Blowing the lid off the CryptoNote/Bytecoin scam (with the exception of Monero)

[vit05]

Let's look at similarities:

Satoshi Nakamoto (Bitcoin)
Nicolas van Saberhagen (Bytecoin)

SN/NS

Bitcointalk username: Satoshi
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile%3bu=3
Date Registered: November 19, 2009, 07:12:39 PM
satoshin@gmx.com

Bitcointalk username: Bytecoin (has Bitcoin expert title - only awarded by mods)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=490
Date Registered: July 17, 2010, 02:38:57 AM
bytecoin@gmx.com

Brand new user "Bytecoin" interacting with Satoshi
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=43.msg3659#msg3659

The similarities are there if anyone wants to dig further.

The user Bytecoin and the pseudonym Nicolas van Saberhagen are the same person? I always thought it was just a coincidence.

BTW, does anyone know the real name of the user Bytecoin and why he has disappears?

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[versprichnix]

Hey smooth, what is your opinion about manhunt over the internet?

[illusiveglitch]

haha... could you explain why this research was done on bcn? any further information on why bcn was a scam? rethink-your-strategy...

[versprichnix]

I have no trust into the current bytecoin dev group, but I could not prove it it a scam. You can have a distinct opinion about it, of course.

But if you monero folk go on with manhunt here, you will destroy monero, not bytecoin. And you will produce collateral damage for sure. No single human on earth is important enough to destroy him.

I heard about a bounty on the head of Satoshi Nakamoto, to indentify him. He was right to leave, and they are wrong. Let him alone!

[owlcatz]

I have no trust into the current bytecoin dev group, but I could not prove it it a scam. You can have a distinct opinion about it, of course.

But if you monero folk go on with manhunt here, you will destroy monero, not bytecoin. And you will produce collateral damage for sure. No single human on earth is important enough to destroy him.

I heard about a bounty on the head of Satoshi Nakamoto, to indentify him. He was right to leave, and they are wrong. Let him alone!

It's a scam leave it at that. The fact that BDratings continues to follow and keep us informed is fine. Nobody is chasing anybody. Let it alone...

[elrippos friend]

Keep it on 

[Hueristic]

I have no trust into the current bytecoin dev group, but I could not prove it it a scam. You can have a distinct opinion about it, of course.

But if you monero folk go on with manhunt here, you will destroy monero, not bytecoin. And you will produce collateral damage for sure. No single human on earth is important enough to destroy him.

I heard about a bounty on the head of Satoshi Nakamoto, to indentify him. He was right to leave, and they are wrong. Let him alone!

They are not letting it go, every time we think Bytecoin is dead in the water, it comes back.

Bytecoin == Crypto Herpies.

[BDRatings]

AssetRush has now removed their team page. All the fake profiles gone. I still think it will be hard for them to land more business, at least with serious actors.

https://assetrush.com/

There is one fact about all this that is interesting and that relates to Bytecoin. We have clear evidence that Jenny co-founded AssetRush and created the fake profiles. Her Twitter handle was created at around the same time as all other fake Twitter handles, for instance. All this was reported by me and others on the Bytecoin subreddit, and even if the mods removed most of the findings in the end, subscribers certainly had time to read it. What I find odd is that there has been no minority faction of (gullible but honest) BCN holders that has after that point been vocal about any of this. No supporters have demanded that Jenny leave the Bytecoin team, or that at least they are owed an explanation with regards to the fake profiles of her company, which, lets face it, is serious when real money is involved.

The silence indicates that the Bytecoin community is very, very small despite the rather high market cap of BCN, and that at least parts of the regular posters over at their subreddit are controlled by the scammers themselves. Had the community been of proportional size to the market cap, as well as organic, I am sure we would have seen a great deal of infighting by now. When I have time I will launch an investigation of the top supporters/posters. Creation dates coupled with posting patterns usually go a long way.

[versprichnix]

There should be a chain existing from before the last fork. How can I find and connect to the original historic fork?

[Cheesus]

Is Bytecoin still scam? How many good things do you need to reconsider the Bytecoin? This scam coin has been listed on Coinbase long ago, but I am still suffering because of your red tag! Can you guys remove your red tags from my profile? People are still treating me as a thief, scammer or a bad guy because of the red trust!

[TanakabZX]

Well i never liked bytecoin from the beginning, when i used to mine i like pointing my rigs to xmr or dero among other cryptonite coins, when a coin has too many premined coins its a red flag to me and secondly bytecoin max supply is too much

[owlcatz]

Is Bytecoin still scam? How many good things do you need to reconsider the Bytecoin? This scam coin has been listed on Coinbase long ago, but I am still suffering because of your red tag! Can you guys remove your red tags from my profile? People are still treating me as a thief, scammer or a bad guy because of the red trust!

PM the people who sent you the negs, not whine here.

And yes, once a scam, always a scam.

[readyUP]

are you serious !!?
Do you consider a currency a scam just because they have created fake profiles and because it has been premined and has a large supply?
then KIN the chat currency is a scam, it will have many users with double accounts and it has a gigantic supply. after 8 years standing in this market, fighting for years against the infamous.
I would have held much less time.

[owlcatz]

are you serious !!? YES
Do you consider a currency a scam just because they have created fake profiles and because it has been premined and has a large supply? YES
then KIN the chat currency is a scam, it will have many users with double accounts and it has a gigantic supply. after 8 years standing in this market, fighting for years against the infamous.
I would have held much less time.

Yes, I agree, any "coin" with a hidden premine and deceitful actors/devs is a scam.

[elrippos friend]

are you serious !!? YES
Do you consider a currency a scam just because they have created fake profiles and because it has been premined and has a large supply? YES
then KIN the chat currency is a scam, it will have many users with double accounts and it has a gigantic supply. after 8 years standing in this market, fighting for years against the infamous.
I would have held much less time.

Yes, I agree, any "coin" with a hidden premine and deceitful actors/devs is a scam.

Is BTC a scam then 

[owlcatz]

are you serious !!? YES
Do you consider a currency a scam just because they have created fake profiles and because it has been premined and has a large supply? YES
then KIN the chat currency is a scam, it will have many users with double accounts and it has a gigantic supply. after 8 years standing in this market, fighting for years against the infamous.
I would have held much less time.

Yes, I agree, any "coin" with a hidden premine and deceitful actors/devs is a scam.

Is BTC a scam then 

No. You must have missed the two key words, hidden and deceitful. 

[elrippos friend]

are you serious !!? YES
Do you consider a currency a scam just because they have created fake profiles and because it has been premined and has a large supply? YES
then KIN the chat currency is a scam, it will have many users with double accounts and it has a gigantic supply. after 8 years standing in this market, fighting for years against the infamous.
I would have held much less time.

Yes, I agree, any "coin" with a hidden premine and deceitful actors/devs is a scam.

Is BTC a scam then 

No. You must have missed the two key words, hidden and deceitful. 

1.000.000 BTC hidden premine.... 

[owlcatz]

1.000.000 BTC hidden premine.... 

Lol... Funny, but it's not hidden.

(PS - Why you arguing with a fellow monero lover, I know you from the XMR threads.

[elrippos friend]

1.000.000 BTC hidden premine.... 

Lol... Funny, but it's not hidden.

(PS - Why you arguing with a fellow monero lover, I know you from the XMR threads.

Just because it's fun arguing in here 

[owlcatz]

Just because it's fun arguing in here 

  

... I forgot this topic existed it hadn't been bumped in so damn long!