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Author Topic: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.3 Fork block 92000  (Read 2170605 times)
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August 29, 2014, 11:31:53 PM
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Do we need to generate new plots at a moment, or when its generated its for ever and not necessary to generate other for the same disk?
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August 29, 2014, 11:40:51 PM
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Do we need to generate new plots at a moment, or when its generated its for ever and not necessary to generate other for the same disk?

When the pool v2 is out you can use the already created plots.
When using different disks and the same wallet each disk should have it's own plot in a different range.
Else you will be just waisting disk space.
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August 29, 2014, 11:43:52 PM
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Do we need to generate new plots at a moment, or when its generated its for ever and not necessary to generate other for the same disk?

When the pool v2 is out you can use the already created plots.
When using different disks and the same wallet each disk should have it's own plot in a different range.
Else you will be just waisting disk space.

And in solo? not necessary to generate too? once plots created we can mine with the same plots for ever, right?
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August 29, 2014, 11:47:53 PM
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Do we need to generate new plots at a moment, or when its generated its for ever and not necessary to generate other for the same disk?

When the pool v2 is out you can use the already created plots.
When using different disks and the same wallet each disk should have it's own plot in a different range.
Else you will be just waisting disk space.

And in solo? not necessary to generate too? once plots created we can mine with the same plots for ever, right?

Yes. You can stick with the plots except when going from solo to the v1 pool.
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August 29, 2014, 11:49:51 PM
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Do we need to generate new plots at a moment, or when its generated its for ever and not necessary to generate other for the same disk?

When the pool v2 is out you can use the already created plots.
When using different disks and the same wallet each disk should have it's own plot in a different range.
Else you will be just waisting disk space.

And in solo? not necessary to generate too? once plots created we can mine with the same plots for ever, right?

Yes. You can stick with the plots except when going from solo to the v1 pool.

Ok thx for all, i begin to understand this new mining method.
Seems to have a great potential on this one
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August 29, 2014, 11:56:30 PM
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Well....I think,we need our own forum for this coin.It is only 3 weeks old and 208 pages... Shocked
Allso will be great if we can find some trusted person who can create and hold wallet for bounties.
If community will like it,I can make one,but I don't think what community will trust to man with 130 posts.

And couple words about plotting with gpu's...Dev said he has working programm,and that means,he using it for himself right now.I think,a lot of people will cry here about it after some time.

Dev has made a lot of work and of course,he wold like to use it for himself to get paid for this work,but we can set bounty to him for gpu plott's generator.I will lovely put 9k of burst to this bounty from my pocket.

It was me that wrote about the OpenCL plot program, dev does not have one as far as I know.
Its not working btw - has some race condition and produces plot files that are only 90% accurate. I'm working on a C miner and porting it to windows currently, so the gpu plotter has low priority.

In all case, i don't think that's a gpu miner/plotter will be a good idea for this one. It could remove all the attractions of this coins if we can mine "like" other.

Just my 2 cents
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August 30, 2014, 12:01:10 AM
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Well....I think,we need our own forum for this coin.It is only 3 weeks old and 208 pages... Shocked
Allso will be great if we can find some trusted person who can create and hold wallet for bounties.
If community will like it,I can make one,but I don't think what community will trust to man with 130 posts.

And couple words about plotting with gpu's...Dev said he has working programm,and that means,he using it for himself right now.I think,a lot of people will cry here about it after some time.

Dev has made a lot of work and of course,he wold like to use it for himself to get paid for this work,but we can set bounty to him for gpu plott's generator.I will lovely put 9k of burst to this bounty from my pocket.

It was me that wrote about the OpenCL plot program, dev does not have one as far as I know.
Its not working btw - has some race condition and produces plot files that are only 90% accurate. I'm working on a C miner and porting it to windows currently, so the gpu plotter has low priority.

In all case, i don't think that's a gpu miner/plotter will be a good idea for this one. It could remove all the attractions of this coins if we can mine "like" other.

Just my 2 cents

Eh, the focus is still on storage. GPUs just would allow for the initial plot generation to be sped up to the maximum write speed(s) of the drive(s) you're using. It wouldn't replace hard drive mining. Someone did a test in which a GPU pulling somewhere around 250W at wall was able to mine at the effective rate of a 34 or 35GB plot. While I'm sure further optimizations were possible, both the hardware and the electricity would be far more expensive to GPU 'mine' than to hard-drive mine. GPUs would only be useful for the initial setup, and even at that point you may be limited by the write speeds of the hard drives you are using.

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August 30, 2014, 12:03:38 AM
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Well....I think,we need our own forum for this coin.It is only 3 weeks old and 208 pages... Shocked
Allso will be great if we can find some trusted person who can create and hold wallet for bounties.
If community will like it,I can make one,but I don't think what community will trust to man with 130 posts.

And couple words about plotting with gpu's...Dev said he has working programm,and that means,he using it for himself right now.I think,a lot of people will cry here about it after some time.

Dev has made a lot of work and of course,he wold like to use it for himself to get paid for this work,but we can set bounty to him for gpu plott's generator.I will lovely put 9k of burst to this bounty from my pocket.

It was me that wrote about the OpenCL plot program, dev does not have one as far as I know.
Its not working btw - has some race condition and produces plot files that are only 90% accurate. I'm working on a C miner and porting it to windows currently, so the gpu plotter has low priority.

In all case, i don't think that's a gpu miner/plotter will be a good idea for this one. It could remove all the attractions of this coins if we can mine "like" other.

Just my 2 cents

Eh, the focus is still on storage. GPUs just would allow for the initial plot generation to be sped up to the maximum write speed(s) of the drive(s) you're using. It wouldn't replace hard drive mining.

Indeed. The gpu would only be used to generate the plots (just like you rCPU is doing now) but way much faster.
Mining itself will be done by your HDD('s).

I do think that the gpu plot generator should be something for the future and priority should be given to the v2 pool (which is what the Dev is doing if i am correct).
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August 30, 2014, 12:13:43 AM
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I'm using dcct's generator and my plot is 35% done so I wanted to start mining with it.  I assume the plot file needs to be in the plot folder for poc_miner so it can find it?  I created a link (shortcut) to dcct's plot folder and ran the run_mine.bat.  Got this error which repeats indefinitely until the terminal is closed.

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[WARN] [08/29/2014 20:09:29.190] [default-akka.actor.default-dispatcher-8] [akka://default/user/$a/$b] For input string: ".fuse"
[ERROR] [08/29/2014 20:09:29.190] [default-akka.actor.default-dispatcher-8] [akka://default/user/$a/$b] changing Resume into Create after akka.actor.ActorInitializationException: exception during creation

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August 30, 2014, 12:32:57 AM
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I'm up to nearly 400 views on the Multipool thread but got no responses!

Anyone know anyone with this ability?

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August 30, 2014, 01:09:25 AM
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I'm using dcct's generator and my plot is 35% done so I wanted to start mining with it.  I assume the plot file needs to be in the plot folder for poc_miner so it can find it?  I created a link (shortcut) to dcct's plot folder and ran the run_mine.bat.  Got this error which repeats indefinitely until the terminal is closed.

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[WARN] [08/29/2014 20:09:29.190] [default-akka.actor.default-dispatcher-8] [akka://default/user/$a/$b] For input string: ".fuse"
[ERROR] [08/29/2014 20:09:29.190] [default-akka.actor.default-dispatcher-8] [akka://default/user/$a/$b] changing Resume into Create after akka.actor.ActorInitializationException: exception during creation


Try a different type of link. I'm guessing it's not following the link. Someone else was having a problem with a particular type of link the other day also.

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August 30, 2014, 02:24:45 AM
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I'm using dcct's generator and my plot is 35% done so I wanted to start mining with it.  I assume the plot file needs to be in the plot folder for poc_miner so it can find it?  I created a link (shortcut) to dcct's plot folder and ran the run_mine.bat.  Got this error which repeats indefinitely until the terminal is closed.

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[WARN] [08/29/2014 20:09:29.190] [default-akka.actor.default-dispatcher-8] [akka://default/user/$a/$b] For input string: ".fuse"
[ERROR] [08/29/2014 20:09:29.190] [default-akka.actor.default-dispatcher-8] [akka://default/user/$a/$b] changing Resume into Create after akka.actor.ActorInitializationException: exception during creation


Try a different type of link. I'm guessing it's not following the link. Someone else was having a problem with a particular type of link the other day also.

I did try just moving all of the files from the poc_miner folder into the plotgenerator folder so it wouldn't use a link.  It worked fine on another computer but still gives that same error on this one.
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August 30, 2014, 03:58:53 AM
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Slowly but surely rising price.....
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August 30, 2014, 04:41:57 AM
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I'm using dcct's generator and my plot is 35% done so I wanted to start mining with it.  I assume the plot file needs to be in the plot folder for poc_miner so it can find it?  I created a link (shortcut) to dcct's plot folder and ran the run_mine.bat.  Got this error which repeats indefinitely until the terminal is closed.

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[WARN] [08/29/2014 20:09:29.190] [default-akka.actor.default-dispatcher-8] [akka://default/user/$a/$b] For input string: ".fuse"
[ERROR] [08/29/2014 20:09:29.190] [default-akka.actor.default-dispatcher-8] [akka://default/user/$a/$b] changing Resume into Create after akka.actor.ActorInitializationException: exception during creation


Try a different type of link. I'm guessing it's not following the link. Someone else was having a problem with a particular type of link the other day also.

I did try just moving all of the files from the poc_miner folder into the plotgenerator folder so it wouldn't use a link.  It worked fine on another computer but still gives that same error on this one.
Can you do a ls -al in your plots folder? I'm guessing there's something called .fuse in it.

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August 30, 2014, 05:21:37 AM
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start_plot_num : is the starting plot, every plot file you make, just start the plot from the previous generate run start_plot + num_plots.
total_num_plots : is the number of plots you wish to generate, each plot is 256kb.

I have a few questions regarding plot sizes and number of plots. Let's say I have 10 TB of free space in a RAID volume (linux). Does it affect performance if I create one big 10 TB plot file or is it better to create for example 5 plot files, each of 2 TB? Is mining more efficient if there is one big single plot file, or it doesn't matter?

Also, will my miner automatically use all plot files if there are many of them or any special configuration is needed?

When I create multiple plots, is this the correct way:

1st plot:

./plot [myid] 1 2048000 8000 2
Creating plots for nonces 1 to 2048001 (500 GB) using 2000 MB memory and 2 threads

2nd plot:

./plot [myid] 2048002 2048000 8000 2
Creating plots for nonces 2048002 to 4096002 (500 GB) using 2000 MB memory and 2 threads

Do I start the 2nd plot at nonce 2048001 or at 2048002 (I'm not sure if nonce 2048001 is included in the 1st plot)?
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August 30, 2014, 05:36:01 AM
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start_plot_num : is the starting plot, every plot file you make, just start the plot from the previous generate run start_plot + num_plots.
total_num_plots : is the number of plots you wish to generate, each plot is 256kb.

I have a few questions regarding plot sizes and number of plots. Let's say I have 10 TB of free space in a RAID volume (linux). Does it affect performance if I create one big 10 TB plot file or is it better to create for example 5 plot files, each of 2 TB? Is mining more efficient if there is one big single plot file, or it doesn't matter?

Also, will my miner automatically use all plot files if there are many of them or any special configuration is needed?

When I create multiple plots, is this the correct way:

1st plot:

./plot [myid] 1 2048000 8000 2
Creating plots for nonces 1 to 2048001 (500 GB) using 2000 MB memory and 2 threads

2nd plot:

./plot [myid] 2048002 2048000 8000 2
Creating plots for nonces 2048002 to 4096002 (500 GB) using 2000 MB memory and 2 threads

Do I start the 2nd plot at nonce 2048001 or at 2048002 (I'm not sure if nonce 2048001 is included in the 1st plot)?
One large plot will be the same as more smaller plots.

All plot files in the plots folder are used.

Those are fine. If you're trying to do sequential like that, you start on previous_start + total_nonces for the next, so it would be 2048001 in that case. There is no need or benefit to use ranges right next to each other though, just make sure your ranges don't overlap.

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August 30, 2014, 07:00:56 AM
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 Total Blocks 6706 mined by 672 miners 
it seems 52 new miners mined the burst in these two days, Embarrassedi can't compete with you guys any more, didn't find a block in three days,,,see you in the v2 pools Grin

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August 30, 2014, 07:15:43 AM
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Total Blocks 6706 mined by 672 miners 
it seems 52 new miners mined the burst in these two days, Embarrassedi can't compete with you guys any more, didn't find a block in three days,,,see you in the v2 pools Grin

how big is your plot file?
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August 30, 2014, 07:29:09 AM
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Total Blocks 6706 mined by 672 miners 
it seems 52 new miners mined the burst in these two days, Embarrassedi can't compete with you guys any more, didn't find a block in three days,,,see you in the v2 pools Grin

how big is your plot file?
3.8T

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August 30, 2014, 07:39:56 AM
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Total Blocks 6706 mined by 672 miners 
it seems 52 new miners mined the burst in these two days, Embarrassedi can't compete with you guys any more, didn't find a block in three days,,,see you in the v2 pools Grin

how big is your plot file?
3.8T

I am in the same situation, but 2.7tb for me, hope v2 pool will be realeased soon
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