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Wow! Looks like a quick 200th rental Someone have a good KARMA! Happy for you, whoever! I have a question: this are his stats : "hashrate1m": "169T", "hashrate5m": "167T", "hashrate1hr": "146T", "hashrate1d": "15.2T", "hashrate7d": "2.48T", "lastupdate": 1446420514, "workers": 3, How can he have only 3 workers for 169TH ?
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November 01, 2015, 11:32:14 PM |
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I have a question:
this are his stats :
"hashrate1m": "169T", "hashrate5m": "167T", "hashrate1hr": "146T", "hashrate1d": "15.2T", "hashrate7d": "2.48T", "lastupdate": 1446420514, "workers": 3,
How can he have only 3 workers for 169TH ?
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hodedowe
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November 01, 2015, 11:32:41 PM |
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Workers does not equal machines. You can have any number of machines contributing on one worker.
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Solo mining is alive and profitable! Helped? Thanks! 1CXRFh4bDVFBsUzoHMMDbTMPcBP14RUTus
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Ziploc
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November 01, 2015, 11:37:41 PM |
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I have a question:
this are his stats :
"hashrate1m": "169T", "hashrate5m": "167T", "hashrate1hr": "146T", "hashrate1d": "15.2T", "hashrate7d": "2.48T", "lastupdate": 1446420514, "workers": 3,
How can he have only 3 workers for 169TH ?
Proxy Thank You CK, Does it mean that few ''proxied" workers work on the same block in the same time ? like 1 miner for example s7 does 4,5TH and ''proxied'' workers do 100th ?
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-ck (OP)
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November 01, 2015, 11:40:05 PM |
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Thank You CK,
Does it mean that few ''proxied" workers work on the same block in the same time ? like 1 miner
for example s7 does 4,5TH and ''proxied'' workers do 100th ?
Everyone always works on the same block all the time everywhere irrespective of who or what they're mining with and which pool they're on.
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Ziploc
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November 01, 2015, 11:46:05 PM |
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Thank You CK,
Does it mean that few ''proxied" workers work on the same block in the same time ? like 1 miner
for example s7 does 4,5TH and ''proxied'' workers do 100th ?
Everyone always works on the same block all the time everywhere irrespective of who or what they're mining with and which pool they're on. ah ok, what's is the concrete advantage of having a faster miner ? or more hash power like s3 vs s7 ? I was always thiking that everyone was working on a different block in a round and whoever found it first, reset the round and all start over... I guess I have to read more....
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philipma1957
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November 02, 2015, 12:01:28 AM |
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Thank You CK,
Does it mean that few ''proxied" workers work on the same block in the same time ? like 1 miner
for example s7 does 4,5TH and ''proxied'' workers do 100th ?
Everyone always works on the same block all the time everywhere irrespective of who or what they're mining with and which pool they're on. ah ok, what's is the concrete advantage of having a faster miner ? or more hash power like s3 vs s7 ? I was always thiking that everyone was working on a different block in a round and whoever found it first, reset the round and all start over... I guess I have to read more.... the s3 tosses "magic dice" 500gh a second the s7 tosses magic dice 4860gh a second so the s7 is about 9.5 x faster then the s3 or you need 9.5 s3's to do the work of 1 s7
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November 02, 2015, 12:03:58 AM |
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I have a question:
this are his stats :
"hashrate1m": "169T", "hashrate5m": "167T", "hashrate1hr": "146T", "hashrate1d": "15.2T", "hashrate7d": "2.48T", "lastupdate": 1446420514, "workers": 3,
How can he have only 3 workers for 169TH ?
Proxy Congrats that's real good luck!
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Ziploc
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November 02, 2015, 12:15:21 AM |
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Thank You CK,
Does it mean that few ''proxied" workers work on the same block in the same time ? like 1 miner
for example s7 does 4,5TH and ''proxied'' workers do 100th ?
Everyone always works on the same block all the time everywhere irrespective of who or what they're mining with and which pool they're on. ah ok, what's is the concrete advantage of having a faster miner ? or more hash power like s3 vs s7 ? I was always thiking that everyone was working on a different block in a round and whoever found it first, reset the round and all start over... I guess I have to read more.... the s3 tosses "magic dice" 500gh a second the s7 tosses magic dice 4860gh a second so the s7 is about 9.5 x faster then the s3 or you need 9.5 s3's to do the work of 1 s7 this I can uderstand...and it's very logical but going back to my 1st question.. proxied miner than run 100TH will be 200x faster than 1 s3 ? therefore 200 times more chances to resolve the block ? which means for the purpose of the argument: let say that this 100TH is in reallity 100*s5 then which is better ? 100TH proxied 100*s5 OR 100* separate s5 ? and why ?
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-ck (OP)
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November 02, 2015, 12:19:53 AM |
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let say that this 100TH is in reallity 100*s5 then which is better ? 100TH proxied 100*s5 OR 100* separate s5 ? and why ? Only total hashrate matters. The rest is irrelevant.
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philipma1957
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November 02, 2015, 12:31:27 AM |
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Thank You CK,
Does it mean that few ''proxied" workers work on the same block in the same time ? like 1 miner
for example s7 does 4,5TH and ''proxied'' workers do 100th ?
Everyone always works on the same block all the time everywhere irrespective of who or what they're mining with and which pool they're on. ah ok, what's is the concrete advantage of having a faster miner ? or more hash power like s3 vs s7 ? I was always thiking that everyone was working on a different block in a round and whoever found it first, reset the round and all start over... I guess I have to read more.... the s3 tosses "magic dice" 500gh a second the s7 tosses magic dice 4860gh a second so the s7 is about 9.5 x faster then the s3 or you need 9.5 s3's to do the work of 1 s7 this I can uderstand...and it's very logical but going back to my 1st question.. proxied miner than run 100TH will be 200x faster than 1 s3 ? therefore 200 times more chances to resolve the block ? which means for the purpose of the argument: let say that this 100TH is in reallity 100*s5 then which is better ? 100TH proxied 100*s5 OR 100* separate s5 ? and why ? Assuming the proxy is setup correctly and all 100 separate s5's are setup correctly it should be a tie.
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Ziploc
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November 02, 2015, 12:35:06 AM |
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let say that this 100TH is in reallity 100*s5 then which is better ? 100TH proxied 100*s5 OR 100* separate s5 ? and why ? Only total hashrate matters. The rest is irrelevant. Thank You again and I know you're one of the gurus....honestly (plz don't take me wrong or disprespectfull, I just want to undersand and grasp it) I want to fully understand and i have a hard time to beleive that, let say; 100 000 block eruptors will beat a new generation miner let say 1st gen miner (eruptor) calculates 10 hash/s.....like a bicycle that goes 6mph and the new one does 100 000 hashes/second........... like a sports car that does 100mph therefore before the 100 000 eruptors reches the finish line at 6mph the sports car will able to make it 10 times back and forth.... then even if 100 000 eruptors may have more total hash power that newer miner....they don't stand any chances ? isn't this right ? like 100 bicycles doesn't stand a chance to race with a race car....because they just 100 very slow moving objects.... isn't this like that with the mininig ?
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November 02, 2015, 12:40:35 AM Last edit: November 02, 2015, 01:07:00 AM by os2sam |
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100 000 block eruptors will beat a new generation miner?
100,000 BE's would mine at 33.3 Ths. So if the new generation miner is less than 33.3Ths then yes they would, most likely, beat the new gen miner. Miles per hour is not a valid analogy. Mining is not a race.
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philipma1957
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November 02, 2015, 12:41:21 AM |
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let say that this 100TH is in reallity 100*s5 then which is better ? 100TH proxied 100*s5 OR 100* separate s5 ? and why ? Only total hashrate matters. The rest is irrelevant. Thank You again and I know you're one of the gurus....honestly (plz don't take me wrong or disprespectfull, I just want to undersand and grasp it) I want to fully understand and i have a hard time to beleive that, let say; 100 000 block eruptors will beat a new generation miner let say 1st gen miner (eruptor) calculates 10 hash/s.....like a bicycle that goes 6mph and the new one does 100 000 hashes/second........... like a sports car that does 100mph therefore before the 100 000 eruptors reches the finish line at 6mph the sports car will able to make it 10 times back and forth.... then even if 100 000 eruptors may have more total hash power that newer miner....they don't stand any chances ? isn't this right ? like 100 bicycles doesn't stand a chance to race with a race car....because they just 100 very slow moving objects.... isn't this like that with the mininig ? completely wrong concept. like os2sam told you it is not a race everytime you toss the "magic dice" you can win so 100,000 BE = 33,000gh that should make more blocks then 5 s-7's which are 24,000gh the magic dice is a number generator say from 0 to infinite everytime the dice spin higher then 62.5 billion you win a block. one of my sidehack usb compac sticks at 9gh -10gh tossed a 2 billion number, right now I have 10th in a rental http://solo.ckpool.org/users/1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtjeand it has only tossed 136,144,419.04909989 far less then 2 billion
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Ziploc
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November 02, 2015, 01:15:02 AM |
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the magic dice is a number generator say from 0 to infinite
everytime the dice spin higher then 62.5 billion you win a block.
Ok I follow that too.... but generating this magic number does take time and bigger number, longer is the time, no ? then the generation speed doesn't count ?
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Ziploc
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November 02, 2015, 01:17:20 AM |
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and all this....because I'm courious about this hash renting
I want to understand if it's relevant to rent better faster equippement or no matter how many miners as long the total hash is greater...
and for how long....
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November 02, 2015, 01:23:48 AM |
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but generating this magic number does take time and bigger number, longer is the time, no ?
No. Each roll of the 62.3 Billion sided die has an equal chance of landing on the winning side. Higher hash rate means more roll's of the die in a given period of time.
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November 02, 2015, 01:26:38 AM |
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and all this....because I'm courious about this hash renting
I want to understand if it's relevant to rent better faster equippement or no matter how many miners as long the total hash is greater...
and for how long....
Well, if you rent 456253.85Ths you should find a block in about 10 minutes.
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Ziploc
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November 02, 2015, 01:30:35 AM |
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and all this....because I'm courious about this hash renting
I want to understand if it's relevant to rent better faster equippement or no matter how many miners as long the total hash is greater...
and for how long....
Well, if you rent 456253.85Ths you should find a block in about 10 minutes. whish I could...lol that means that 3.1 peta would find a block within 24hrs? what's the exact equation you've used to calculate that ?
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