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[imp0ster]

Was it said in this thread that the IP addresses were the same on JD and MP? I can only find that dooglus said that AK and dmf used the same IP address, but he didn't explicitly mention the IP nor did he say it was the same as the one on MP. Did i miss that information?

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Can you give us more info about the IP addresses. Either revealing them explicitly or checking if they have been Tor exit nodes at the dates in question?

dooglus and Eric both confirmed the 206.174.121.150 address as having registered on their sites, it was posted in this thread and dooglus confirmed on JD chat. AKcoindigger nick was registered on JD 1 month before DMF was registered using the same IP.

On july 1st DMF used that account on JD, on july 1 that IP was not a Tor exit node, the full list of exit nodes for any specific day and hour is available here: https://collector.torproject.org/archive/exit-lists/

[wayshegoes]

There looks like some weird level of involvement by AK but it's just not clear. Maybe there isn't any.

I don't know if this is relevant or has been mentioned but the first time I talked to AK was just before JD closed. He was saying how he got so rich from JPC (jackpot coin [JPCdice]). I checked exchanges and for whatever reason, it was booming, and AK had a lot of it. I distinctly remember him "taking out a 50 BTC buy wall". Maybe he just mined them all and was lucky. I would wager that is what happened but I don't know. It was the same time AK refunded a random newbie gambler on just-dice (user 1ruru made a reddit thread about it; dooglus can probably confirm).

I remember just a few weeks after he "busted" on DiceBitco.in, losing about 100 BTC total and said he would never return or gamble again. (I could be wrong on this, maybe he lost it on PrimeDice, not sure it matters). At this point it was never clear how much BTC he owned but he seemed very angry to lose 100 BTC at the time.

Fast forward to the last month where he has been gambling daily, like crazy, losing up to 1000 BTC. Is he 10 times more annoyed now because he lost 10 times more of his own coin, or was it other people's BTC all along?

[blockage]

dooglus and Eric both confirmed the 206.174.121.150 address as having registered on their sites, it was posted in this thread and dooglus confirmed on JD chat. AKcoindigger nick was registered on JD 1 month before DMF was registered using the same IP.

On july 1st DMF used that account on JD, on july 1 that IP was not a Tor exit node, the full list of exit nodes for any specific day and hour is available here: https://collector.torproject.org/archive/exit-lists/

dooglus didn't confirm it in this thread AFAIK, but I also got the confirmation now from elsewhere. quite interestingly 206.174.121.150 has been used in June on JD and in August on MP, so 2 months later. is there a way to check if an IP is not assigned dynamically but is indeed static?

[imp0ster]

dooglus and Eric both confirmed the 206.174.121.150 address as having registered on their sites, it was posted in this thread and dooglus confirmed on JD chat. AKcoindigger nick was registered on JD 1 month before DMF was registered using the same IP.

On july 1st DMF used that account on JD, on july 1 that IP was not a Tor exit node, the full list of exit nodes for any specific day and hour is available here: https://collector.torproject.org/archive/exit-lists/

dooglus didn't confirm it in this thread AFAIK, but I also got the confirmation now from elsewhere. quite interestingly 206.174.121.150 has been used in June on JD and in August on MP, so 2 months later. is there a way to check if an IP is not assigned dynamically but is indeed static?

Yeah, so another lie btw, he said his IP changes every few weeks. May I ask where you got the information from? The more sources we have the better.

[blockage]

Yeah, so another lie btw, he said his IP changes every few weeks. May I ask where you got the information from? The more sources we have the better.

Eric posted the info from MP in this thread

These is the date, and ip address that I am 100% certain dmf was using:

August 2  -- 206.174.121.150
August 4  -- 206.174.121.150
August 14  -- 66.223.177.52
August 24 -- 66.223.177.52

and over Skype i got that 206.174.121.150 was used Tue Jun 24 2014 15:01:21 GMT+0000 (UTC) on JD

[abovemike]

These is the date, and ip address that I am 100% certain dmf was using:

August 2  -- 206.174.121.150
August 4  -- 206.174.121.150
August 14  -- 66.223.177.52
August 24 -- 66.223.177.52

from the admin of another dice site, i can confirm an account of akcoindigger's gambled during the month of september with ip address 206.174.121.150

[camouflage]

When I suddenly got it :

Unfortunately, I never got those messages, and to top it off my skype account was apparently hacked some time in the last few days, and I've just regained control of it.

Blaming a hacker... fucking degen

Lol.. There will always be a person who's trying to outsmart a very smart system. When they get caught, its either they blame the brother of something was hacked.

[suchmoon]

They did do a "hacker" story. Did you miss it?

Well, that was after the "run". And to be fair we assumed it was a "hacker", the message didn't say it quite like that: "Official Statement: Our accounts have been compromised, and we have suffered a large loss of data and funds. We are working to reconstruct balance data from what backups remain. Refunds will be sent to the best of our ability. We are sorry for the hardships our complacency and ineptitude have caused. We will not be reopening. DMF and T04D". Knowing the context, if you squint just right, could it mean "we/I blew it all on PD"?

I was thinking that a "run" paints a much larger target on your back, while a "hacker" story could perhaps be managed to be less damaging. But you're right, I'm not thinking as a gambler. And with the evidence now snowballing it hardly matters anyway.

[casinobitco]

FWIW - AK played on https://www.peerbet.org with the same IP address, 206.174.121.150 - this was about 2 months ago. He went on a sick run, turned 1.5 BTC into 25 BTC.

He hasn't played on PeerBet since.

[omahapoker]

1NinjabSP8jQAVaA8y9u5fsjNpB5S22xPv was the dice.ninja cold wallet, every transaction from 6 oct until it went bust ends up in the 17U1LyjKzm2tr8LjpYkFGtvburfyG1rd9q AK PD deposit address, the return addresses send the remaining funds to AK PD address and so on. Those are incidentally also the last transactions from the 1Ninja address.

I just checked out the blockchain, looking at the transactions that emptied the 1ninja cold wallet. I see a total 970 BTC being sent to AK's PD deposit address from dice.ninja's cold wallet in just 2 nights, as follows:

https://blockchain.info/tx/e2ace1184711b0f992d5f78091dd04af2e4700888dde044abd3cdbc86fadb652
30      2014-10-06 23:58:43
30      2014-10-07 00:45:52
30      2014-10-07 01:01:24
10      2014-10-07 01:37:29

uhm...i'm not sure if I get this. 970btc were sent from the diceninja coldwallet to AK's primedice account? as far as I can remember he was never up that much on diceninja. he was up around 270BTC in the end, after losing around 500BTC (he was also down a few BTC with other accounts), so these numbers don't seem to match up, unless i miss something important...

people seem to forget before AK lost 1200 coins. he won 800-900 coins from other dice sites in the last 2 weeks. after winning from a dice site he used to come over and talk to me on PM  at ninja. he keep all of his gambling coins at ninja account.

[wayshegoes]

What sites? He's down a few hundred on PRC. Did he lose anything on DB?

[omahapoker]

What sites? He's down a few hundred on PRC. Did he lose anything on DB?

he may been down at prc overall, but he won i think 300-400 in last few days before ninja went down

at DB i think he 160 or so

he won i think 100 at peerbet

before losing 1200 at PD he won 500-600 at PD

i think he won 100 at dice now

won 100 at ninja 4-5 days before ninja down

won 400 at ninja in last month


he did win 400 at bitdice last 2 weeks beforebut then lost it all 24 hours later

he won a few other places but im too lazy to go look and post. maybe later

[lolled]

What sites? He's down a few hundred on PRC. Did he lose anything on DB?

he may been down at prc overall, but he won i think 300-400 in last few days before ninja went down

at DB i think he 160 or so

he won i think 100 at peerbet

before losing 1200 at PD he won 500-600 at PD

i think he won 100 at dice now

won 100 at ninja 4-5 days before ninja down

won 400 at ninja in last month


he did win 400 at bitdice last 2 weeks beforebut then lost it all 24 hours later

he won a few other places but im too lazy to go look and post. maybe later

Really CBI? , its funny you are supporting him without any reason.
No He is not up on PRC, he is down around 200-300 there.
Before losing at PD he did win some, but eventually lost it all + an extra 800.
no idea about dice now.
At peerbet he just won 25 BTC.
No he did not win 100 at ninja 4-5 days before. The profit was at -200 for a long time.
He won 350 last month, but if he owns the site that he could easily win.
On Bitdice, He didn't win rather lost it all.....He won like 50, and lost 400 to the site. -350 there.

Do the math.
He also doesn't have to lose the entire amount. If I have a fucking invest site, and out of 1700 I lose 1400, I would still try and shutdown the site when I have 300 left, as no point in coming back, because its already insolvent.

[snarlpill]

Well these new developments certainly look pretty damning. It seems either AK at Least had some weird level of involvement in this, or dmf/to4d went to great lengths setting up the long con + frame of AK (not impossible; if you're going to set-up anyone in the BTC world there would be no better person to set-up). AK has also been caught up in some lies/inconsistencies about his IP address and TOR node. He has also not posted proof of his own large stash prior to Dice.Ninja from mining as he said he would. However, if you look back through JoeMattie's post history, you will certainly see him mentioning mining a lot, and proving he was mining several altcoins at one point in time. Personally I think the early BTC adopter/miner with a large stash of BTC still seems plausible, even if he is directly involved with Dice.Ninja and/or Cold Wallet funds later on. Unfortunately while looking through his past posts, I have been proven wrong about one of my previous notes:

-I've never seen AK even mention anything remotely close to coding knowledge (I know that doesn't necessarily mean shit, but still)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=259750.msg2771381#msg2771381

While bit-loot.com =/= the coding level required for Dice.Ninja, it certainly proves he had some knowledge of coding. Also....

I'd be really interested in testing this.  I currently uses Django/Mezzanine/Cartridge with Stripe.com for my USD based webstore and I want to implement alt-coin support.   I'd be happy to help write a Django api for this as well.

Also, I've noted that he never posted in the actual Dice.Ninja thread. And while this is slightly odd as he posted in a lot of gambling threads, he never really posted in the PrimeDice thread either, and obviously we know he played a lot there.

I'm not quite ready to hang him for involvement in Dice.Ninja, but he certainly has some inconsistencies he needs to come back and clear up. I didn't want to believe this was true. Say it ain't so, Joe...

[snarlpill]

Also- to the people doing blockchain analysis and other investigations, and to the people adding things up and pointing out his involvement in this-
Have some balls and post it from your own account instead of making a new account. In my opinion, creating new members just to post proof damages the credibility of the claims being made slightly, and just further muddies up the waters around here. Especially when some anonymous person/people have run off with a lot of funds lately, having new members popping up left and right making claims could be whoever hiding behind other accounts. Be accountable for your actions- if you've done the investigative work and found proofs, back them up with your current account and reputation. Just my opinion.

[BBmmBB]

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You're not thinking like a gambler.

The obvious way to recover the lose coins is to gamble and win. The site wasn't going to make much in the way of commission for a long time, since it was at a large negative profit (unless you believe 'divest' was a real player, not a last ditch attempt to attract new investors). "Borrow" a few coins from the bankroll, gamble at PD, recover the losses, repay the bankroll and everything's OK. Except you lose at PD, so need to borrow a few more. Etc. Until the bankroll is empty.

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no no no ... ak is not that stupid he knew he was going to "lose" them there !     lmfao


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..... They did do a "hacker" story. Did you miss it? ...

^can you say TRADEFORTRESS? 

[BBmmBB]

So a fucking degen gambler stole our money, lost it, and now a filthy rich dice site owner has no remorse keeping stolen money.

This community is rotten. I think I'm done with BTC.

stunna is a confirmed lying scumbag so this would make perfect sense!  


stunna + nil + tradefortress ...~... the list continues .....

[jaysabi]

The real identity of DMF is Joe Mattie, aka AKCoinDiggger. Based on his sloppiness not covering his ip addresses on multiple sites, and funding gambling accounts directly from cold storage, I believe that he always had intentions of operating a legitimate site and only planned on borrowed investor money to recover personal loses. When things went south, he didn't want to run an insolvent site and to protect people against further loses he made the site dark.


The whole thing appears to be a rather unfortunate story, and I think we should reserve judgment and pitchforks until we hear Joe's side. I know many people would not follow with me, but if you Joe were to create a list of people and amounts owed -- and offer some sort of repayment plan -- I would give a re-opened dice.ninja a second chance. In this arrangement I would expect the roll-server and cold-storage to be under dooglus's control. I think you had a real passion and talent and it's sad to see how things have ended up for you, and your investors.

Thanks,
Eric

WOW. I missed posts from yesterday and this thing just got all levels of crazy. Catching up on 4 more pages.

THIS IS BETTER THAN TV!

[BBmmBB]

There is one more possibility .

Maybe dmf cleaned out cold wallet by sending it to his account on pd and make it look like AK lost it all on pd . Timing was perfect.

While AK was losing his own money dmf sends money to pd deposit addy from cold wallet , and makes it look like its AK who done that , and also gets free mixing service.

We again need to hear AK side of the story.



As for Stunna and pd, well my point of view is that when u come and deposit , pd shouldn't care who u are, what u do , where did u get that money and how , when u come to gambling site and deposit money its considered urs money , when u win money there , that is urs money, when u lose money there , that is casino money now.
But Stunna might have other opinion on that and im not even sure he is aware of this situation yet. So we will see if he will take some actions when he sees this thread.  

^it's called receiving stolen property !   

[BBmmBB]

When I suddenly got it :

Unfortunately, I never got those messages, and to top it off my skype account was apparently hacked some time in the last few days, and I've just regained control of it.

Blaming a hacker... fucking degen

all other excuses fale ...ummm :   I WAS HACKED!!!!         ~ TRUST ME!!!! lol