[SHUTTING DOWN] [DiceBitco.in | BE THE BANK ! | 1% House Edge]

[marcotheminer]

lose 20 btc today. LOL

Been seeing your bets on there, crazy man. Good luck if you are chasing losses.

 I myself got up to 0.80 from 0.01 BTC I can't even believe it. Considering just closing the site and walking away until my deposit has the 6 confirms needed to withdraw.

If I were you I would do that RIGHT NOW! You will give in to temptation if you stay on the site (you will think you can't lose because you're already up to 0.8 ), leave, eat, walk, run, whatever and come back and withdraw!

[shorena]

logging in while keyboard shortcuts are available is "broken".

I tried to login and when I hit 'h' it started a roll. Since the account was empty anyway it did not matter. It might however for someone else in the future. Works fine with the chat textbox, should also work with the login boxes.




oh and 'drake_rowe' is a spamming the chat currently :C

[Jungian]

lose 20 btc today. LOL

Been seeing your bets on there, crazy man. Good luck if you are chasing losses.

 I myself got up to 0.80 from 0.01 BTC I can't even believe it. Considering just closing the site and walking away until my deposit has the 6 confirms needed to withdraw.

Nice run! Congratulate yourself and do something fun!

[Valzador]

I like pies.  ~~~ Altitude (Dicebitco.in gambler)

[Jungian]

Seems to be some wrong with the site right now. Betting is disabled. Withdravals/deposits and invest/divest works fine, so no need to worry about your coins, but maybe the owners can explain what's going on.

[marcotheminer]

Seems to be some wrong with the site right now. Betting is disabled. Withdravals/deposits and invest/divest works fine, so no need to worry about your coins, but maybe the owners can explain what's going on.

Seems to work fine with 0BTC bets, not sure about actual amount bets as I have no balance.

[a1choi]

a player called Finnile caught some messed up bets.  could be that the site has scammed, could be an error.  I will post up more info when i get it from Finnile.  he has video and screenshots of his bets in action. even Doog checked out his bets and said something is def up

[dooglus]

Seems to be some wrong with the site right now. Betting is disabled. Withdravals/deposits and invest/divest works fine, so no need to worry about your coins, but maybe the owners can explain what's going on.

manl Sep 7, 2014 6:27:53 AM
ok betting is DISABLED till i figure out why the fuck his rolls were not correct.

finnile reported seeing way more than the expected number of losses over a long period.

He made a video of 50 minutes of play where no matter whether he bet hi or lo he lost the vast majority of his bets.

Here's a part of it that he uploaded:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmwSP1lBuGY

Here's a section where he was alternating hi/lo over and over. I ran a roll verifier using his seeds:

05:29: finnile So the client seed: 290992
05:29: finnile hash: 22898e36bbfeddc54a5ad24bf5f40e8e5b01405b5153de247853f4c091013ff4
05:29: finnile Old Server seed: ZGlaVKk5PaN2EKrIiGS2dSuTpgEN5sQXFiOw40H2fkhvxwViviLuOl9S64DqKNpc

If you match up the verified rolls with the rolls he saw, some were skipping. In every case the skipped roll would have resulted in a win for him:



Edit: here's another where he was playing 'lo'. The only time he won was when there were two low rolls in a row. The first one was skipped, but not the second one. It looks like the 'skipping' code only ever skips one winning bet in a row, and never seems to skip a losing bet:

[marcotheminer]

Seems to be some wrong with the site right now. Betting is disabled. Withdravals/deposits and invest/divest works fine, so no need to worry about your coins, but maybe the owners can explain what's going on.

manl Sep 7, 2014 6:27:53 AM
ok betting is DISABLED till i figure out why the fuck his rolls were not correct.

finnile reported seeing way more than the expected number of losses over a long period.

He made a video of 50 minutes of play where no matter whether he bet hi or lo he lost the vast majority of his bets.

Here's a part of it that he uploaded:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmwSP1lBuGY

Here's a section where he was alternating hi/lo over and over. I ran a roll verifier using his seeds:

05:29: finnile So the client seed: 290992
05:29: finnile hash: 22898e36bbfeddc54a5ad24bf5f40e8e5b01405b5153de247853f4c091013ff4
05:29: finnile Old Server seed: ZGlaVKk5PaN2EKrIiGS2dSuTpgEN5sQXFiOw40H2fkhvxwViviLuOl9S64DqKNpc

If you match up the verified rolls with the rolls he saw, some were skipping. In every case the skipped roll would have resulted in a win for him:

Oh shit, this is big.. Lucky someone caught this in time before someone lost big. Hope everything gets resolved ASAP.

EDIT: Site is back up and running, always verify your rolls guys!

[twister]

So this means I was cheated!! I want my 0.01 btc back 

Seems to be some wrong with the site right now. Betting is disabled. Withdravals/deposits and invest/divest works fine, so no need to worry about your coins, but maybe the owners can explain what's going on.

manl Sep 7, 2014 6:27:53 AM
ok betting is DISABLED till i figure out why the fuck his rolls were not correct.

finnile reported seeing way more than the expected number of losses over a long period.

He made a video of 50 minutes of play where no matter whether he bet hi or lo he lost the vast majority of his bets.

Here's a part of it that he uploaded:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmwSP1lBuGY

Here's a section where he was alternating hi/lo over and over. I ran a roll verifier using his seeds:

05:29: finnile So the client seed: 290992
05:29: finnile hash: 22898e36bbfeddc54a5ad24bf5f40e8e5b01405b5153de247853f4c091013ff4
05:29: finnile Old Server seed: ZGlaVKk5PaN2EKrIiGS2dSuTpgEN5sQXFiOw40H2fkhvxwViviLuOl9S64DqKNpc

If you match up the verified rolls with the rolls he saw, some were skipping. In every case the skipped roll would have resulted in a win for him:

[dooglus]

So this means I was cheated!! I want my 0.01 btc back 

It doesn't necessarily mean that.

You should check your bets and see if they verify correctly. Look out for skipped nonces - they should be consecutive.

[a1choi]

https://i.imgur.com/qPosVOC.png
https://i.imgur.com/XQgC9Wr.png
https://i.imgur.com/Jjizyvx.png
https://i.imgur.com/qcA3Wdj.png
https://i.imgur.com/GfdGQg0.png
https://i.imgur.com/QzccpNa.png
https://i.imgur.com/KfhRVRl.png
https://i.imgur.com/hM7T7Xv.png
https://i.imgur.com/UnsReD5.png
https://i.imgur.com/wS10bHv.png
https://i.imgur.com/NlsnXR1.png
https://i.imgur.com/NgyOnx3.png
https://i.imgur.com/ep1Borm.png

here are the links to the images.

[dooglus]

[...]
https://i.imgur.com/ep1Borm.png

here are the links to the images.

I just picked the last one to verify.

Again the only wins are where skipping one win takes him to another winning number - it seems the code never skips two rolls in a row, but also never skips a loss:



Edit:

http://privatepaste.com/80a5e48d6c has a list of the rolled numbers for nonces 4800 through 5200 if you want to check any of the other screenshots for skipped rolls. Or you can generate your own using rgbkey's verifier (which verifies one roll at a time):

http://rgbkey.github.io/verify/dicebitcoin/

or my modified version of it (which verifies a range of rolls):

http://jsfiddle.net/qv30b62u/embedded/result/

[snarlpill]

Doog I wish I could have you check some of my rolls. I did notice unusually long strings of losses towards the period of time that the "scandal" emerged. However, I had been pushing my luck for hours, so could have been variance, and had already cashed out a massive profit today luckily.  I will look more into the verifying when I have the time. I have no reason to believe they would fuck with the bets because they could easily win 10-20 BTC a month off the house with server seeds, and do such in a low key way to slide by undetected forever. So if they were scammers I think it'd be in their best interest to not mess with verifiable rolls.

Just my 2 cents,
snarlpill

EDIT: However I still think the 6 confirms required to cashout when it states 4 (An already huge number) is misleading and needs fixed or changed to state up front 6 confirms needed.

[snarlpill]

finnile Sep 7, 2014 11:13:05 AM
The smart part about your scam was that , nobody checked the nonces were consecutive or not

Doog is this true? I know if anybody can tell us this honestly it is you.

[Gws24]

Edit:

http://privatepaste.com/80a5e48d6c has a list of the rolled numbers for nonces 4800 through 5200 if you want to check any of the other screenshots for skipped rolls. Or you can generate your own using rgbkey's verifier (which verifies one roll at a time):

http://rgbkey.github.io/verify/dicebitcoin/

or my modified version of it (which verifies a range of rolls):

http://jsfiddle.net/qv30b62u/embedded/result/

Dooglus, your modified verifier gives different results then rgbkey's version:



RGBkey's version gives the result that matches the roll on dicebitco's my bets tab. Also tried it on a range of nonces but they're stil off; am I doing something wrong?


EDIT: screenshot of the bet on dicebitco:

[finnile]

Just make sure you are not putting in any spaces, and not pressing Enter after putting in the nonce or seeds.

[Gws24]

I just copy pasted it but just checked to make sure and there are no spaces or Enters

Maybe someone else can try it to double check?

server seed: 8iALTHbCjKALWRCz4JcS1K1UDftwlNurZBBY0u3Z5g6C2S48J9VMEyeyvKsoN865
client seed: 64363643568560724277224
nonce: 1348

[a1choi]

I just copy pasted it but just checked to make sure and there are no spaces or Enters

Maybe someone else can try it to double check?

server seed: 8iALTHbCjKALWRCz4JcS1K1UDftwlNurZBBY0u3Z5g6C2S48J9VMEyeyvKsoN865
client seed: 64363643568560724277224
nonce: 1348

you're sure thats the server seed and not the hash?

[snarlpill]

And the info. you get from clicking Provably Fair to verify it is for your last roll right? And inputting client seed, server seed, and nonce? For RGBKey verifier?

EDIT- I see where to get each roll info. now. So far all of mine are showing true matched against RGBKey verifier.