[XMR] rpietila Monero Economics thread

[rpietila]

Less economics than speculation, but...

I am calling a bottom on Monero (BTC/XMR rate).

- I already predicted in a certain speculation group about 9 days ago that the bottom would be Sunday, Aug 17.

- Now I am not sure if it will be yesterday or tomorrow, since there is a compelling case for tomorrow also: in 2014-8-19 it will be 37 days from the last bottom, which also was 37 days from the previous one. The lowest prices are aligned at 175005 sat, 231500 sat, and (so far) 290000 sat. The difference between the first ones is 56495 sat and the last ones 58500 sat. There seems to be a cosmic tendency towards symmetry here, so a dip slightly below 290000 may happen tomorrow, but if so, it must be before the market participants start bidding the price up.

- During the dip to sub-3, only 14k moneros have so far been transacted sub-3 (Poloniex). Nobody seems to have much urge of selling them so cheap.

- Of course I know the market dynamics that are causing Monero (which fundamentally is a beneficiary of Bitcoin's troubles) to be double-hammered (in USD/BTC and BTC/XMR both tanking). I just believe that it is over and if not, then it might make sense to buy, if your position is so small that it is possible with the meager depth offered.

[Okurkabinladin]

Less economics than speculation, but...

I am calling a bottom on Monero (BTC/XMR rate).

- I already predicted in a certain speculation group about 9 days ago that the bottom would be Sunday, Aug 17.

- Now I am not sure if it will be yesterday or tomorrow, since there is a compelling case for tomorrow also: in 2014-8-19 it will be 37 days from the last bottom, which also was 37 days from the previous one. The lowest prices are aligned at 175005 sat, 231500 sat, and (so far) 290000 sat. The difference between the first ones is 56495 sat and the last ones 58500 sat. There seems to be a cosmic tendency towards symmetry here, so a dip slightly below 290000 may happen tomorrow, but if so, it must be before the market participants start bidding the price up.

- During the dip to sub-3, only 14k moneros have so far been transacted sub-3 (Poloniex). Nobody seems to have much urge of selling them so cheap.

- Of course I know the market dynamics that are causing Monero (which fundamentally is a beneficiary of Bitcoin's troubles) to be double-hammered (in USD/BTC and BTC/XMR both tanking). I just believe that it is over and if not, then it might make sense to buy, if your position is so small that it is possible with the meager depth offered.

Thank you, sir.

Interestingly your prediction coincides with that of Aminorex, who thought, that rally will start around august 20th.

[rpietila]

Technically, I was not talking about a rally but a bottom. Well, it is kind of same thing. But external events (btc) may postpone the actual rally, or cause volatility.

[cAPSLOCK]

Chart is poised to repeat the July 13th type of turnaround.  More and more, the buzz I am starting to hear is about XMR displacing DRK and even LTC.  Even some skeptics seem to be commenting on the fundamentals, and in light of the CN controversy and how that is shaking out I am personally putting a bit of money where my mouth is right now.

I'm not an investment guru, but things just look twitchy right here... in a good way.

Obviously, there is far to go (messy code, database, gui, etc) , and the emission is still aggressive, but I feel like we are at a sort of critical tipping point possibly.

[saddambitcoin]

Thought I might x-post from Reddit since it is relevant - if you are in NYC you can now pay for psychiatric services with Monero!

http://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/2dum4r/i_am_a_new_york_city_psychiatrist_who_accepts/

[ArticMine]

Chart is poised to repeat the July 13th type of turnaround.  More and more, the buzz I am starting to hear is about XMR displacing DRK and even LTC.  Even some skeptics seem to be commenting on the fundamentals, and in light of the CN controversy and how that is shaking out I am personally putting a bit of money where my mouth is right now.

I'm not an investment guru, but things just look twitchy right here... in a good way.

Obviously, there is far to go (messy code, database, gui, etc) , and the emission is still aggressive, but I feel like we are at a sort of critical tipping point possibly.

If DRK/XMR stays below 1, this is going to get very interesting. https://bitcoinwisdom.com/

[Yololintian]

Just checking in to say I am very glad monero is holding up so well in this bear market. Gives me confidence in the coin and shows me that the people who have invested are serious about this for the long term. It has some serious potential.

[aminorex]

Thought I might x-post from Reddit since it is relevant - if you are in NYC you can now pay for psychiatric services with Monero!

http://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/2dum4r/i_am_a_new_york_city_psychiatrist_who_accepts/

anyone who deems an altcoin an investment on grounds of its fundamentals and long-term growth prospects is disproportionately likely to have need of a manhattan psychiatrist (and ability to pay).  i may go there myself.  do they still prescribe quaaludes?

[Anotheranonlol]

Thought I might x-post from Reddit since it is relevant - if you are in NYC you can now pay for psychiatric services with Monero!

http://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/2dum4r/i_am_a_new_york_city_psychiatrist_who_accepts/

Shrink finds his perfect demographic. Great news for XMR perma-bulls, they can now get the help they need without being traced through the blockchain

[saddambitcoin]

Thought I might x-post from Reddit since it is relevant - if you are in NYC you can now pay for psychiatric services with Monero!

http://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/2dum4r/i_am_a_new_york_city_psychiatrist_who_accepts/

anyone who deems an altcoin an investment on grounds of its fundamentals and long-term growth prospects is disproportionately likely to have need of a manhattan psychiatrist (and ability to pay).  i may go there myself.  do they still prescribe quaaludes?

i'm not sure what is the modern-day equivalent to quaaludes, maybe xanax? i don't like either tbh. i'm sure you could get some amphetamines though, for your adult ADD. i enjoyed vyvanse for years but its too habit forming, ahh

[nakaone]

Any projections as to when the emission rate will decrease for Monero?

Code:

day	coins	new
18.4.2014	15 580	25 333
19.4.2014	40 891	25 311
20.4.2014	66 168	25 277
21.4.2014	91 410	25 242
22.4.2014	116 617	25 207
23.4.2014	141 790	25 173
24.4.2014	166 928	25 138
25.4.2014	192 031	25 104
26.4.2014	217 100	25 069
27.4.2014	242 135	25 035
28.4.2014	267 135	25 000
29.4.2014	292 101	24 966
30.4.2014	317 033	24 932
1.5.2014	341 930	24 897
2.5.2014	366 793	24 863
3.5.2014	391 622	24 829
4.5.2014	416 417	24 795
5.5.2014	441 178	24 761
6.5.2014	465 905	24 727
7.5.2014	490 598	24 693
8.5.2014	515 257	24 659
9.5.2014	539 882	24 625
10.5.2014	564 473	24 591
11.5.2014	589 031	24 558
12.5.2014	613 555	24 524
13.5.2014	638 045	24 490
14.5.2014	662 501	24 457
15.5.2014	686 924	24 423
16.5.2014	711 314	24 389
17.5.2014	735 670	24 356
18.5.2014	759 992	24 322
19.5.2014	784 281	24 289
20.5.2014	808 537	24 256
21.5.2014	832 759	24 222
22.5.2014	856 948	24 189
23.5.2014	881 104	24 156
24.5.2014	905 227	24 123
25.5.2014	929 317	24 090
26.5.2014	953 373	24 057
27.5.2014	977 397	24 023
28.5.2014	1 001 387	23 990
29.5.2014	1 025 345	23 958
30.5.2014	1 049 269	23 925
31.5.2014	1 073 161	23 892
1.6.2014	1 097 020	23 859
2.6.2014	1 120 846	23 826
3.6.2014	1 144 640	23 793
4.6.2014	1 168 401	23 761
5.6.2014	1 192 129	23 728
6.6.2014	1 215 824	23 696
7.6.2014	1 239 487	23 663
8.6.2014	1 263 118	23 631
9.6.2014	1 286 716	23 598
10.6.2014	1 310 282	23 566
11.6.2014	1 333 815	23 533
12.6.2014	1 357 316	23 501
13.6.2014	1 380 785	23 469
14.6.2014	1 404 222	23 437
15.6.2014	1 427 626	23 404
16.6.2014	1 450 998	23 372
17.6.2014	1 474 338	23 340
18.6.2014	1 497 646	23 308
19.6.2014	1 520 922	23 276
20.6.2014	1 544 166	23 244
21.6.2014	1 567 379	23 212
22.6.2014	1 590 559	23 180
23.6.2014	1 613 707	23 148
24.6.2014	1 636 824	23 117
25.6.2014	1 659 909	23 085
26.6.2014	1 682 962	23 053
27.6.2014	1 705 984	23 022
28.6.2014	1 728 974	22 990
29.6.2014	1 751 932	22 958
30.6.2014	1 774 859	22 927
1.7.2014	1 797 754	22 895
2.7.2014	1 820 618	22 864
3.7.2014	1 843 451	22 833
4.7.2014	1 866 252	22 801
5.7.2014	1 889 022	22 770
6.7.2014	1 911 760	22 739
7.7.2014	1 934 467	22 707
8.7.2014	1 957 144	22 676
9.7.2014	1 979 789	22 645
10.7.2014	2 002 403	22 614
11.7.2014	2 024 985	22 583
12.7.2014	2 047 537	22 552
13.7.2014	2 070 058	22 521
14.7.2014	2 092 548	22 490
15.7.2014	2 115 007	22 459
16.7.2014	2 137 435	22 428
17.7.2014	2 159 833	22 397
18.7.2014	2 182 199	22 367
19.7.2014	2 204 535	22 336
20.7.2014	2 226 841	22 305
21.7.2014	2 249 115	22 275
22.7.2014	2 271 359	22 244
23.7.2014	2 293 573	22 214
24.7.2014	2 315 756	22 183
25.7.2014	2 337 908	22 153
26.7.2014	2 368 839	22 122
27.7.2014	2 390 919	22 080
28.7.2014	2 412 968	22 049
29.7.2014	2 434 987	22 019
30.7.2014	2 456 976	21 989
31.7.2014	2 478 934	21 959
1.8.2014	2 500 863	21 928
2.8.2014	2 522 761	21 898
3.8.2014	2 544 629	21 868
4.8.2014	2 566 468	21 838
5.8.2014	2 588 276	21 808
6.8.2014	2 610 054	21 778
7.8.2014	2 631 803	21 748
8.8.2014	2 653 521	21 719
9.8.2014	2 675 210	21 689
10.8.2014	2 696 869	21 659
11.8.2014	2 718 498	21 629
12.8.2014	2 740 097	21 599
13.8.2014	2 761 667	21 570
14.8.2014	2 783 207	21 540
15.8.2014	2 804 718	21 511
16.8.2014	2 826 199	21 481
17.8.2014	2 847 651	21 452
18.8.2014	2 869 073	21 422
19.8.2014	2 890 465	21 393
20.8.2014	2 911 829	21 363
21.8.2014	2 933 163	21 334
22.8.2014	2 954 467	21 305
23.8.2014	2 975 743	21 275
24.8.2014	2 996 989	21 246
25.8.2014	3 018 206	21 217
26.8.2014	3 039 394	21 188
27.8.2014	3 060 552	21 159
28.8.2014	3 081 682	21 130
29.8.2014	3 102 783	21 101
30.8.2014	3 123 855	21 072
31.8.2014	3 144 897	21 043
1.9.2014	3 165 911	21 014
2.9.2014	3 186 896	20 985
3.9.2014	3 207 853	20 956
4.9.2014	3 228 780	20 927
5.9.2014	3 249 679	20 899
6.9.2014	3 270 549	20 870
7.9.2014	3 291 390	20 841
8.9.2014	3 312 203	20 813
9.9.2014	3 332 987	20 784
10.9.2014	3 353 742	20 756
11.9.2014	3 374 469	20 727
12.9.2014	3 395 168	20 699
13.9.2014	3 415 838	20 670
14.9.2014	3 436 480	20 642
15.9.2014	3 457 094	20 613
16.9.2014	3 477 679	20 585
17.9.2014	3 498 236	20 557
18.9.2014	3 518 764	20 529
19.9.2014	3 539 265	20 500
20.9.2014	3 559 737	20 472
21.9.2014	3 580 181	20 444
22.9.2014	3 600 597	20 416
23.9.2014	3 620 985	20 388
24.9.2014	3 641 345	20 360
25.9.2014	3 661 678	20 332
26.9.2014	3 681 982	20 304
27.9.2014	3 702 258	20 276
28.9.2014	3 722 507	20 248
29.9.2014	3 742 727	20 221
30.9.2014	3 762 920	20 193
1.10.2014	3 783 085	20 165
2.10.2014	3 803 223	20 137
3.10.2014	3 823 333	20 110
4.10.2014	3 843 415	20 082
5.10.2014	3 863 469	20 055
6.10.2014	3 883 497	20 027
7.10.2014	3 903 496	20 000
8.10.2014	3 923 468	19 972
9.10.2014	3 943 413	19 945
10.10.2014	3 963 330	19 917
11.10.2014	3 983 220	19 890
12.10.2014	4 003 083	19 863
13.10.2014	4 022 918	19 835
14.10.2014	4 042 726	19 808
15.10.2014	4 062 507	19 781
16.10.2014	4 082 261	19 754
17.10.2014	4 101 987	19 727
18.10.2014	4 121 687	19 700
19.10.2014	4 141 359	19 672
20.10.2014	4 161 005	19 645
21.10.2014	4 180 623	19 618
22.10.2014	4 200 215	19 592
23.10.2014	4 219 780	19 565
24.10.2014	4 239 317	19 538
25.10.2014	4 258 828	19 511
26.10.2014	4 278 312	19 484
27.10.2014	4 297 770	19 457
28.10.2014	4 317 200	19 431
29.10.2014	4 336 604	19 404
30.10.2014	4 355 982	19 377
31.10.2014	4 375 332	19 351
1.11.2014	4 394 657	19 324
2.11.2014	4 413 954	19 298
3.11.2014	4 433 225	19 271
4.11.2014	4 452 470	19 245
5.11.2014	4 471 688	19 218
6.11.2014	4 490 880	19 192
7.11.2014	4 510 045	19 165
8.11.2014	4 529 185	19 139
9.11.2014	4 548 297	19 113
10.11.2014	4 567 384	19 087
11.11.2014	4 586 444	19 060
12.11.2014	4 605 479	19 034
13.11.2014	4 624 487	19 008
14.11.2014	4 643 469	18 982
15.11.2014	4 662 425	18 956
16.11.2014	4 681 355	18 930
17.11.2014	4 700 258	18 904
18.11.2014	4 719 136	18 878
19.11.2014	4 737 988	18 852
20.11.2014	4 756 814	18 826
21.11.2014	4 775 615	18 800
22.11.2014	4 794 389	18 774
23.11.2014	4 813 138	18 749
24.11.2014	4 831 861	18 723
25.11.2014	4 850 558	18 697
26.11.2014	4 869 229	18 672
27.11.2014	4 887 875	18 646
28.11.2014	4 906 496	18 620
29.11.2014	4 925 090	18 595
30.11.2014	4 943 659	18 569
1.12.2014	4 962 203	18 544
2.12.2014	4 980 721	18 518
3.12.2014	4 999 214	18 493
4.12.2014	5 017 681	18 467
5.12.2014	5 036 123	18 442
6.12.2014	5 054 540	18 417
7.12.2014	5 072 932	18 391
8.12.2014	5 091 298	18 366
9.12.2014	5 109 639	18 341
10.12.2014	5 127 954	18 316
11.12.2014	5 146 245	18 291
12.12.2014	5 164 510	18 265
13.12.2014	5 182 751	18 240
14.12.2014	5 200 966	18 215
15.12.2014	5 219 156	18 190
16.12.2014	5 237 322	18 165
17.12.2014	5 255 462	18 140
18.12.2014	5 273 578	18 115
19.12.2014	5 291 668	18 091
20.12.2014	5 309 734	18 066
21.12.2014	5 327 775	18 041
22.12.2014	5 345 791	18 016
23.12.2014	5 363 782	17 991
24.12.2014	5 381 749	17 967
25.12.2014	5 399 691	17 942
26.12.2014	5 417 609	17 917
27.12.2014	5 435 501	17 893
28.12.2014	5 453 370	17 868
29.12.2014	5 471 213	17 844
30.12.2014	5 489 032	17 819
31.12.2014	5 506 827	17 795
1.1.2015	5 524 597	17 770
2.1.2015	5 542 343	17 746
3.1.2015	5 560 065	17 721
4.1.2015	5 577 762	17 697
5.1.2015	5 595 435	17 673
6.1.2015	5 613 083	17 649
7.1.2015	5 630 708	17 624
8.1.2015	5 648 308	17 600
9.1.2015	5 665 884	17 576
10.1.2015	5 683 436	17 552
11.1.2015	5 700 963	17 528
12.1.2015	5 718 467	17 504
13.1.2015	5 735 947	17 480
14.1.2015	5 753 402	17 456
15.1.2015	5 770 834	17 432
16.1.2015	5 788 242	17 408
17.1.2015	5 805 626	17 384
18.1.2015	5 822 985	17 360
19.1.2015	5 840 322	17 336
20.1.2015	5 857 634	17 312
21.1.2015	5 874 922	17 289
22.1.2015	5 892 187	17 265
23.1.2015	5 909 428	17 241
24.1.2015	5 926 646	17 217
25.1.2015	5 943 839	17 194
26.1.2015	5 961 009	17 170
27.1.2015	5 978 156	17 147
28.1.2015	5 995 279	17 123
29.1.2015	6 012 378	17 099
30.1.2015	6 029 454	17 076
31.1.2015	6 046 507	17 053
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2.2.2015	6 080 542	17 006
3.2.2015	6 097 524	16 982
4.2.2015	6 114 483	16 959
5.2.2015	6 131 419	16 936
6.2.2015	6 148 332	16 913
7.2.2015	6 165 221	16 889
8.2.2015	6 182 087	16 866
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11.2.2015	6 232 547	16 797
12.2.2015	6 249 320	16 774
13.2.2015	6 266 071	16 751
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27.2.2015	6 498 178	16 431
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2.3.2015	6 547 337	16 364
3.3.2015	6 563 679	16 341
4.3.2015	6 579 998	16 319
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6.3.2015	6 612 568	16 274
7.3.2015	6 628 820	16 252
8.3.2015	6 645 049	16 229
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10.3.2015	6 677 442	16 185
11.3.2015	6 693 604	16 163
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30.3.2015	6 996 512	15 746
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2.4.2015	7 043 621	15 681
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4.4.2015	7 074 919	15 638
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6.4.2015	7 106 131	15 595
7.4.2015	7 121 705	15 574
8.4.2015	7 137 258	15 553
9.4.2015	7 152 789	15 531
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11.4.2015	7 183 788	15 489
12.4.2015	7 199 255	15 467
13.4.2015	7 214 701	15 446
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16.4.2015	7 260 912	15 383
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18.4.2015	7 291 614	15 340
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20.4.2015	7 322 231	15 298
21.4.2015	7 337 508	15 277
22.4.2015	7 352 765	15 256
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24.4.2015	7 383 214	15 214
25.4.2015	7 398 408	15 193
26.4.2015	7 413 580	15 173
27.4.2015	7 428 732	15 152
28.4.2015	7 443 863	15 131
29.4.2015	7 458 973	15 110
30.4.2015	7 474 063	15 089
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2.5.2015	7 504 179	15 048
3.5.2015	7 519 207	15 027
4.5.2015	7 534 213	15 007
5.5.2015	7 549 199	14 986
6.5.2015	7 564 165	14 966
7.5.2015	7 579 110	14 945
8.5.2015	7 594 034	14 924
9.5.2015	7 608 938	14 904
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11.5.2015	7 638 685	14 863
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13.5.2015	7 668 349	14 822
14.5.2015	7 683 151	14 802
15.5.2015	7 697 933	14 782
16.5.2015	7 712 694	14 761
17.5.2015	7 727 435	14 741
18.5.2015	7 742 156	14 721
19.5.2015	7 756 856	14 701
20.5.2015	7 771 537	14 680
21.5.2015	7 786 197	14 660
22.5.2015	7 800 837	14 640
23.5.2015	7 815 457	14 620
24.5.2015	7 830 057	14 600
25.5.2015	7 844 636	14 580
26.5.2015	7 859 196	14 560
27.5.2015	7 873 736	14 540
28.5.2015	7 888 256	14 520
29.5.2015	7 902 756	14 500
30.5.2015	7 917 236	14 480
31.5.2015	7 931 696	14 460
1.6.2015	7 946 136	14 440
2.6.2015	7 960 556	14 420
3.6.2015	7 974 957	14 401
4.6.2015	7 989 338	14 381
5.6.2015	8 003 699	14 361
6.6.2015	8 018 040	14 341
7.6.2015	8 032 362	14 322
8.6.2015	8 046 664	14 302
9.6.2015	8 060 946	14 282
10.6.2015	8 075 209	14 263
11.6.2015	8 089 452	14 243
12.6.2015	8 103 676	14 224
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28.11.2016	13 488 256	6 819
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3.12.2016	13 522 209	6 772
4.12.2016	13 528 972	6 763
5.12.2016	13 535 726	6 754
6.12.2016	13 542 470	6 744
7.12.2016	13 549 205	6 735
8.12.2016	13 555 931	6 726
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1.1.2017	13 714 607	6 508
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I am a long term supporter of xmr and I see the niche for this currency as well as the quality of development but I have concerns that we can keep pace with inflation in terms of 6-12 months at given prices under certain circumstances.

At given prices (~0.0035) approximately 21000 BTC or at given dollar prices 10 Million $ have to be invested in xmr over the next 12 months to keep the price stable.

My first assumption, and this is debatable is that bitcoins network effect and probably the price behaves exponential over the course of time.

My second assumption is that xmr is a far more risky investment than btc, from a) the perspective of network effects and b) the economic circumstances e.g. inflation rate and c) the stage of development. If we compare the inflation rate of xmr to btcs inflation rate we see that the inflation has a factor of 20 compared to btc.

What is unclear to me is if there are strong or even overly strong overlapping effects from bitcoins network effects on xmr. Maybe I completely underestimate xmrs' network effects

My problem at given prices and given assumption is risk/reward ratio for investors given the alternative to hold btc.

I can be horribly wrong with this analysis but that would be good for me

 

[drawingthesun]

At given prices (~0.0035) approximately 21000 BTC or at given dollar prices 10 Million $ have to be invested in xmr over the next 12 months to keep the price stable.

Litecoin will require at least $20,000,000 in the same time period to remain where it currently is, and that is after having a cap of over a hundred million $.

If Monero starts getting accepted by the community as the default anonymous coin and as second place to Bitcoin, $10,000,000 to sustain the current price is nothing.

[nakaone]

At given prices (~0.0035) approximately 21000 BTC or at given dollar prices 10 Million $ have to be invested in xmr over the next 12 months to keep the price stable.

Litecoin will require at least $20,000,000 in the same time period to remain where it currently is, and that is after having a cap of over a hundred million $.

If Monero starts getting accepted by the community as the default anonymous coin and as second place to Bitcoin, $10,000,000 to sustain the current price is nothing.

litecoin is out of debate (for me it is overvalued crap, which at best solves the function to be an insurance for a 51% attack on btc or something similiar).

it is just the comparison of xmr and btc.

[drawingthesun]

At given prices (~0.0035) approximately 21000 BTC or at given dollar prices 10 Million $ have to be invested in xmr over the next 12 months to keep the price stable.

Litecoin will require at least $20,000,000 in the same time period to remain where it currently is, and that is after having a cap of over a hundred million $.

If Monero starts getting accepted by the community as the default anonymous coin and as second place to Bitcoin, $10,000,000 to sustain the current price is nothing.

litecoin is out of debate (for me it is overvalued crap, which at best solves the function to be an insurance for a 51% attack on btc or something similiar).

it is just the comparison of xmr and btc.

That makes things more interesting!

Bitcoin requires about $1.8 million per day to sustain its price, If Monero attracted x% of that investment as being the only true alternative to Bitcoin because of its completely different purpose and design, then we could sustain a price of y.

x = 1%, y = 0.0021
x = 5%, y = 0.01

I might have messed up my math {
- sustain bitcoin @ $500 for a year = $650mil
- xmr coins now 2.9 mil - xmr coins in a year 9 mil = 6.1 mil xmr coins.
- get percent of bitcoin investment per year. so 5% = $32mil
- amount @ 5% = $32mil / price of bitcoin @ $500 / amount of XMR coins = y
}

But it seems to work out that if Monero captures 1% of Bitcoin investment, then we are looking at 0.002 which is a disaster, but 5% would be very high at 0.01

I honestly believe that capturing 3% - 5% of the money going into Bitcoin is certainly possible.

[rpietila]

At given prices (~0.0035) approximately 21000 BTC or at given dollar prices 10 Million $ have to be invested in xmr over the next 12 months to keep the price stable.

Oh you of little math & logic!

What you are saying, essentially, is that in the course of 12 months, Monero the currency, can only accommodate new buyers by $10 million without the price increasing, potentially a lot.

The inflation has been decreasing from the day 1, the adoption has been increasing, and the price is roughly 15 times higher than in the inception, and about 3 times higher than the Cryptonote Exchange era.

[nakaone]

At given prices (~0.0035) approximately 21000 BTC or at given dollar prices 10 Million $ have to be invested in xmr over the next 12 months to keep the price stable.

Oh you of little math & logic!

you have to put in the context to the other assumptions

What you are saying, essentially, is that in the course of 12 months, Monero the currency, can only accommodate new buyers by $10 million without the price increasing, potentially a lot.

well glass is half full or half empty - but yes one can see it from this perspective

The inflation has been decreasing from the day 1, the adoption has been increasing, and the price is roughly 15 times higher than in the inception, and about 3 times higher than the Cryptonote Exchange era.

the price development is quite irrelevant, especially from inception. nxt has a price of 3 million times the cap of the inception, obv. there are not as many users compared to the price delopment. given altcoins nature xmrs price devlopment until now is even moderate (which is good)

adoption is what matters - if and really IF this is increasing at a good pace, CONSTANTLY (do you have assumptions how important a constant new influx of users is?) we can take your assumption.

I think the user base is already, compared to other coins quite big. Every rational investors, given inflation design, buys monero as early as possible. For several natural reasons the development of user base is non-constant over time and there is obviously a lot of space for new maybe little less tech savyy user to join us at a later point of time.

I think drawingthesun offered a good mathematical analysis.

[dEBRUYNE]

Since the speculation thread is closed, can we discuss some of it here?

[rpietila]

Since the speculation thread is closed, can we discuss some of it here?

Oh no. Perhaps you can, but only quality comments please.

[dEBRUYNE]

Since the speculation thread is closed, can we discuss some of it here?

Oh no. Perhaps you can, but only quality comments please.

Haha oke! It was not my intention to troll here :p But on topic: strong resistance @ 0.004 zone, need to break that first. I think we will see some panic buying if we break that zone.

EDIT: Aminorex also said that 0.004 was a potential buy zone, because if it would reach there the cup and handle formation would be complete

[dEBRUYNE]

Posted in another topic, also relates to monero:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggB0Wh_g33M&feature=youtu.be&t=24m30s

Antonopoulos about people switch to anonymous currencies if NY regs stick.