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August 08, 2017, 04:14:54 AM
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Tezos can instanciate any blockchain based protocol. Its seed protocol speci es a procedure for stakeholders to approve amendments to the proto- col, including amendments to the amendment procedure itself. Upgrades to Tezos are staged through a testing environment to allow stakeholders to recall potentially problematic amendments.
The key benefits of Tezos are:
 - A governance mechanism that permits innovation at the protocol level through self-amendments. It means stakeholder can choose to incorporate or reject various innovations. They could introduce new types of transactions, new assets or even change the consensus protocol itself.
- A formally specified smart-contract language
- Good design in general
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August 08, 2017, 08:37:47 AM
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Tezos can instanciate any blockchain based protocol. Its seed protocol speci es a procedure for stakeholders to approve amendments to the proto- col, including amendments to the amendment procedure itself. Upgrades to Tezos are staged through a testing environment to allow stakeholders to recall potentially problematic amendments.
The key benefits of Tezos are:
 - A governance mechanism that permits innovation at the protocol level through self-amendments. It means stakeholder can choose to incorporate or reject various innovations. They could introduce new types of transactions, new assets or even change the consensus protocol itself.
- A formally specified smart-contract language
- Good design in general
All these things are a bit too hard to understand for just a random person (investor, whatsoever), too technical.
Article bringing light to Tezos https://medium.com/@linda.xie/a-beginners-guide-to-tezos-c9618240183f is a bit less formal yet needs brain effort to get the idea.
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August 08, 2017, 01:56:13 PM
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I was wondering if there is any new from the Tezos team/project, I checked the website, twitter, and here. didn't find anything and didn't hear anything since the ico (if there's another outlet for info please let me know).
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August 08, 2017, 02:25:51 PM
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I was wondering if there is any new from the Tezos team/project, I checked the website, twitter, and here. didn't find anything and didn't hear anything since the ico (if there's another outlet for info please let me know).
Cheers.

You've got an answer directly from Cathleen Breitman: "The next three or four months you are probably going to hear a bit from the dev team, but the next month or so it will heads down and getting the right people at the table"

Some interesting Tezos-related articles appear from time to time.

Like this, published today http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/hard-forks-contract-hacks-tezos-aims-solve-blockchains-problems-1633790

"you need to start with proof of stake [PoS] because proof of work creates a political class or miners whose interest may differ from token holders" - this is one of the key success factors
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August 08, 2017, 02:45:43 PM
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I was wondering if there is any new from the Tezos team/project, I checked the website, twitter, and here. didn't find anything and didn't hear anything since the ico (if there's another outlet for info please let me know).
Cheers.

You've got an answer directly from Cathleen Breitman: "The next three or four months you are probably going to hear a bit from the dev team, but the next month or so it will heads down and getting the right people at the table"

Some interesting Tezos-related articles appear from time to time.

Like this, published today http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/hard-forks-contract-hacks-tezos-aims-solve-blockchains-problems-1633790

"you need to start with proof of stake [PoS] because proof of work creates a political class or miners whose interest may differ from token holders" - this is one of the key success factors


Thanks!
Will keep my eye open for more info as it is released in due time.
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August 08, 2017, 03:12:19 PM
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Join their "riot" channel for more info:
https://riot.im/app/#/room/#tezos:matrix.org
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August 10, 2017, 07:25:06 AM
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If Tezos is live in October-November, as promised, this is gonna be just in time.
 
People start finally to understand that BTC is a pure scam, the recent hard-fork is gonna be the last one. It's obvious that greedy Chinese miners just wanted to get a little bit more rich. It's just unimaginable: you've had 1000 BTC before hardfork, and after it you've got 1000 BTC + 1000 BCH. 500k $ just from nothing! Kill me please if it's not a scam.

Tezos has all the chances to become #1 crypto-currency in the World.
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August 11, 2017, 05:59:42 AM
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If Tezos is live in October-November, as promised, this is gonna be just in time.
 
People start finally to understand that BTC is a pure scam, the recent hard-fork is gonna be the last one. It's obvious that greedy Chinese miners just wanted to get a little bit more rich. It's just unimaginable: you've had 1000 BTC before hardfork, and after it you've got 1000 BTC + 1000 BCH. 500k $ just from nothing! Kill me please if it's not a scam.

Tezos has all the chances to become #1 crypto-currency in the World.

I don't understand why it's a scam move, I'm altcoin holder so don't get BCH but I didn't bought it and will never buy it because of this reason: what I don't understand that ppl buys and give some price to a coin that others get for free ^^
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August 11, 2017, 08:48:51 AM
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August Update
Dear Tezos supporters,

Your commitment to Tezos has made history, raising an unprecedented $232 million in our two-week fundraiser. Your support is instrumental to fulfilling the vision we outlined and started building towards in 2014.

The success of the fundraiser represents an important milestone for Tezos. Yet our work has only just begun. In this update, we’ll share some important new developments, as well as a bit of information about our longer-term vision and roadmap.

$50 Million Venture Capital for Developers and Startups
We are extremely pleased to announce a commitment of $50 million in venture capital funding to companies looking to build on the Tezos platform. This capital will be partially deployed through venture capital partners to be announced, as well as through a direct venture arm. The innovation and growth of the ecosystem is the top priority of the Tezos Foundation.

Vision and Roadmap

The Foundation’s large endowment gives it the unique opportunity to bring about new institutions through transformative technology. One of the main benefits that a large treasury affords us is ensuring the longevity of the network. We want to give confidence to application developers and entrepreneurs that the Tezos network is here to stay in the decades to come.

We do not know what challenges lie in the future and therefore we are prudently managing the Foundation’s portfolio to last for decades and through volatile market conditions and deep social changes. Our spending plans will remain conservative and similar to the numbers outlined in the Tezos Overview document published prior to the fundraiser.

Team
The single most important determinant of an organization’s success is its team. So our top priority over the coming months and years is to attract the very best people we can find, and build a world-class, values-driven organization that executes with exceptional effectiveness.

The Tezos Foundation is proud to announce that Jill Carlson has joined our team to lead our business development. In her most recent role, Jill managed partnerships with the likes of Nasdaq and the IMF at Chain. Prior to Chain, Jill worked at Goldman Sachs.

We will soon post career opportunities on the Tezos Foundation’s website at https://tezos.ch.

Development

We have been hard at work on the development of the Tezos ledger. We are currently prioritizing work on the smart contract language, which will let the larger community of developers around Tezos build applications sooner, as the semantic stabilizes. Milo, an intern working on Michelson, has been keeping up an awesome blog at https://www.michelson-lang.com. You may also notice a new emacs mode for Michelson. This mode directly calls the tezos client to show you the type of the stack at every point in your program. Bear in mind that this mode is still highly experimental at the moment.You can follow changes to the codebase on Github.We are growing the development team so please get in touch if you’re a strong OCaml programmer.

Community
Creating productive community spaces and forums will be critical to the long-term growth of Tezos. After the closure of the Slack channel (due to limitations in Slack’s security model which made it unsuitable for our purpose) we looked for an alternative. We found two!

We suggest general chat happen on the matrix network, a modern federated network for decentralized, secure online chat. You can access it using several clients, such as Riot. Technical discussion oriented towards participating in the alpha net (our current testnet) should happen on the #tezos IRC channel, on irc.freenode.net

There are also two unofficial community forums: https://reddit.com/r/tezos and https://www.tezos.community.

The Tezos project website (https://tezos.com) will be updated soon — stay tuned.

Fundraiser follow ups
Diversification & statistics

We published a blog post explaining the diversification strategy for the funds held by the Foundation. So far, we have been slowly converting these assets into cash at a pace of roughly CHF 500 000 per day. We also published a post detailing some statistics regarding the distribution of contributions in the fundraiser.

Bitcoin Cash

Bitcoin Cash is a recent hard-fork of Bitcoin meant to offer a block size increase. This means that for every Bitcoin held by the Tezos Foundation, the Foundation now additionally holds a new “BCH” token. Our current setup for spending Bitcoin contributions does not yet let us spend these new Bitcoin Cash tokens. We do plan on adding this capability and will then proceed to slowly diversify out of them as we are doing with our Bitcoin holdings.

Issue Resolution
From a technical standpoint, the Tezos fundraiser went well — over 99% of contributors had a flawless experience. A small number of contributors experienced issues, which we resolved early on.

Make sure your contribution has been recorded
If you haven’t done so already, please go to https://check.tezos.com/ and make sure your contribution has been properly recorded. If your contribution is not recorded and you contributed with Bitcoin, it’s possible that you did not complete the contribution process. In this case, please email support@tezos.ch and we’ll be happy to assist.

Again, if you haven't done so already, make sure you backup your private key (email + password + 15-word mnemonic). We cannot recover lost mnemonics and lost passwords, and we cannot authenticate contributors without them knowing their private key. The security model of the fundraiser is based on control of the private key and not on contributing addresses which could belong to an exchange or to a third party. Unfortunately, if you lose your mnemonic or your password, your allocation will also be lost. Our recommendation, all things considered, is to write these down and store them in a secure location.

Late and sub-threshold contributions

The Tezos Foundation is committed to serving the best interests of its supporters. So we decided early on that late or sub-threshold contributions could be returned if the contributors so desired. The Tezos development team has been working on developing a secure website allowing these contributors to sign their request with their private key. If this applies to you, please see here for further details.

Sincerely,
the Tezos team
I wonder if we get extra XTZ because of bitcoin cash?
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August 11, 2017, 10:08:39 AM
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I don't think we gonna get some extra XTZ because of bitcoin-cash story as it wasn't explicitely mentioned in the latest release.
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August 11, 2017, 10:23:39 AM
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I don't think we gonna get some extra XTZ because of bitcoin-cash story as it wasn't explicitely mentioned in the latest release.

no way the fork was after ICO the this btc doesn't belong to you, and why you would like to create more XTZ imo there is already too much
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August 11, 2017, 11:09:32 AM
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I don't think we gonna get some extra XTZ because of bitcoin-cash story as it wasn't explicitely mentioned in the latest release.

no way the fork was after ICO the this btc doesn't belong to you, and why you would like to create more XTZ imo there is already too much
I never said I was expecting extra XTZ, read carefully.
The ICO is over and token distribution too.
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August 13, 2017, 01:57:03 PM
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I believe that we are in an era of promoting national coins and nationalism is something that can make one achieve the impossible things if things do tread on one's corns. The team looks determined, the projects looks extensive so I believe that it will surpass many coins' elders.
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August 20, 2017, 05:28:13 PM
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When starts a project and why than it is better then Etherium?

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August 20, 2017, 05:33:16 PM
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When starts a project and why than it is better then Etherium?


Is has some good solutions for Hard fork.
https://medium.com/tezos/there-is-no-need-for-hard-forks-86b68165e67d

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August 24, 2017, 04:02:08 AM
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See website https://www.tezzigator.com for more info and whitepaper

You want to be sure to delegate out to a trusted proven operator. How about a trusted figure who already has over 3 years experience doing this exact same thing, running a delegation system for NXT, another 100% PoS cryptocurrency?

I am the same forkedchain3 from the NXT cryptourrency, and am pleased to announce that I plan to have operational by genesis block, a delegation service with full accounting system for Tezos that will offer the same reliable service and accounting system that I have run the past 3 years for NXT, where I currently forge 7% of all NXT blocks, and have 15M NXT in my pool from a large number of happy users.

The delegation will be fully automated for Tezos just as it has been for NXT, automated pay calculations, automated payouts upon blockchain notification of a NXT message, and Ill also be adding stats on lifetime payouts per account! You will absolutely love how simple and seemless this will be for you.

Here is my NXT pool accounts info from a NXT block explorer, and you can view the pool stats itself here: http://198.211.103.222/status.php

And with NXT’s announcement of Ardor, I have even ported my system to the new Ardor cryptocurrency. Ardor is still not yet released and is in testnet, and I have my system running on their testnet at http://theardorpool.dynu.net/Status

I hope to quickly and justfully gain the trust of the Tezos community just as I have for NXT, and will be proud to share out proportionally in fees and nondilutionary inflation that my Tezos pool service will gain.

I now have a website up with a good amount of information on baking/staking/delegation, and also has a whitepaper describing the architecture that I am building. https://www.tezzigator.com
Enjoy!
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August 24, 2017, 05:31:46 AM
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Anyone in here knows and can explain what is that XTZ/BTC about that is traded over HitBTC exchange? https://hitbtc.com/exchange/XTZ-to-BTC
I know that the tezos network will be released in about 3 months from now and i wonder how can someone already trade XTZ tokens oven an exchange. Thanks!
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August 24, 2017, 06:11:56 AM
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Anyone in here knows and can explain what is that XTZ/BTC about that is traded over HitBTC exchange? https://hitbtc.com/exchange/XTZ-to-BTC
I know that the tezos network will be released in about 3 months from now and i wonder how can someone already trade XTZ tokens oven an exchange. Thanks!
this is called a 'Futures Contract'
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August 24, 2017, 06:15:49 AM
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See website https://www.tezzigator.com for more info and whitepaper

You want to be sure to delegate out to a trusted proven operator. How about a trusted figure who already has over 3 years experience doing this exact same thing, running a delegation system for NXT, another 100% PoS cryptocurrency?

I am the same forkedchain3 from the NXT cryptourrency, and am pleased to announce that I plan to have operational by genesis block, a delegation service with full accounting system for Tezos that will offer the same reliable service and accounting system that I have run the past 3 years for NXT, where I currently forge 7% of all NXT blocks, and have 15M NXT in my pool from a large number of happy users.

The delegation will be fully automated for Tezos just as it has been for NXT, automated pay calculations, automated payouts upon blockchain notification of a NXT message, and Ill also be adding stats on lifetime payouts per account! You will absolutely love how simple and seemless this will be for you.

Here is my NXT pool accounts info from a NXT block explorer, and you can view the pool stats itself here: http://198.211.103.222/status.php

And with NXT’s announcement of Ardor, I have even ported my system to the new Ardor cryptocurrency. Ardor is still not yet released and is in testnet, and I have my system running on their testnet at http://theardorpool.dynu.net/Status

I hope to quickly and justfully gain the trust of the Tezos community just as I have for NXT, and will be proud to share out proportionally in fees and nondilutionary inflation that my Tezos pool service will gain.

I now have a website up with a good amount of information on baking/staking/delegation, and also has a whitepaper describing the architecture that I am building. https://www.tezzigator.com
Enjoy!
Where is the whitepaper? I can see only a MS Paint picture in White Paper section.
For the time being your site has ~zero of useful information.
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August 24, 2017, 01:03:38 PM
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what information is it you believe is missing?  did you read the section on POS/baking/staking/bond/ etc?  not sure what really you expect here, im not inventing a new crypto or ecosystem, im fitting in a service into a new one, and if you cannot make heads nor tails of the diagram or my definitions, then not sure what to tell you.  do you think i should release source code of my accounting subsystem or UML or what???

sorry to disappoint.  you'll definitely want to bond your own however, or your stash will lose value.
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