dice.ninja - Now with Plinko!

[LOBSTER]

Ladies and Gentleman!

This is what possibly happened  and what is the most logically:

Their plan was to steal all the money and run with all the Bitcoins.
But their plan ran into problems when he got doxed, that scared him and he had to made up some story to save his head and he came up with this "Official Statement" story which have zero logic!
If "Official Statement" story is real then they would say that much before and of course they will post there and interact with people to find solution.

Now he are refunding some balances, to keep people calm and save his head. He is not sending them their whole balance because "they got hacked and don`t have the whole balance" and with that story they will go with the other money (hacked) and hope no one will search them.

That's it.

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[Mythoughts]

At least the refunds have been quite random. As i previously said I'm missing 50+ BTC from my account Steve (2474) on DN and haven't received anything. That is still a good amount of coins. Even tough I'm not located in the US I might just hop on a plane next week and try to talk to this guy. I might also be happy to help anybody who wants to do it with his travel expenses However I would like to have more confidence that the doxing is correct. The evidence is slim and I'm not sure whether I should go to NY or the other side of the US.

Check your PMs :-)

I'm also still missing many coins and want contribute if I'm not refunded soon.

[jaysabi]

Before you do, consider that we have nothing linking dmf to the guy in the photo other than that we have a single instagram photo of the guy with the tag "dicemasterflash" on it.

That's all.

How's this for a theory:

dmf *isn't* the guy in the photo, but he's watching this thread, sees some innocent guy in New York get incorrectly dox'ed, and thinks "if I start making some token refunds right now, all those idiots will see it as proof that that's me in the photo"...

Crazy, right?

Quoting for emphasis. This is a theory I'm inclined to believe.

If it's not the same person there has to be some connection between those two, right? So what happens if Mr. Innocent gets inundated by phone calls or gets a police report filed against him or just googles his name one day? I'm not saying it's right or wrong to tie a person to a scam that way, just trying to follow this assumption further.

I wouldn't make threats or do anything stupid, but definitely see about filing a police report if possible or see if you can convince an officer to investigate and bring you along.

Try to file a police report. When they're done rolling their eyes, they'll tell you they don't have jurisdiction or this is a civil matter, if not because they believe it, because they don't have time to deal with a bunch of internet detectives crying over an imaginary currency they've never heard of (from their perspective).

This is basically how I would imagine the exchange to go:

Cop: So you sent him money and he didn't return it?
You: Yeah.
Cop: It's a civil matter, sue him.
You: I don't know who he is.
Cop: I guess you learned a valuable lesson then.

[cudjex]

I'm sorry for all investors.

People shouldn't trust a man if he is trying to stay anonymous, when he has thousand of bitcoins (of costumers).
You can trust too, but probably you will lose your investments. The good point is, some people can resist to "power of money", like doog, stunna..

[thompete]

I'm sorry for all investors.

People shouldn't trust a man if he is trying to stay anonymous, when he has thousand of bitcoins (of costumers).
You can trust too, but probably you will lose your investments. The good point is, some people can resist to "power of money", like doog, stunna..

Unfortunately, Casino site runners have to stay anonymous to avoid legal issues, but it does give them the ability to commit a fraud with the coins that are invested.

[cudjex]

The most interesting story in 2014. Hard to believe it's real.

[Coef]

The real identity of DMF is Joe Mattie, aka AKCoinDiggger. Based on his sloppiness not covering his ip addresses on multiple sites, and funding gambling accounts directly from cold storage, I believe that he always had intentions of operating a legitimate site and only planned on borrowed investor money to recover personal loses. When things went south, he didn't want to run an insolvent site and to protect people against further loses he made the site dark.

I haven't followed the thread closely, is this just a guess or we have evidence on the link between the two persons?

[DarKSpectrE]

So it was not Jeremy Hise. Eric, brace yourself because you will be probably sued.

[Anony]

The real identity of DMF is Joe Mattie, aka AKCoinDiggger. Based on his sloppiness not covering his ip addresses on multiple sites, and funding gambling accounts directly from cold storage, I believe that he always had intentions of operating a legitimate site and only planned on borrowed investor money to recover personal loses. When things went south, he didn't want to run an insolvent site and to protect people against further loses he made the site dark.


The whole thing appears to be a rather unfortunate story, and I think we should reserve judgment and pitchforks until we hear Joe's side. I know many people would not follow with me, but if you Joe were to create a list of people and amounts owed -- and offer some sort of repayment plan -- I would give a re-opened dice.ninja a second chance. In this arrangement I would expect the roll-server and cold-storage to be under dooglus's control. I think you had a real passion and talent and it's sad to see how things have ended up for you, and your investors.

Thanks,
Eric

Well this escalated quickly. If it is true, my entire perspective on AK has changed, I thought he was a really cool guy. Even DMF seemed to be a top notch dude.

[suchmoon]

Oh dear, this is getting better and better. I'm almost out of popcorn after the DB saga, and now this.

[thompete]

The real identity of DMF is Joe Mattie, aka AKCoinDiggger. Based on his sloppiness not covering his ip addresses on multiple sites, and funding gambling accounts directly from cold storage, I believe that he always had intentions of operating a legitimate site and only planned on borrowed investor money to recover personal loses. When things went south, he didn't want to run an insolvent site and to protect people against further loses he made the site dark.

The whole thing appears to be a rather unfortunate story, and I think we should reserve judgment and pitchforks until we hear Joe's side. I know many people would not follow with me, but if you Joe were to create a list of people and amounts owed -- and offer some sort of repayment plan -- I would give a re-opened dice.ninja a second chance. In this arrangement I would expect the roll-server and cold-storage to be under dooglus's control. I think you had a real passion and talent and it's sad to see how things have ended up for you, and your investors.

How can you be so sure that it was AK? If it is, thats the sickest scam ever. The timing of AK losing and PD and all would make sense, but how are you so sure?

[Stars]

The real identity of DMF is Joe Mattie, aka AKCoinDiggger. Based on his sloppiness not covering his ip addresses on multiple sites, and funding gambling accounts directly from cold storage, I believe that he always had intentions of operating a legitimate site and only planned on borrowed investor money to recover personal loses. When things went south, he didn't want to run an insolvent site and to protect people against further loses he made the site dark.

The whole thing appears to be a rather unfortunate story, and I think we should reserve judgment and pitchforks until we hear Joe's side. I know many people would not follow with me, but if you Joe were to create a list of people and amounts owed -- and offer some sort of repayment plan -- I would give a re-opened dice.ninja a second chance. In this arrangement I would expect the roll-server and cold-storage to be under dooglus's control. I think you had a real passion and talent and it's sad to see how things have ended up for you, and your investors.

How can you be so sure that it was AK? If it is, thats the sickest scam ever. The timing of AK losing and PD and all would make sense, but how are you so sure?

This is insane if it's true. AK won 300-400 coins over at DN right? Well.. I guess that explains a lot.

[theskillzdatklls]

If that is true this whole thread is turning into some soap opera from the 80s.

[abovemike]

since someone has decided to go public:

akcoin and dmf shared the same ip address, confirmed by the administrators of moneypot and just-dice.
dooglus has not publically said so, but no doubt will soon

also akcoin funded his gambling sprees to the deposit addresses of several dice sites by sending directly from dice ninja's 1ninja address.

if you analyze the ninja cold wallet address graph espringe made ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=745422.msg9177067#msg9177067 ), the funds diverge from the reported bankroll total in September.

this coincides with akcoin starting to gamble really big on other dice sites, until finally going bust and losing 1200+ btc to primedice/stunna

there will probably be no more refunds, because stunna has your money now

[PrimedicePlayersUnion]

The real identity of DMF is Joe Mattie, aka AKCoinDiggger. Based on his sloppiness not covering his ip addresses on multiple sites, and funding gambling accounts directly from cold storage, I believe that he always had intentions of operating a legitimate site and only planned on borrowed investor money to recover personal loses. When things went south, he didn't want to run an insolvent site and to protect people against further loses he made the site dark.


The whole thing appears to be a rather unfortunate story, and I think we should reserve judgment and pitchforks until we hear Joe's side. I know many people would not follow with me, but if you Joe were to create a list of people and amounts owed -- and offer some sort of repayment plan -- I would give a re-opened dice.ninja a second chance. In this arrangement I would expect the roll-server and cold-storage to be under dooglus's control. I think you had a real passion and talent and it's sad to see how things have ended up for you, and your investors.

Thanks,
Eric

wowowowo
i thought he was an early adopter

[edmundduke]

I have no idea if this is the case (i doubt it tho) but IF it is.

Then someone needs to make a TV show/ TV series about it. This is too good of a story to pass!

[suchmoon]

If that is true this whole thread is turning into some soap opera from the 80s.

Are you suggesting AK will have a severe case of amnesia? Or a long-lost evil twin sibling.

[theskillzdatklls]

since someone has decided to go public:

akcoin and dmf shared the same ip address, confirmed by the administrators of moneypot and just-dice.
dooglus has not publically said so, but no doubt will soon

also akcoin funded his gambling sprees to the deposit addresses of several dice sites by sending directly from dice ninja's 1ninja address.

if you analyze the ninja cold wallet address graph espringe made ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=745422.msg9177067#msg9177067 ), the funds diverge from the reported bankroll total in September.

this coincides with akcoin starting to gamble really big on other dice sites, until finally going bust and losing 1200+ btc to primedice/stunna

there will probably be no more refunds, because stunna has your money now

degens goin degen. this makes sense with the graph. i know he also played on peerbet, maybe cbtc tim can interject as well.

[sherbyspark]

It might be a good to check on all the recent sites AK has played on for the IP's, and the addresses where the funds went from the cold wallet. Wouldn't at some point they end up in PD's hot wallet?

[casinobitco]

He actually won 25 BTC from peerbet.

since someone has decided to go public:

akcoin and dmf shared the same ip address, confirmed by the administrators of moneypot and just-dice.
dooglus has not publically said so, but no doubt will soon

also akcoin funded his gambling sprees to the deposit addresses of several dice sites by sending directly from dice ninja's 1ninja address.

if you analyze the ninja cold wallet address graph espringe made ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=745422.msg9177067#msg9177067 ), the funds diverge from the reported bankroll total in September.

this coincides with akcoin starting to gamble really big on other dice sites, until finally going bust and losing 1200+ btc to primedice/stunna

there will probably be no more refunds, because stunna has your money now

degens goin degen. this makes sense with the graph. i know he also played on peerbet, maybe cbtc tim can interject as well.