... Fuck who knows, tons of them, fuckface. So go scam somewhere else. Man your users are so dumb, they cant even read peters writeup and see through your bullshit. |
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August 02, 2014, 08:17:14 PM |
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Introducing: ShadowSend Hey guys, I am pleased to announce that we have successfully implemented Anonymous Stealth Addresses into our upcoming wallet release. The stealth system was first described by Peter Todd for use with Bitcoin but to our knowledge, we have developed the first open source C++ implementation of Anonymous Stealth Addresses using OpenSSL. A version of stealth addresses has been implemented by SX and DarkWallet, but our implementation has been developed completely independent of either project. We have developed Dual-Key Stealth Addresses, which allow transactions to be received even while the wallet is closed, and for security, the coins will not be spendable until the wallet is unlocked. Our stealth solution has been developed for ShadowCoin but we believe that our implementation is the best currently available and will be used for bitcoin in the near future. This week we will be releasing ShadowSend, a capable, efficient and decentralized anonymous wallet solution that does not rely on coinjoin or any centralized node structure. This wallet will allow transactions to remain anonymous while the stealth address system is used. ShadowSend's stealth addresses will soon be layered with zk-snarks to further increase security and privacy of the anonymous solution, this will be the first system of its kind available in bitcoin or altcoins. Stay tuned for more information in the days to follow.
The white paper for stealth addresses has existed since January, for more information on the significance of stealth addresses, please check the links listed below. Bitcoin Stealth WP:http://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/mailman/message/31813471/Articles on Stealth Addresses:http://www.coindesk.com/stealth-addresses-secret-bitcoin-privacy/http://sx.dyne.org/stealth.htmlhttp://ro.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1v7ayg/revolution_in_bitcoin_privacy_stealth_addresses/https://wiki.unsystem.net/en/index.php/DarkWallet/Stealth “This just makes it more convenient for regular users to do the right thing and maintain their own privacies. This is about making bitcoin privacy easier for normal people.” - Peter Todd “So far, bitcoin users had had to pick between simplicity and privacy, stealth addresses let us have our cake and eat it.” - Mike Hearn Nice SCAM. SX is always able to send when offline and there are already tons of coin with Stealthaddresses: Vertcoin, Execoin, Bitshares, Monero, Boolberry, Bytecoin, Ducknote, Moneta Verde... Fuck who knows, tons of them, fuckface. So go scam somewhere else. Man your users are so dumb, they cant even read peters writeup and see through your bullshit. Reading comprehension is not your strong suit it I take it... "we have developed the first open source C++ implementation of Anonymous Stealth Addresses using OpenSSL." "A version of stealth addresses has been implemented by SX and DarkWallet, but our implementation has been developed completely independent of either project." FYI: The announcement clearly states there have been other implementations. ShadowDevs have improved on the idea...go back to your hole. |
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August 02, 2014, 08:24:27 PM |
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A version of stealth addresses has been implemented by SX and DarkWallet, but our implementation has been developed completely independent of either project. We have developed Dual-Key Stealth Addresses, which allow transactions to be received even while the wallet is closed, and for security, the coins will not be spendable until the wallet is unlocked. Or you might just stop telling shit like the above. Thats already how SX works. But of course you invented dual-key stealth addresses. So please explain us, how you use zk-snarks for your "shadowsend". In technical terms. |
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August 02, 2014, 08:27:49 PM |
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A version of stealth addresses has been implemented by SX and DarkWallet, but our implementation has been developed completely independent of either project. We have developed Dual-Key Stealth Addresses, which allow transactions to be received even while the wallet is closed, and for security, the coins will not be spendable until the wallet is unlocked. Or you might just stop telling shit like the above. Thats already how SX works. But of course you invented dual-key stealth addresses. So please explain us, how you use zk-snarks for your "shadowsend". In technical terms. I am not a developer here...but what exactly are you objecting to? It says clear as day "A version of stealth addresses has been implemented by SX and DarkWallet" Do your own research...fuck..let me help you. https://www.google.com"zerocash" |
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August 02, 2014, 08:31:23 PM |
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Introducing: ShadowSend Hey guys, I am pleased to announce that we have successfully implemented Anonymous Stealth Addresses into our upcoming wallet release. The stealth system was first described by Peter Todd for use with Bitcoin but to our knowledge, we have developed the first open source C++ implementation of Anonymous Stealth Addresses using OpenSSL. A version of stealth addresses has been implemented by SX and DarkWallet, but our implementation has been developed completely independent of either project. We have developed Dual-Key Stealth Addresses, which allow transactions to be received even while the wallet is closed, and for security, the coins will not be spendable until the wallet is unlocked. Our stealth solution has been developed for ShadowCoin but we believe that our implementation is the best currently available and will be used for bitcoin in the near future. This week we will be releasing ShadowSend, a capable, efficient and decentralized anonymous wallet solution that does not rely on coinjoin or any centralized node structure. This wallet will allow transactions to remain anonymous while the stealth address system is used. ShadowSend's stealth addresses will soon be layered with zk-snarks to further increase security and privacy of the anonymous solution, this will be the first system of its kind available in bitcoin or altcoins. Stay tuned for more information in the days to follow.
The white paper for stealth addresses has existed since January, for more information on the significance of stealth addresses, please check the links listed below. Bitcoin Stealth WP:http://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/mailman/message/31813471/Articles on Stealth Addresses:http://www.coindesk.com/stealth-addresses-secret-bitcoin-privacy/http://sx.dyne.org/stealth.htmlhttp://ro.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1v7ayg/revolution_in_bitcoin_privacy_stealth_addresses/https://wiki.unsystem.net/en/index.php/DarkWallet/Stealth “This just makes it more convenient for regular users to do the right thing and maintain their own privacies. This is about making bitcoin privacy easier for normal people.” - Peter Todd “So far, bitcoin users had had to pick between simplicity and privacy, stealth addresses let us have our cake and eat it.” - Mike Hearn Nice SCAM. SX is always able to send when offline and there are already tons of coin with Stealthaddresses: Vertcoin, Execoin, Bitshares, Monero, Boolberry, Bytecoin, Ducknote, Moneta Verde... Fuck who knows, tons of them, fuckface. So go scam somewhere else. Man your users are so dumb, they cant even read peters writeup and see through your bullshit. Reading comprehension is not your strong suit it I take it... "we have developed the first open source C++ implementation of Anonymous Stealth Addresses using OpenSSL." "A version of stealth addresses has been implemented by SX and DarkWallet, but our implementation has been developed completely independent of either project." FYI: The announcement clearly states there have been other implementations. ShadowDevs have improved on the idea...go back to your hole. Agreed with ItsNotMe , for what I can see this is a new independent developed solution, way different than the approach the other coins failed to reach, give it a try and read the specs and try the code , The solution SDC is bringing to the table is different and actually works. +1 |
"[Virtual Currencies] may hold long-term promise, particularly if the innovations promote a faster, more secure and more efficient payment system." ~Ben Bernanke
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August 02, 2014, 08:36:23 PM
Last edit: August 03, 2014, 04:34:23 PM by ItsNotMe |
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A version of stealth addresses has been implemented by SX and DarkWallet, but our implementation has been developed completely independent of either project. We have developed Dual-Key Stealth Addresses, which allow transactions to be received even while the wallet is closed, and for security, the coins will not be spendable until the wallet is unlocked. Or you might just stop telling shit like the above. Thats already how SX works. But of course you invented dual-key stealth addresses. So please explain us, how you use zk-snarks for your "shadowsend". In technical terms. HaHa! Its sooo uncommon to have anon/stealth FUD coming from a CryptoNote bag holder...  That was sarcasm...FUD is all you guys do. GO BACK TO YOUR CN HOLE! |
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August 02, 2014, 08:37:58 PM |
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Introducing: ShadowSend Hey guys, I am pleased to announce that we have successfully implemented Anonymous Stealth Addresses into our upcoming wallet release. The stealth system was first described by Peter Todd for use with Bitcoin but to our knowledge, we have developed the first open source C++ implementation of Anonymous Stealth Addresses using OpenSSL. A version of stealth addresses has been implemented by SX and DarkWallet, but our implementation has been developed completely independent of either project. We have developed Dual-Key Stealth Addresses, which allow transactions to be received even while the wallet is closed, and for security, the coins will not be spendable until the wallet is unlocked. Our stealth solution has been developed for ShadowCoin but we believe that our implementation is the best currently available and will be used for bitcoin in the near future. This week we will be releasing ShadowSend, a capable, efficient and decentralized anonymous wallet solution that does not rely on coinjoin or any centralized node structure. This wallet will allow transactions to remain anonymous while the stealth address system is used. ShadowSend's stealth addresses will soon be layered with zk-snarks to further increase security and privacy of the anonymous solution, this will be the first system of its kind available in bitcoin or altcoins. Stay tuned for more information in the days to follow.
The white paper for stealth addresses has existed since January, for more information on the significance of stealth addresses, please check the links listed below. Bitcoin Stealth WP:http://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/mailman/message/31813471/Articles on Stealth Addresses:http://www.coindesk.com/stealth-addresses-secret-bitcoin-privacy/http://sx.dyne.org/stealth.htmlhttp://ro.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1v7ayg/revolution_in_bitcoin_privacy_stealth_addresses/https://wiki.unsystem.net/en/index.php/DarkWallet/Stealth “This just makes it more convenient for regular users to do the right thing and maintain their own privacies. This is about making bitcoin privacy easier for normal people.” - Peter Todd “So far, bitcoin users had had to pick between simplicity and privacy, stealth addresses let us have our cake and eat it.” - Mike Hearn Nice SCAM. SX is always able to send when offline and there are already tons of coin with Stealthaddresses: Vertcoin, Execoin, Bitshares, Monero, Boolberry, Bytecoin, Ducknote, Moneta Verde... Fuck who knows, tons of them, fuckface. So go scam somewhere else. Man your users are so dumb, they cant even read peters writeup and see through your bullshit. Reading comprehension is not your strong suit it I take it... "we have developed the first open source C++ implementation of Anonymous Stealth Addresses using OpenSSL." "A version of stealth addresses has been implemented by SX and DarkWallet, but our implementation has been developed completely independent of either project." FYI: The announcement clearly states there have been other implementations. ShadowDevs have improved on the idea...go back to your hole. exactly!!! ItsNotMe is spot on... don't forget shadow has no premine and no ipo... This coin is already full pos, which was a very smooth transition by the way. instead of trying to get keep coins... u should just buy before the price goes up more |
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August 02, 2014, 08:38:26 PM |
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Introducing: ShadowSend Hey guys, I am pleased to announce that we have successfully implemented Anonymous Stealth Addresses into our upcoming wallet release. The stealth system was first described by Peter Todd for use with Bitcoin but to our knowledge, we have developed the first open source C++ implementation of Anonymous Stealth Addresses using OpenSSL. A version of stealth addresses has been implemented by SX and DarkWallet, but our implementation has been developed completely independent of either project. We have developed Dual-Key Stealth Addresses, which allow transactions to be received even while the wallet is closed, and for security, the coins will not be spendable until the wallet is unlocked. Our stealth solution has been developed for ShadowCoin but we believe that our implementation is the best currently available and will be used for bitcoin in the near future. This week we will be releasing ShadowSend, a capable, efficient and decentralized anonymous wallet solution that does not rely on coinjoin or any centralized node structure. This wallet will allow transactions to remain anonymous while the stealth address system is used. ShadowSend's stealth addresses will soon be layered with zk-snarks to further increase security and privacy of the anonymous solution, this will be the first system of its kind available in bitcoin or altcoins. Stay tuned for more information in the days to follow.
The white paper for stealth addresses has existed since January, for more information on the significance of stealth addresses, please check the links listed below. Bitcoin Stealth WP:http://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/mailman/message/31813471/Articles on Stealth Addresses:http://www.coindesk.com/stealth-addresses-secret-bitcoin-privacy/http://sx.dyne.org/stealth.htmlhttp://ro.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1v7ayg/revolution_in_bitcoin_privacy_stealth_addresses/https://wiki.unsystem.net/en/index.php/DarkWallet/Stealth “This just makes it more convenient for regular users to do the right thing and maintain their own privacies. This is about making bitcoin privacy easier for normal people.” - Peter Todd “So far, bitcoin users had had to pick between simplicity and privacy, stealth addresses let us have our cake and eat it.” - Mike Hearn Nice SCAM. SX is always able to send when offline and there are already tons of coin with Stealthaddresses: Vertcoin, Execoin, Bitshares, Monero, Boolberry, Bytecoin, Ducknote, Moneta Verde... Fuck who knows, tons of them, fuckface. So go scam somewhere else. Man your users are so dumb, they cant even read peters writeup and see through your bullshit. Reading comprehension is not your strong suit it I take it... "we have developed the first open source C++ implementation of Anonymous Stealth Addresses using OpenSSL." "A version of stealth addresses has been implemented by SX and DarkWallet, but our implementation has been developed completely independent of either project." FYI: The announcement clearly states there have been other implementations. ShadowDevs have improved on the idea...go back to your hole. New approach, new solutions, new upgrades = innovation. The fact that fud is this weak for a coin that has such rapid growth is a proof this coin has what it takes to establish a legitimate top 10 market cap ranking. |
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August 02, 2014, 08:40:57 PM |
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Introducing: ShadowSend Hey guys, I am pleased to announce that we have successfully implemented Anonymous Stealth Addresses into our upcoming wallet release. The stealth system was first described by Peter Todd for use with Bitcoin but to our knowledge, we have developed the first open source C++ implementation of Anonymous Stealth Addresses using OpenSSL. A version of stealth addresses has been implemented by SX and DarkWallet, but our implementation has been developed completely independent of either project. We have developed Dual-Key Stealth Addresses, which allow transactions to be received even while the wallet is closed, and for security, the coins will not be spendable until the wallet is unlocked. Our stealth solution has been developed for ShadowCoin but we believe that our implementation is the best currently available and will be used for bitcoin in the near future. This week we will be releasing ShadowSend, a capable, efficient and decentralized anonymous wallet solution that does not rely on coinjoin or any centralized node structure. This wallet will allow transactions to remain anonymous while the stealth address system is used. ShadowSend's stealth addresses will soon be layered with zk-snarks to further increase security and privacy of the anonymous solution, this will be the first system of its kind available in bitcoin or altcoins. Stay tuned for more information in the days to follow.
The white paper for stealth addresses has existed since January, for more information on the significance of stealth addresses, please check the links listed below. Bitcoin Stealth WP:http://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/mailman/message/31813471/Articles on Stealth Addresses:http://www.coindesk.com/stealth-addresses-secret-bitcoin-privacy/http://sx.dyne.org/stealth.htmlhttp://ro.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1v7ayg/revolution_in_bitcoin_privacy_stealth_addresses/https://wiki.unsystem.net/en/index.php/DarkWallet/Stealth “This just makes it more convenient for regular users to do the right thing and maintain their own privacies. This is about making bitcoin privacy easier for normal people.” - Peter Todd “So far, bitcoin users had had to pick between simplicity and privacy, stealth addresses let us have our cake and eat it.” - Mike Hearn Nice SCAM. SX is always able to send when offline and there are already tons of coin with Stealthaddresses: Vertcoin, Execoin, Bitshares, Monero, Boolberry, Bytecoin, Ducknote, Moneta Verde... Fuck who knows, tons of them, fuckface. So go scam somewhere else. Man your users are so dumb, they cant even read peters writeup and see through your bullshit. Reading comprehension is not your strong suit it I take it... "we have developed the first open source C++ implementation of Anonymous Stealth Addresses using OpenSSL." "A version of stealth addresses has been implemented by SX and DarkWallet, but our implementation has been developed completely independent of either project." FYI: The announcement clearly states there have been other implementations. ShadowDevs have improved on the idea...go back to your hole. New approach, new solutions, new upgrades = innovation. The fact that fud is this weak for a coin that has such rapid growth is a proof this coin has what it takes to establish a legitimate top 10 market cap ranking. very good point!!! this coin reminds me of bc in its early days right before the big push... i'm all in... and trying to get more btc so can get all that i can while its at these prices... i can't wait until a multipool comes out!!! |
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Djinou94
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August 02, 2014, 08:42:52 PM |
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Shadow Black rocket ready!
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August 02, 2014, 08:45:38 PM |
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Of course dudes. another funny note, shadowcoin message "whitepaper pdf" has the following footnotes: 4. References [1] “The Universal Declaration of Human Rights” http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/index.shtml 1948 [2] S. Nakamoto, “Bitcoin: A Peer‐to‐Peer Electronic Cash System,” http://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf,
2008[3] J. Warren “Bitmessage: A Peer‐to‐Peer Message Authentication and Delivery System“ http://bitmessage.org/bitmessage.pdf, 2012 <-- Thats the whitepaper they copied from[4] A. Harris, “Spy Agency Sought U.S. Call Records Before 9/11, Lawyers Say,”
www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=abIV0cO64zJE , 2006[5] E. Mills, “Fraudulent Google certificate points to Internet attack,” http://news.cnet.com/8301‐
27080_3‐20098894‐245/fraudulent‐google‐certificate‐points‐to‐internet‐attack/ , 2011[6] J. Bamford, “The NSA Is Building the Country’s Biggest Spy Center (Watch What You Say),”
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/all/1 , 2012[7] “Now We Know What the Battle Was About,” http://www.newsweek.com/id/174602 , 2008[8] E. Lichtblau, J. Risen, “Officials Say U.S. Wiretaps Exceeded Law,”
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/16/us/16nsa.html , 2009[9] H. Adkins, “An update on attempted man‐in‐the‐middle attacks,”
http://googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.com/2011/08/update‐on‐attempted‐man‐in‐middle.html,
2011[10] P. Eckersley, J. Burns, “An Observatory for the SSLiverse,”
https://www.eff.org/files/DefconSSLiverse.pdf , 2010The Bitmessage Whitepaper has: https://bitmessage.org/bitmessage.pdf References [1] “Now We Know What the Battle Was About,” http://www.newsweek.com/id/174602 , 2008 [2] A. Harris, “Spy Agency Sought U.S. Call Records Before 9/11, Lawyers Say,”
www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=abIV0cO64zJE , 2006 [3] J. Bamford, “The NSA Is Building the Country’s Biggest Spy Center (Watch What You Say),”
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/all/1 , 2012 [4] E. Lichtblau, J. Risen, “Officials Say U.S. Wiretaps Exceeded Law,”
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/16/us/16nsa.html , 2009 [5] E. Mills, “Fraudulent Google certificate points to Internet attack,” http://news.cnet.com/8301‐
27080_3‐20098894‐245/fraudulent‐google‐certificate‐points‐to‐internet‐attack/ , 2011 [6] H. Adkins, “An update on attempted man‐in‐the‐middle attacks,”
http://googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.com/2011/08/update‐on‐attempted‐man‐in‐middle.html ,
2011 [7] P. Eckersley, J. Burns, “An Observatory for the SSLiverse,”
https://www.eff.org/files/DefconSSLiverse.pdf , 2010 [8] S. Nakamoto, “Bitcoin: A Peer‐to‐Peer Electronic Cash System,” http://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf ,
2008 * Bold are the references who are the same in both Papers, where of course only the Bitmessage whitepaper is to be considered a real whitepaper. First of all, if you write a whitepaper and add footnotes, you have to reference them in the text...But of course you cant because you reworded the text too much. Second, you basically added a preample (We shadowcoin team believe in human rights blabla) and then reworded the Bitmessage whitepaper letting out all interesting stuff? So, you cloned Bitmessage basically? Whats the point? |
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August 02, 2014, 08:46:04 PM |
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This. This right here is a ray of sunshine amidst all the crap garbage coins that have been coming out. Here's why:
1. A great dev team.
2. Solid concepts for coin design.
3. NO bullshit ipo, premine, or instamine.
4. ANONYMITY.
5. Fresh features(such as ShadowChat).
Get it while it's hot ppl. It's gonna be a bumpy ride......
-Al
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August 02, 2014, 08:47:00 PM |
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Introducing: ShadowSend Hey guys, I am pleased to announce that we have successfully implemented Anonymous Stealth Addresses into our upcoming wallet release. The stealth system was first described by Peter Todd for use with Bitcoin but to our knowledge, we have developed the first open source C++ implementation of Anonymous Stealth Addresses using OpenSSL. A version of stealth addresses has been implemented by SX and DarkWallet, but our implementation has been developed completely independent of either project. We have developed Dual-Key Stealth Addresses, which allow transactions to be received even while the wallet is closed, and for security, the coins will not be spendable until the wallet is unlocked. Our stealth solution has been developed for ShadowCoin but we believe that our implementation is the best currently available and will be used for bitcoin in the near future. This week we will be releasing ShadowSend, a capable, efficient and decentralized anonymous wallet solution that does not rely on coinjoin or any centralized node structure. This wallet will allow transactions to remain anonymous while the stealth address system is used. ShadowSend's stealth addresses will soon be layered with zk-snarks to further increase security and privacy of the anonymous solution, this will be the first system of its kind available in bitcoin or altcoins. Stay tuned for more information in the days to follow.
The white paper for stealth addresses has existed since January, for more information on the significance of stealth addresses, please check the links listed below. Bitcoin Stealth WP:http://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/mailman/message/31813471/Articles on Stealth Addresses:http://www.coindesk.com/stealth-addresses-secret-bitcoin-privacy/http://sx.dyne.org/stealth.htmlhttp://ro.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1v7ayg/revolution_in_bitcoin_privacy_stealth_addresses/https://wiki.unsystem.net/en/index.php/DarkWallet/Stealth “This just makes it more convenient for regular users to do the right thing and maintain their own privacies. This is about making bitcoin privacy easier for normal people.” - Peter Todd “So far, bitcoin users had had to pick between simplicity and privacy, stealth addresses let us have our cake and eat it.” - Mike Hearn FUD Regarding other projects implementing stealth addresses... that is thoroughly stated & implied throughout the announcement. It is crystal clear that rynomster gave credit where credit is due, and never stated that they invented stealth addresses. But they did state that ShadowCoin improved upon currently implemented stealth address solutions through ShadowSend's method. Rynomster clearly says, "We have developed the first open source C++ implementation of Anonymous Stealth Addresses using OpenSSL. A version of stealth addresses has been implemented by SX and DarkWallet, but our implementation has been developed completely independent of either project. We have developed Dual-Key Stealth Addresses, which allow transactions to be received even while the wallet is closed, and for security, the coins will not be spendable until the wallet is unlocked. Our stealth solution has been developed for ShadowCoin but we believe that our implementation is the best currently available and will be used for bitcoin in the near future." He even goes on to say that ShadowSend will be layered with zk-snarks... Before spreading FUD, why don't you give the ShadowCoin dev team more time to release further information? Today's announcement appears to be a pre-announcement of ShadowSend... I am sure more detailed information will be released in the days to come. |
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August 02, 2014, 08:52:23 PM |
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Of course dudes. another funny note, shadowcoin message "whitepaper pdf" has the following footnotes: 4. References [1] “The Universal Declaration of Human Rights” http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/index.shtml 1948 [2] S. Nakamoto, “Bitcoin: A Peer‐to‐Peer Electronic Cash System,” http://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf,
2008[3] J. Warren “Bitmessage: A Peer‐to‐Peer Message Authentication and Delivery System“ http://bitmessage.org/bitmessage.pdf, 2012 <-- Thats the whitepaper they copied from[4] A. Harris, “Spy Agency Sought U.S. Call Records Before 9/11, Lawyers Say,”
www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=abIV0cO64zJE , 2006[5] E. Mills, “Fraudulent Google certificate points to Internet attack,” http://news.cnet.com/8301‐
27080_3‐20098894‐245/fraudulent‐google‐certificate‐points‐to‐internet‐attack/ , 2011[6] J. Bamford, “The NSA Is Building the Country’s Biggest Spy Center (Watch What You Say),”
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/all/1 , 2012[7] “Now We Know What the Battle Was About,” http://www.newsweek.com/id/174602 , 2008[8] E. Lichtblau, J. Risen, “Officials Say U.S. Wiretaps Exceeded Law,”
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/16/us/16nsa.html , 2009[9] H. Adkins, “An update on attempted man‐in‐the‐middle attacks,”
http://googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.com/2011/08/update‐on‐attempted‐man‐in‐middle.html,
2011[10] P. Eckersley, J. Burns, “An Observatory for the SSLiverse,”
https://www.eff.org/files/DefconSSLiverse.pdf , 2010The Bitmessage Whitepaper has: https://bitmessage.org/bitmessage.pdf References [1] “Now We Know What the Battle Was About,” http://www.newsweek.com/id/174602 , 2008 [2] A. Harris, “Spy Agency Sought U.S. Call Records Before 9/11, Lawyers Say,”
www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=abIV0cO64zJE , 2006 [3] J. Bamford, “The NSA Is Building the Country’s Biggest Spy Center (Watch What You Say),”
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/all/1 , 2012 [4] E. Lichtblau, J. Risen, “Officials Say U.S. Wiretaps Exceeded Law,”
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/16/us/16nsa.html , 2009 [5] E. Mills, “Fraudulent Google certificate points to Internet attack,” http://news.cnet.com/8301‐
27080_3‐20098894‐245/fraudulent‐google‐certificate‐points‐to‐internet‐attack/ , 2011 [6] H. Adkins, “An update on attempted man‐in‐the‐middle attacks,”
http://googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.com/2011/08/update‐on‐attempted‐man‐in‐middle.html ,
2011 [7] P. Eckersley, J. Burns, “An Observatory for the SSLiverse,”
https://www.eff.org/files/DefconSSLiverse.pdf , 2010 [8] S. Nakamoto, “Bitcoin: A Peer‐to‐Peer Electronic Cash System,” http://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf ,
2008 First of all, if you write a whitepaper and add footnotes, you have to reference them in the text...But of course you cant because you reworded the text too much. Second, you basically added a preample (We shadowcoin team believe in human rights blabla) and then reworded the Bitmessage whitepaper letting out all interesting stuff? So, you cloned Bitmessage basically? Whats the point? Have you ever used BItMessage? HaHa nope!...or you would not have brought it up. ShadowChat is a much better implementation than BitMessage...sry CN Bagholder FUDster. ShadowSend promises to as much of an improvement over the current stealth implementations as ShadowChat is over BitMessage.Look man...CryptoNote is not going to last. There is too much first mover advantage for the BTC protocol. Pull the FUD stick out of your ass and open your eyes. ShadowCoin is the real deal. Rynomster is a genius level developer...you are going to have to deal with it. |
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Honeypot
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August 02, 2014, 08:55:19 PM |
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Of course dudes. another funny note, shadowcoin message "whitepaper pdf" has the following footnotes: 4. References [1] “The Universal Declaration of Human Rights” http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/index.shtml 1948 [2] S. Nakamoto, “Bitcoin: A Peer‐to‐Peer Electronic Cash System,” http://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf,
2008[3] J. Warren “Bitmessage: A Peer‐to‐Peer Message Authentication and Delivery System“ http://bitmessage.org/bitmessage.pdf, 2012 <-- Thats the whitepaper they copied from[4] A. Harris, “Spy Agency Sought U.S. Call Records Before 9/11, Lawyers Say,”
www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=abIV0cO64zJE , 2006[5] E. Mills, “Fraudulent Google certificate points to Internet attack,” http://news.cnet.com/8301‐
27080_3‐20098894‐245/fraudulent‐google‐certificate‐points‐to‐internet‐attack/ , 2011[6] J. Bamford, “The NSA Is Building the Country’s Biggest Spy Center (Watch What You Say),”
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/all/1 , 2012[7] “Now We Know What the Battle Was About,” http://www.newsweek.com/id/174602 , 2008[8] E. Lichtblau, J. Risen, “Officials Say U.S. Wiretaps Exceeded Law,”
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/16/us/16nsa.html , 2009[9] H. Adkins, “An update on attempted man‐in‐the‐middle attacks,”
http://googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.com/2011/08/update‐on‐attempted‐man‐in‐middle.html,
2011[10] P. Eckersley, J. Burns, “An Observatory for the SSLiverse,”
https://www.eff.org/files/DefconSSLiverse.pdf , 2010The Bitmessage Whitepaper has: https://bitmessage.org/bitmessage.pdf References [1] “Now We Know What the Battle Was About,” http://www.newsweek.com/id/174602 , 2008 [2] A. Harris, “Spy Agency Sought U.S. Call Records Before 9/11, Lawyers Say,”
www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=abIV0cO64zJE , 2006 [3] J. Bamford, “The NSA Is Building the Country’s Biggest Spy Center (Watch What You Say),”
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/all/1 , 2012 [4] E. Lichtblau, J. Risen, “Officials Say U.S. Wiretaps Exceeded Law,”
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/16/us/16nsa.html , 2009 [5] E. Mills, “Fraudulent Google certificate points to Internet attack,” http://news.cnet.com/8301‐
27080_3‐20098894‐245/fraudulent‐google‐certificate‐points‐to‐internet‐attack/ , 2011 [6] H. Adkins, “An update on attempted man‐in‐the‐middle attacks,”
http://googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.com/2011/08/update‐on‐attempted‐man‐in‐middle.html ,
2011 [7] P. Eckersley, J. Burns, “An Observatory for the SSLiverse,”
https://www.eff.org/files/DefconSSLiverse.pdf , 2010 [8] S. Nakamoto, “Bitcoin: A Peer‐to‐Peer Electronic Cash System,” http://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf ,
2008 * Bold are the references who are the same in both Papers, where of course only the Bitmessage whitepaper is to be considered a real whitepaper. First of all, if you write a whitepaper and add footnotes, you have to reference them in the text...But of course you cant because you reworded the text too much. Second, you basically added a preample (We shadowcoin team believe in human rights blabla) and then reworded the Bitmessage whitepaper letting out all interesting stuff? So, you cloned Bitmessage basically? Whats the point? Funny you should play proofreader now, but honestly I don't see anything wrong with building on top of what's been established, developing it further with new additions that are both substantial and innovative, and creating a new coin based off of hard work and labor. From what I read, most white papers including this one contain very similar language and templates due to the fact that - They are all crypto currency. No surprises there. Maybe you can go proofread all the other 'whitepapers' and tell me this one is any worse. For a crypto community managed project, this one definitely stands at the top. I personally find the dev dedication, product quality, and community acceptance of new development a refreshing change from the collection of garbage coins in the past 2 months. This coin offers a real deal and a step in the right direction. If the best you can do for trying to mess with a coin is moaning about references in the paper, you should know you are playing on the back foot here. There's no need for misdirected fud for this coin. Dev did not over promise or over hype - this coin just punches out results after results. So far I've only seen weak attempts at fud cherry picking facts to make things sound worse then they really are. Not only that, the dev answered each and everyone categorically and precisely. I support this coin full heartedly. |
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red5standingby
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August 02, 2014, 08:58:05 PM |
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Regarding other projects implementing stealth addresses... that is thoroughly stated & implied throughout the announcement. It is crystal clear that rynomster gave credit where credit is due, and never stated that they invented stealth addresses. But they did state that ShadowCoin improved upon currently implemented stealth address solutions through ShadowSend's method.
Rynomster clearly says, "We have developed the first open source C++ implementation of Anonymous Stealth Addresses using OpenSSL. A version of stealth addresses has been implemented by SX and DarkWallet, but our implementation has been developed completely independent of either project. We have developed Dual-Key Stealth Addresses, which allow transactions to be received even while the wallet is closed, and for security, the coins will not be spendable until the wallet is unlocked. Our stealth solution has been developed for ShadowCoin but we believe that our implementation is the best currently available and will be used for bitcoin in the near future."
He even goes on to say that ShadowSend will be layered with zk-snarks...
Before spreading FUD, why don't you give the ShadowCoin dev team more time to release further information? Today's announcement appears to be a pre-announcement of ShadowSend... I am sure more detailed information will be released in the days to come.
Well said. Looking forward to a more detailed synopsis, however the reputation of the devs speaks volumes. Kuddos and great job! |
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ItsNotMe
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August 02, 2014, 08:59:33 PM |
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Introducing: ShadowSend Hey guys, I am pleased to announce that we have successfully implemented Anonymous Stealth Addresses into our upcoming wallet release. The stealth system was first described by Peter Todd for use with Bitcoin but to our knowledge, we have developed the first open source C++ implementation of Anonymous Stealth Addresses using OpenSSL. A version of stealth addresses has been implemented by SX and DarkWallet, but our implementation has been developed completely independent of either project. We have developed Dual-Key Stealth Addresses, which allow transactions to be received even while the wallet is closed, and for security, the coins will not be spendable until the wallet is unlocked. Our stealth solution has been developed for ShadowCoin but we believe that our implementation is the best currently available and will be used for bitcoin in the near future. This week we will be releasing ShadowSend, a capable, efficient and decentralized anonymous wallet solution that does not rely on coinjoin or any centralized node structure. This wallet will allow transactions to remain anonymous while the stealth address system is used. ShadowSend's stealth addresses will soon be layered with zk-snarks to further increase security and privacy of the anonymous solution, this will be the first system of its kind available in bitcoin or altcoins. Stay tuned for more information in the days to follow.
The white paper for stealth addresses has existed since January, for more information on the significance of stealth addresses, please check the links listed below. Bitcoin Stealth WP:http://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/mailman/message/31813471/Articles on Stealth Addresses:http://www.coindesk.com/stealth-addresses-secret-bitcoin-privacy/http://sx.dyne.org/stealth.htmlhttp://ro.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1v7ayg/revolution_in_bitcoin_privacy_stealth_addresses/https://wiki.unsystem.net/en/index.php/DarkWallet/Stealth “This just makes it more convenient for regular users to do the right thing and maintain their own privacies. This is about making bitcoin privacy easier for normal people.” - Peter Todd “So far, bitcoin users had had to pick between simplicity and privacy, stealth addresses let us have our cake and eat it.” - Mike Hearn FUD Regarding other projects implementing stealth addresses... that is thoroughly stated & implied throughout the announcement. It is crystal clear that rynomster gave credit where credit is due, and never stated that they invented stealth addresses. But they did state that ShadowCoin improved upon currently implemented stealth address solutions through ShadowSend's method. Rynomster clearly says, "We have developed the first open source C++ implementation of Anonymous Stealth Addresses using OpenSSL. A version of stealth addresses has been implemented by SX and DarkWallet, but our implementation has been developed completely independent of either project. We have developed Dual-Key Stealth Addresses, which allow transactions to be received even while the wallet is closed, and for security, the coins will not be spendable until the wallet is unlocked. Our stealth solution has been developed for ShadowCoin but we believe that our implementation is the best currently available and will be used for bitcoin in the near future." He even goes on to say that ShadowSend will be layered with zk-snarks... Before spreading FUD, why don't you give the ShadowCoin dev team more time to release further information? Today's announcement appears to be a pre-announcement of ShadowSend... I am sure more detailed information will be released in the days to come. Because the guy is a CN FUDster that gets off bending the truth to match his elitist view of CN protocol. You cant fix this kind of mentality...if reality does not match their view, they attempt to bend reality to match their view. They are egotistical and narcissistic...why else would they be posting? |
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RW-Stott
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August 02, 2014, 09:03:04 PM |
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More fud
You know you're desperate when you're complaining over footnotes. Do you even understand how the academic world works? |
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ItsNotMe
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August 02, 2014, 09:07:05 PM |
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More fud
You know you're desperate when you're bitching over footnotes. Do you even understand how the academic world works? For sure...no idea how academia works! He is coming across like a true imbecile. FUDing about footnotes is a desperate move. |
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August 02, 2014, 09:10:02 PM |
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Yes,
you write something and then you put references in.
That's how it works.
But you didn't, nor did you provide any indepth technical analysis, Bitmessage did tho.
Calling someone a "Fudster" or "bagholder" and not answering my questions, very mature, but i guess you cant answer them anyway.
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