[ANN][FAIR] FairCoin - for a fair economy, featuring proof-of-cooperation

[smartaction]

Article for promote voting FairCoop in Ouishare fest

http://magazine.ouishare.net/2015/05/vote-for-faircoop-ouishare-awards-2015-nominee/

[Djentriser]

any guess where are those money coming from?

[aaronjobs]

Would be also great to .. at some point .. get out of bittrex.

But then how would we know what the market price is ? And also the market needs to stay open.
So unless FAIR gets it's own exchange, I don't see any way around the exchanges.
Or do you have an alternative ?

I was actually thinking that we should now try to get on more exchanges than just Bittrex, to be less dependant on one exchange and to increase the volumes.

What do the rest of you think ?

I agree with you,get out of bittrex is not a good choice, and why?
I agree that Fair should reach more exchanges, more exchanges, and more people will know Fair,also more people will buy and keep Fair, as I know,there is very few people talk about fair in China since Mintpal was closed. many people even don't know that Fair have born again.

btw, I will try to contact exchanges in China, like http://www.bter.com and http://www.btc38.com, also maybe http://www.jubi.com

aye, please do not touch to bter... they are anonymous scammer.

i contacted bter before..but they dont give a shit...they just busy dying.

i am a chinese,but i think maybe it's a good thing to keep away from chinese at this moment....because most of chinese just want pump and dump.it may hurt FAIR at this very beginning
i think we should keep our eyes away from the price,and focus of the movement to make FAIR more useful..just like build fairmarket, using faircoin.

To create qualitative attention in china the better step could be to translate fair.coop site to chinese mandarin. There are a bounty of 20000 Faircoin for that:   https://fair.coop/groups/faircoop-community/bounties-rewarding-projects-85590309/forum/topic/1-2-3-translate-the-faircoop-site-to-chinese-mandarin-arabic-rusian/

I could do this job, I will have a try.

[aaronjobs]

Would be also great to .. at some point .. get out of bittrex.

But then how would we know what the market price is ? And also the market needs to stay open.
So unless FAIR gets it's own exchange, I don't see any way around the exchanges.
Or do you have an alternative ?

I was actually thinking that we should now try to get on more exchanges than just Bittrex, to be less dependant on one exchange and to increase the volumes.

What do the rest of you think ?

I agree with you,get out of bittrex is not a good choice, and why?
I agree that Fair should reach more exchanges, more exchanges, and more people will know Fair,also more people will buy and keep Fair, as I know,there is very few people talk about fair in China since Mintpal was closed. many people even don't know that Fair have born again.

btw, I will try to contact exchanges in China, like http://www.bter.com and http://www.btc38.com, also maybe http://www.jubi.com

aye, please do not touch to bter... they are anonymous scammer.

i contacted bter before..but they dont give a shit...they just busy dying.

i am a chinese,but i think maybe it's a good thing to keep away from chinese at this moment....because most of chinese just want pump and dump.it may hurt FAIR at this very beginning
i think we should keep our eyes away from the price,and focus of the movement to make FAIR more useful..just like build fairmarket, using faircoin.

yes, keep away from Chinese will make Fair less speculative, most of Chinese don't care the future of a coin, they just pump and dump and make profit from, but there are also many Chinese like me, want do something for virtual currencies ,not just for speculating.
 I think let Fair be listed in China exchanges will definitely make much more people know Fair

[smartaction]

any guess where are those money coming from?

Perhaps around 70% of the money comes from Spain investors and 30% are distributed around...

And yes, comes from people that feels that faircoin is a good way for put some savings with ethics... 
or also people that put lower amount to have some faircoins to test and perhaps spend in the future..

[matthewh3]

https://fair.coop/docs/new-faircoop-startup-p2p-equity-crowdfunding-and-liquidity-fund/

7. Coopshares Investment Fund (CIF)

We will build an investment fund that will distribute funds and the associated risk between a large number of projects that will crowdinvest themselves using the Coopshares P2P Equity Platform.

This will be a way to make sure that interesting projects will be funded having been chosen and accepted within the Coopshares Platform. The distribution made by the CIF will also decrease risk by simultaneously promoting many projects, in a similar way to that which investment funds work within the official financial system, but adapted towards the commons and based on open cooperative projects.

The Coopshares members will be able to decide which projects will be funded in a democratic way. Some rules will be necessary in order to manage the risk, for example not to invest more than 5% of the fund in any single project.

https://fair.coop/docs/new-faircoop-startup-p2p-equity-crowdfunding-and-liquidity-fund/

This sounds very interesting and I'll probably be investing at least 50% of my (now relatively valuable) FairCoin holdings into it.  I'm glad I put the relatively very little bitcoin into FairCoin that I did.  It's currently worth at least x10 what I paid 

[smartaction]

The price in getfaircoin.net has moved from 1 € = 35 FAIR to 1 € = 32 FAIR

With this new change we abandone the practice  about 5 numbers move at a time and begin to use smallers numbers...

This is a change to get closer to the price of bittrex, because we chosed not to applicate only in one day the big change of bittrex from yesterday.
Meanwhile bittrex and bitcoin has been stable and the volume in getfaircoin.net still in saturday is being sustained in the upwards trend showed in the graphics

[Sebastien256]

It would be nice to try to get a place into this index (dow jones of crypto):
http://coinoindex.com/
However, I think getfaircoin and fairtoearth might need an API where both daily volume and exchange price moving average could be obtain. Bittrex volume is not enought for the moment, I think.

That fund from coinomat could hold faircoin as an indirect investment from Nxt asset exchange. Note that each cryptocurrency will hold the same weights in the fund.

Since a couple of weeks and more than one time, I have asked for the true volume of faircoin because I think that this is important for a coin for everyone to know. Now, I think this is a good opportunity to set this up correctly from the faircoop backend so that this info can be obtain in realtime.

This would increase the visibility of faircoin in the cryptosphere.

Edit: Investment from investors on Nxt asset exchange can be quite large sometime. So faircoin could get up to 1/20 of this.

[smartaction]

It would be nice to try to get a place into this index (dow jones of crypto):
http://coinoindex.com/
However, I think getfaircoin and fairtoearth might need an API where both daily volume and exchange price moving average could be obtain. Bittrex volume is not enought for the moment, I think.

That fund from coinomat could hold faircoin as an indirect investment from Nxt asset exchange. Note that each cryptocurrency will hold the same weights in the fund.

Since a couple of weeks and more than one time, I have asked for the true volume of faircoin because I think that this is important for a coin for everyone to know. Now, I think this is a good opportunity to set this up correctly from the faircoop backend so that this info can be obtain in realtime.

This would increase the visibility of faircoin in the cryptosphere.

Edit: Investment from investors on Nxt asset exchange can be quite large sometime. So faircoin could get up to 1/20 of this.

Getfaircoin.net volume can not be got in realtime because it would give adventage to short time traders related the getfaircoin funds, because we need days to move the funds that we receive in getfaircoin...  so this is not going to happen...

Otherwise, anyway by our current trend and growth in some weeks you will have this daily 1000 $ minimal in bittrex

Volume in Bittrex right now is not more bigger, because there are very few sellers !!

[gadado]

This would increase the visibility of faircoin in the cryptosphere.

Edit: Investment from investors on Nxt asset exchange can be quite large sometime. So faircoin could get up to 1/20 of this.

I have my doubts that an increased visibility of a cryptocoin is a postive thing. Look back to all the coins that enjoyed height visibility. They are all strugeling. Hardly any cryptocoin that became a ball of the crypto speculation has any value anymore.

If you see how extremly well this coin is doing and how every other well known coin is strugleing than maybe.. just maybe the lesser visibility is a contributive factor in it's success.

Nxt asset's are pure speculation objects. This coin is the oposite. If FairMarket becomes reality the coin has a real value.

[Sebastien256]

Nxt asset's are pure speculation objects.

Don't put them all in the same basket. Do your due diligence.

[smartaction]

The getfaircoin price has moved from 1 € = 32 Fair to 1 € = 28 Fair

This is a 12,5 % increase for today in getfaircoin.net, similar change that we have seen in bittrex.com to reach more than 18000 satoshis for yet another all times high. Still in weekend the purchases in getfaircoin has been high and the sell offers in bittrex are very few, so the only way that we can do to look
for more sells is to continue exploring new prices...

[cryptochris88]

Hello was inactive around here for some time because of some personal reasons...
With regards to faircoins lost to mintpal, can I still recover it or is it gone for good?
It seems like the link sent to me via email has expired... :/

[idandeal]

What are going to be in Paris?

[bonipper]

Hello was inactive around here for some time because of some personal reasons...
With regards to faircoins lost to mintpal, can I still recover it or is it gone for good?
It seems like the link sent to me via email has expired... :/

There was a coin swap some time ago, so I don't know if its possible to get faircoins lost to mintpal back anymore.

[smartaction]

What are going to be in Paris?

Ouishare Fest. The biggest world event of the collaborative economy with FairCoop invited in different ways.
- I will do an online conference on thursday 21, 12.45  http://ouisharefest2015.sched.org/event/03523ab76b30b20ab7f14888f28c3afb?iframe=yes&w=i:100;&sidebar=yes&bg=no  Title FairCoop: Building a new economic system
- Three fairCoop members will be there to make contacts and future partnerships
- FairCoop is nominated to receive the collaborative financing awards
You can vote online until 21 here:  http://awards.ouishare.net/2015/vote/

See more http://2015.ouisharefest.com

[cryptonikus]

So if someone still has conis from free distribution in his old faircoin wallet, they are lost?
Is there way to reclaim them?

[smartaction]

Hello was inactive around here for some time because of some personal reasons...
With regards to faircoins lost to mintpal, can I still recover it or is it gone for good?
It seems like the link sent to me via email has expired... :/

There was a coin swap some time ago, so I don't know if its possible to get faircoins lost to mintpal back anymore.

Correct is not possible. The reason for that is because we received from mintpal less coins that was supposed to be , and we distrubuted all that with a registration form was expired a long time ago. After the registation process we had a -2M balance and we recovered that coins with part of unused coins in the swap of february.

So there are not coins for redistribute after that and you can consider lost that coins.
You can read the whole history on the bitcointalk forum https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=702675.0

[smartaction]

So if someone still has conis from free distribution in his old faircoin wallet, they are lost?
Is there way to reclaim them?

This is a different question, that has nothing to do with mintpal.
If you had coins in the old blockchain, you can update right now because the wallet.dat of both blockchains are compatibles.

upgrade last version here: https://www.fair-coin.org/#wallet and
see that link for details:  http://fair-coin.org/faircoin-v1.5.0.html

If after your upgrade your coins has been moved for being unused coins you can claim that coins in support@fair-coin.org

[smartaction]

One of the bounties launched is about redesign of fair-coin.org website

See here, the first achievements ->  http://faircoin.imaxinaria.org/

and feel free to add your opinions ->  https://fair.coop/groups/faircoop-community/bounties-rewarding-projects-85590309/forum/topic/12-re-design-of-the-fair-coin-org-website/