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October 03, 2014, 05:31:51 PM
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If there was an active bet, it wont have gone to 89k.....eventually you will loose, stay away from it.

The crash point is decided before any betting happens, and its hash is shown to all players.

stay away from it.

try it yourself! Goodluck!

Your advice seems contradictory. Should I stay away or try it myself?

You're merging my replies from 2 different posts. I had no intention to spread fud or talk bad about it, I just generally said that.

Whoever says they won the greed will take them back to money pot and as I said eventually you will loose, I have lost good amount of BTC, having said that I am not saying that I never won I did but played again and again and eventually lost.

Your 2 posts were both referring to moneypot as 'it', and offering contradictory advice about it.

The first post seemed to be alleging that the game cheats and only picks high crash points if nobody is playing. Maybe that's not what you were saying. If so, do you stand by your accusation? And if not, what did you mean by that?

moneypot is one of the few bitcoin games out there where the odds can actually be in your favour if you play smart. There's no guarantee that you will eventually lose.

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October 04, 2014, 04:56:16 AM
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Since everyone constantly asked me about my stats, here it is:

https://www.moneypot.com/stats
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October 04, 2014, 05:05:07 AM
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Since everyone constantly asked me about my stats, here it is:

https://www.moneypot.com/stats

Nice.

The word "number" in "Players won in total: number" seems like a typo.

And you should include "given away as comps / promotions" too, and show the net profit after that (because I think you probably gave more than half and maybe all your profit away to people in the chat...)

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October 04, 2014, 05:17:56 AM
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In the process of doing a review on your site + I've played a little bit!  Very awesome site from my first intro to it.

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October 04, 2014, 05:19:29 AM
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Since everyone constantly asked me about my stats, here it is:

https://www.moneypot.com/stats

This is fantastic, thanks for posting. Is this a static page you published for this once, or is it something that updates in real time or occasionally?

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October 04, 2014, 05:28:35 AM
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This is fantastic, thanks for posting. Is this a static page you published for this once, or is it something that updates in real time or occasionally?

It's a dynamically generated page, but has a 5 minute cache. If you are not logged in, however, the CDN will cache the page as well. I created an issue for it and will fix tomorrow.


The word "number" in "Players won in total: number" seems like a typo.
Indeed. Thanks. Fixed in master.

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And you should include "given away as comps / promotions" too, and show the net profit after that (because I think you probably gave more than half and maybe all your profit away to people in the chat...)

Then everyone will ask for it Sad And to be fair, most of the comps were due to alleged UI bugs, which have now been fixed. I am no longer giving them out so freely. Also, if we're being pedantic 63.94%
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October 04, 2014, 12:00:47 PM
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very interesting , its awesome just doubt on fair though
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October 04, 2014, 02:06:17 PM
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very interesting , its awesome just doubt on fair though

Why would you doubt it's fair? The profit margins are smaller than razor thin. If he was cheating, you'd expect them to be higher.

Didn't Doog run an analysis of the site code or something to determine it was fair? I remember seeing an analysis of something that concluded that the site runs as advertised.

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October 04, 2014, 02:14:42 PM
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Nice site, but currently the last 7 games have 2 crashed at 1x. Coincidence?
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October 04, 2014, 02:22:19 PM
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The source code is available on GitHub and the games are provably fair. If you don't trust him/the website, don't play. It's that easy Roll Eyes

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October 04, 2014, 02:24:08 PM
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Nice site, but currently the last 7 games have 2 crashed at 1x. Coincidence?

Yeah, pretty much exactly that. You took 7 data points out of, at current count, 621995 data points, and drew an overarching conclusion from your ridiculously small sample size.

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October 04, 2014, 10:48:22 PM
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can you reduce the faucet time to if minutes please and whats up with all those x1's ?
i deposited and lost it all

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October 04, 2014, 10:53:15 PM
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how much do you earn per day? and i will be starting a faucet soon and i am willing to get an ad for moneypot on it, pm me if u are willing to get the add slot

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October 04, 2014, 11:45:08 PM
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If there was an active bet, it wont have gone to 89k.....eventually you will loose, stay away from it.

The crash point is decided before any betting happens, and its hash is shown to all players.

stay away from it.

try it yourself! Goodluck!

Your advice seems contradictory. Should I stay away or try it myself?

You're merging my replies from 2 different posts. I had no intention to spread fud or talk bad about it, I just generally said that.

Whoever says they won the greed will take them back to money pot and as I said eventually you will loose, I have lost good amount of BTC, having said that I am not saying that I never won I did but played again and again and eventually lost.

Your 2 posts were both referring to moneypot as 'it', and offering contradictory advice about it.

The first post seemed to be alleging that the game cheats and only picks high crash points if nobody is playing. Maybe that's not what you were saying. If so, do you stand by your accusation? And if not, what did you mean by that?

moneypot is one of the few bitcoin games out there where the odds can actually be in your favour if you play smart. There's no guarantee that you will eventually lose.
What do you mean? As a casino game I assume it has a house edge and thus makes you lose. What do you mean you can play "smart" and never run out of funds? Makes no sense.

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October 05, 2014, 12:17:54 AM
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If there was an active bet, it wont have gone to 89k.....eventually you will loose, stay away from it.

The crash point is decided before any betting happens, and its hash is shown to all players.

stay away from it.

try it yourself! Goodluck!

Your advice seems contradictory. Should I stay away or try it myself?

You're merging my replies from 2 different posts. I had no intention to spread fud or talk bad about it, I just generally said that.

Whoever says they won the greed will take them back to money pot and as I said eventually you will loose, I have lost good amount of BTC, having said that I am not saying that I never won I did but played again and again and eventually lost.

Your 2 posts were both referring to moneypot as 'it', and offering contradictory advice about it.

The first post seemed to be alleging that the game cheats and only picks high crash points if nobody is playing. Maybe that's not what you were saying. If so, do you stand by your accusation? And if not, what did you mean by that?

moneypot is one of the few bitcoin games out there where the odds can actually be in your favour if you play smart. There's no guarantee that you will eventually lose.
What do you mean? As a casino game I assume it has a house edge and thus makes you lose. What do you mean you can play "smart" and never run out of funds? Makes no sense.

The house edge is razor thin. If you were only playing against the house, you would lose over time like normal, even with a razor thin edge. However, this game is different in that you are also playing against other players. If you continually beat other players, it is possible to overcome the house edge.

In short (and anyone point out where I go wrong), each round it is possible to earn a bonus for being one of the longest lasting players in the round. The bonus pot is 1% of all the bits bet in the round. The player who lasts longest in the round without busting gets the first crack at the bonus pot. If there is anything left in the bonus pot after the longest lasting player has been paid, the second longest lasting player is paid. And so on and so forth until all the bits in the bonus pot have been paid out. So by continuously outlasting other players, but without busting, you can win enough bonus that makes it possible to overcome the house edge. It's a mesh of skill and strategy to outwit other players playing the game.

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October 05, 2014, 05:15:54 AM
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Everytime I go to this site it never connects to the server. It pisses me off now that I sent a small bit of BTC to play the game and now I can't play it...
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October 05, 2014, 05:59:52 AM
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What do you mean? As a casino game I assume it has a house edge and thus makes you lose. What do you mean you can play "smart" and never run out of funds? Makes no sense.

Did you even look at the site?

The very first paragraph of the strategy guide talks about how the game can be +EV.

Do you understand how if you're good at poker you can overcome the rake, long term? This is the same thing, only the game is simpler.

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October 05, 2014, 06:27:51 AM
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Dooglus - thanks.

Is moneypot working for anyone? It still won't connect for the server for me in google chrome.
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October 05, 2014, 06:31:49 AM
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Dooglus - thanks.

Is moneypot working for anyone? It still won't connect for the server for me in google chrome.

I'm connected right now:

https://i.imgur.com/BOKUonk.png

Maybe try deleting cookies, using a different browser, clearing your cache? Something like that?

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October 05, 2014, 06:49:19 AM
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Tried every browser (Chrome, Firefox, Safari), cleared all cookies + caches and still won't go past the "connecting to server" page once logged in. WTF.
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