Blowing the lid off the CryptoNote/Bytecoin scam (with the exception of Monero)

[phsan12888]

I have realized that  BCN has after all become a textbook example on how to break Cryptonote by creating a massive ninjamine

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[versprichnix]

In your warnings distinguish between the original developer group, and the "Jenny Goldberg" group. The old group could exist yet and be alive, future of BCN remains exciting. The unsuccessful but yet planned hardfork could be a hint for leaving the original devs behind and though leave the battlefield with a good profit on the back of others.

[smooth]

In your warnings distinguish between the original developer group, and the "Jenny Goldberg" group. The old group could exist yet and be alive, future of BCN remains exciting. The unsuccessful but yet planned hardfork could be a hint for leaving the original devs behind and though leave the battlefield with a good profit on the back of others.

There is no clear evidence they are two different groups, though it is possible.

[cuongnguyen0540]

Nowhere in your rambling did you manage to point out any verifiable wrong doing by the Monero devs.
If you consider "not being guilty of anything" a PR campaign, than I suppose Monero is guilty of that.
I find it rather humorous that Monero's lack of suspicious activity is causing all these new accounts to whine about faul play.

[versprichnix]

Nowhere in your rambling did you manage to point out any verifiable wrong doing by the Monero devs.
If you consider "not being guilty of anything" a PR campaign, than I suppose Monero is guilty of that.
I find it rather humorous that Monero's lack of suspicious activity is causing all these new accounts to whine about faul play.

We are all deficient, and nobody must blame itself. I would feel better if inhuman mankind would stop to lie to his own advantage.

It's possible. I have such an amount of Monero in my wallet, that I cannot decide, if it's too less or too much of my assets in total. In this compromise I can argument to the advantage or disadvantage over XMR or BCN or whatever. I even could help to destroy my assets, if I feel this is better for natur and humans.

Speculators tend to lie to their own advantage, because they have too much or too less of an asset.

You can make me guilty of anything, if you feel better then.

[BDRatings]

I consolidated the new findings in a new thread as well. It makes it a bit easier to link to as the information is a bit dispersed.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4508322.0

[Hueristic]

In your warnings distinguish between the original developer group, and the "Jenny Goldberg" group. The old group could exist yet and be alive, future of BCN remains exciting. The unsuccessful but yet planned hardfork could be a hint for leaving the original devs behind and though leave the battlefield with a good profit on the back of others.

Even if true why would anyone want to be part of this when they could be part of a new project with all the advantages and none of this scam attached. Anyone pushing this is a fool that is holding bags or a scammer off loading the pre-mine. I would have nothing to do with either.

There is no argument that I can think of that would make using or supporting bytecoin in any way a sane prospect.

I consolidated the new findings in a new thread as well. It makes it a bit easier to link to as the information is a bit dispersed.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4508322.0

Very nice, subbed and merited.

[BDRatings]

Also, DStrange was active in parallel to Jenny for quite a while, on Reddit. Here they are in the same thread.

https://www.reddit.com/r/BytecoinBCN/comments/6sp00o/warning_bells/dlfmktl/?context=3

[luckyluigi]

"

pfft  


Look, who doesn't enjoy a little bit of mystery every now and then...
all I'm sayin is there's a difference between mystery and deception.

Recently it became to be very hard to understand and spot this mystery and reception difference. There are many cases when the mystery turned out to be a deception and you spot it when it is already too late."

[BDRatings]

Now they are fighting back by attacking Monero and reporting my Medium account (again). It's frustrating that they never engage any single issue brought up, and instead cry 'fake news'.

https://www.reddit.com/r/BytecoinBCN/comments/8sv029/the_monero_xmr_scam_uncovered/
https://www.reddit.com/r/BytecoinBCN/comments/8sz6fh/lets_stop_the_fake_news/

Edit: thanks for the merit guys.

[longquan1500]

on greater reflection I find the coincidence that a russian guy connected to BCN having a name which translates to the name of the CN author too great to dismiss.
I think it's fair to say that Sabelnikov is van Saberhagen

[owlcatz]

on greater reflection I find the coincidence that a russian guy connected to BCN having a name which translates to the name of the CN author too great to dismiss.
I think it's fair to say that Sabelnikov is van Saberhagen

If it was, why did he do such a shitty job on this scam? I think he would have done much better myself, but who knows.

[aejontargaryen]

We are all deficient, and nobody must blame itself. I would feel better if inhuman mankind would stop to lie to his own advantage.

It's possible. I have such an amount of Monero in my wallet, that I cannot decide, if it's too less or too much of my assets in total. In this compromise I can argument to the advantage or disadvantage over XMR or BCN or whatever. I even could help to destroy my assets, if I feel this is better for natur and humans.

Speculators tend to lie to their own advantage, because they have too much or too less of an asset.

You can make me guilty of anything, if you feel better then.

How cool was that? Spot on bro.

[vaniril]

I can without a doubt, say that Come-from-Above's threads/posts have been fake/to get laughs.
He hasn't bought a single bitcointalk account(he's made accounts), and most definitely doesn't own over 5 bitcoin. He simply trolls here and there, off and on for the laughs. So that entire thread made by Cheesus(another sockpuppet account) about Monero is bogus.

[bamita137]

The crypto community has a strange way of viewing what is fair and what is not.
if the Bytecoin devs today sold off all of their premined coins of the technology they invented now for a million dollars, its a scam.
However let's pretend Monero goes to a billion dollar market cap a year from now and the devs own 5% of the supply and they make off with 50 million dollars, well suddenly that is "fair" because they mined it even though they never invented anything really.

[owlcatz]

The crypto community has a strange way of viewing what is fair and what is not.
if the Bytecoin devs today sold off all of their premined coins of the technology they invented now for a million dollars, its a scam.
However let's pretend Monero goes to a billion dollar market cap a year from now and the devs own 5% of the supply and they make off with 50 million dollars, well suddenly that is "fair" because they mined it even though they never invented anything really.

There is a very large difference between creating coins from thin air, versus having to work for them. Do you actually think Monero devs have invented  "Nothing"?  That doesn't fly, sorry!

[smooth]

The crypto community has a strange way of viewing what is fair and what is not.
if the Bytecoin devs today sold off all of their premined coins of the technology they invented now for a million dollars, its a scam.
However let's pretend Monero goes to a billion dollar market cap a year from now and the devs own 5% of the supply and they make off with 50 million dollars, well suddenly that is "fair" because they mined it even though they never invented anything really.

There is a very large difference between creating coins from thin air, versus having to work for them. Do you actually think Monero devs have invented  "Nothing"?  That doesn't fly, sorry!

Someone check, has he posted about crimea? 

[versprichnix]

Hard work can build nuclear bombs. You want make me to think your "hard work" is for human live, and not for stealing? Possible, I indeed don't know. Get rich quick schemes are allways theft, in my opinion. Nobody demands you to work hard, despite of other thefts. My conclusion is: there are nearly no human lives left on earth. The anser is given by natural rules, the same that apply to animal plagues. Innocence is allowed to survive, exaggered education is not.

[cAPSLOCK]

Hard work can build nuclear bombs. You want make me to think your "hard work" is for human live, and not for stealing? Possible, I indeed don't know. Get rich quick schemes are allways theft, in my opinion. Nobody demands you to work hard, despite of other thefts. My conclusion is: there are nearly no human lives left on earth. The anser is given by natural rules, the same that apply to animal plagues. Innocence is allowed to survive, exaggered education is not.

Yes, "exaggered education" is a scourge!

[win365]

Regardless of CryptoNote being a scam or NOT, you should be commended for your analytical skills and the amount of effort you put into this.

This that I literally need to work for FBI, or something like that, I would never go so deep in order to help somebody else. This is really worthy of respect.