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September 08, 2014, 05:00:46 PM |
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Fucking hell. Are you kids completely incapable of giving anybody the benefit of the doubt? You keep repeating the same tirades over and over again keeping this useless argument at the front of the forum. Manl paid back bitcoins to the best of his ability. Case closed. Fucking get over your circle jerk.
Stop giving him the benefit of the doubt. Anyone related to a site that has crashed and burned should be GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT. Not to get on his nerves but to decide if it was in fact a scam. Mt. Gox was given benefit of doubt, look where that got us.
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Martijnvdc
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September 08, 2014, 05:01:57 PM |
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Give me back my 0.3 BTC! 1HszoAk4WCfthq93NJm9J7XFSputmxE2sk
Jeesh, i'm not going to recommend bitcoin to anyone else... The technology behind the bitcoin protocol seems very reliable to me, but the community just sucks... Nothing but dishonest people. I have been scammed so many times, even though i myself have been so honest to others. I made a zero-profit bitcoin faucet handing out so much money, i helped people repair their bitcoin wallets containing ten's of BTC, never asking a bitcent in return. And yet i'm the one who always gets scammed one way or another.
No more bitcoin investing for me...
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September 08, 2014, 05:03:24 PM |
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You just popped up out of nowhere, anonymous and no real track record yet everyone flocked to you and trusted you because of dooglus. Now you recommend another site that has been around even less time? Ridiculous. To be fair to Dice.ninja this is not their first dice site. They are also the developers and admins of Jpcdice.com and Darkdice.net. Although Dice.ninja is only a few weeks old they have been running dice sites for much longer.
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a1choi
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September 08, 2014, 05:05:15 PM |
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Give me back my 0.3 BTC! 1HszoAk4WCfthq93NJm9J7XFSputmxE2sk
Jeesh, i'm not going to recommend bitcoin to anyone else... The technology behind the bitcoin protocol seems very reliable to me, but the community just sucks... Nothing but dishonest people. I have been scammed so many times, even though i myself have been so honest to others. I made a zero-profit bitcoin faucet handing out so much money, i helped people repair their bitcoin wallets containing ten's of BTC, never asking a bitcent in return. And yet i'm the one who always gets scammed one way or another.
No more bitcoin investing for me...
don't say bitcoin is poop because of this. the protocol and technology have little to do with the people doing business in bitcoins. i would say please protect yourself. trust is at a minimal in a trustless currency protocol. we'll have to learn to abide by new rules in which we protect ourselves from harmful situations.
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September 08, 2014, 05:05:38 PM |
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You just popped up out of nowhere, anonymous and no real track record yet everyone flocked to you and trusted you because of dooglus. Now you recommend another site that has been around even less time? Ridiculous. To be fair to Dice.ninja this is not their first dice site. They are also the developers and admins of Jpcdice.com and Darkdice.net. Although Dice.ninja is only a few weeks old they have been running dice sites for much longer. I can vouch for this fact.
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September 08, 2014, 05:05:49 PM |
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You just popped up out of nowhere, anonymous and no real track record yet everyone flocked to you and trusted you because of dooglus. Now you recommend another site that has been around even less time? Ridiculous. To be fair to Dice.ninja this is not their first dice site. They are also the developers and admins of Jpcdice.com and Darkdice.net. Although Dice.ninja is only a few weeks old they have been running dice sites for much longer. so a newbbie defending these sites, this got to be suspicious? any others can confirm the facts about this?
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September 08, 2014, 05:06:51 PM |
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Fucking hell. Are you kids completely incapable of giving anybody the benefit of the doubt? You keep repeating the same tirades over and over again keeping this useless argument at the front of the forum. Manl paid back bitcoins to the best of his ability. Case closed. Fucking get over your circle jerk.
Stop giving him the benefit of the doubt. Anyone related to a site that has crashed and burned should be GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT. Not to get on his nerves but to decide if it was in fact a scam. Mt. Gox was given benefit of doubt, look where that got us. And how will anybody benefit if this is indeed proven as a "scam" Ever since I've joined the Bitcoin community, I've grown to loathe that word.
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Martijnvdc
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September 08, 2014, 05:07:03 PM |
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Give me back my 0.3 BTC! 1HszoAk4WCfthq93NJm9J7XFSputmxE2sk
Jeesh, i'm not going to recommend bitcoin to anyone else... The technology behind the bitcoin protocol seems very reliable to me, but the community just sucks... Nothing but dishonest people. I have been scammed so many times, even though i myself have been so honest to others. I made a zero-profit bitcoin faucet handing out so much money, i helped people repair their bitcoin wallets containing ten's of BTC, never asking a bitcent in return. And yet i'm the one who always gets scammed one way or another.
No more bitcoin investing for me...
don't say bitcoin is poop because of this. the protocol and technology have little to do with the people doing business in bitcoins. i would say please protect yourself. trust is at a minimal in a trustless currency protocol. we'll have to learn to abide by new rules in which we protect ourselves from harmful situations. I know. I fully trust the bitcoin protocol. But definetly not the community. I will be more careful simply by not using anything that's centralised.
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September 08, 2014, 05:07:57 PM |
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You just popped up out of nowhere, anonymous and no real track record yet everyone flocked to you and trusted you because of dooglus. Now you recommend another site that has been around even less time? Ridiculous. To be fair to Dice.ninja this is not their first dice site. They are also the developers and admins of Jpcdice.com and Darkdice.net. Although Dice.ninja is only a few weeks old they have been running dice sites for much longer. Yes I know, they have a couple others, they are all still relatively new though. They also claimed to never have heard of PRC. If I was investing in a new site I would expect them to at least know their competition especially if they had a few sites and are supported heavily by omahapoker of cryptobettingindex, that site which lists all the top dice sites of which PRC is 2nd on the list for top investment.
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September 08, 2014, 05:09:03 PM |
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Martijnvdc, I sympathise with you. I have 0.1 BTC sitting in DB, been trying to withdraw for hours. Seeing their hot and cold wallet is dry, and that I don't get any feedback from the support ticketing system, it is starting to look very bad.
Should I wait? Anyone in the same situation? Anyone with more information?
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September 08, 2014, 05:09:43 PM |
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You just popped up out of nowhere, anonymous and no real track record yet everyone flocked to you and trusted you because of dooglus. Now you recommend another site that has been around even less time? Ridiculous. To be fair to Dice.ninja this is not their first dice site. They are also the developers and admins of Jpcdice.com and Darkdice.net. Although Dice.ninja is only a few weeks old they have been running dice sites for much longer. Look what happened when DiceBitcoin used that as 'trust' "oh we already have a big litecoin dice site, so please trust us". Nope
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September 08, 2014, 05:11:11 PM |
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Fucking hell. Are you kids completely incapable of giving anybody the benefit of the doubt? You keep repeating the same tirades over and over again keeping this useless argument at the front of the forum. Manl paid back bitcoins to the best of his ability. Case closed. Fucking get over your circle jerk.
Stop giving him the benefit of the doubt. Anyone related to a site that has crashed and burned should be GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT. Not to get on his nerves but to decide if it was in fact a scam. Mt. Gox was given benefit of doubt, look where that got us. And how will anybody benefit if this is indeed proven as a "scam" Ever since I've joined the Bitcoin community, I've grown to loathe that word. People will stop discussing wether or not he was trustworthy. It will be case close, finished, done. Next thing.
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September 08, 2014, 05:12:06 PM |
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Only imaginary golden buttcoins were lost... in an illegal gambling site. So basically no legal action can be taken. Still... Why don't we try to build a social profile for this shithead(s). Put a name on the suspect(s) (notice I didn't say thief/scammer). Collecting all chat history, hints (timezone etc.)... Judging from his below average intelligence, his "good" coding skills, his arrogance, etc.. I'd say it's - a male
- in his early 20s
- not a native US or UK citizen, most probably RU, UA
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@dicebitcoin 1) You're guilty. You(they) and his relatives are in immediate danger. You'll hide as long as you can. You take the risk of getting caught and... god know what can happen. 2) You're not (that) guilty. You(they) and his relatives are in immediate danger. You'll hide as long as you can. You take the risk of getting caught and... god know what can happen. 3) You're guilty. You go public (real name, contact info etc) and you confess. So you may get some kind of attention, seek some security. Still, you take the risk of facing someone who wants his buttcoins (or justice) and... only god knows the rest. 4) You're not (that) guilty. You go public (real name, contact info etc) and tell "the thruth" (your side of story). So you may get some kind of attention, seek some security. Still, you take the risk of facing someone who want buttcoins (or justice) and... only god knows what can happen. I have the feeling you want to be believe that 5) You're not (that) guilty. You don't go public. You've already told your side of the story. Still, you take the risk of facing someone who want buttcoins (or justice) and... only god knows what can happen. From my POV basically you're fucked. Feel free come here and confess how (un)safe you feel anytime. Scenario 48484) you've come to an arrangement with the thief because you (or he) threatened him (you) with death. Buh.. I really want to know the only TRUE story.
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September 08, 2014, 05:13:44 PM |
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Martijnvdc, I sympathise with you. I have 0.1 BTC sitting in DB, been trying to withdraw for hours. Seeing their hot and cold wallet is dry, and that I don't get any feedback from the support ticketing system, it is starting to look very bad.
Should I wait? Anyone in the same situation? Anyone with more information?
Wait a bit and I'm sure they will respond.
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September 08, 2014, 05:15:02 PM |
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September 08, 2014, 05:16:11 PM |
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Only imaginary golden buttcoins were lost... in an illegal gambling site. So basically no legal action can be taken. Still... Why don't we try to build a social profile for this shithead(s). Put a name on the suspect(s) (notice I didn't say thief/scammer). Collecting all chat history, hints (timezone etc.)... Judging from his below average intelligence, his "good" coding skills, his arrogance, etc.. I'd say it's - a male
- in his early 20s
- not a native US or UK citizen, most probably RU, UA
- ...any idea ?
@dicebitcoin 1) You're guilty. You(they) and his relatives are in immediate danger. You'll hide as long as you can. You take the risk of getting caught and... god know what can happen. 2) You're not (that) guilty. You(they) and his relatives are in immediate danger. You'll hide as long as you can. You take the risk of getting caught and... god know what can happen. 3) You're guilty. You go public (real name, contact info etc) and you confess. So you may get some kind of attention, seek some security. Still, you take the risk of facing someone who wants his buttcoins (or justice) and... only god knows the rest. 4) You're not (that) guilty. You go public (real name, contact info etc) and tell "the thruth" (your side of story). So you may get some kind of attention, seek some security. Still, you take the risk of facing someone who want buttcoins (or justice) and... only god knows what can happen. I have the feeling you want to be believe that 5) You're not (that) guilty. You don't go public. You've already told your side of the story. Still, you take the risk of facing someone who want buttcoins (or justice) and... only god knows what can happen. From my POV basically you're fucked. Feel free come here and confess how (un)safe you feel anytime. Scenario 48484) you've come to an arrangement with the thief because you (or he) threatened him (you) with death. Buh.. I really want to know the only TRUE story. people will doxx him as many have lost hundreds of BTC so in irl its going to be tough
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September 08, 2014, 05:22:26 PM |
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This is amazing ! Very very amazing ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) .
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September 08, 2014, 05:23:12 PM |
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Only imaginary golden buttcoins were lost... in an illegal gambling site. So basically no legal action can be taken. Still... Why don't we try to build a social profile for this shithead(s). Put a name on the suspect(s) (notice I didn't say thief/scammer). Collecting all chat history, hints (timezone etc.)... Judging from his below average intelligence, his "good" coding skills, his arrogance, etc.. I'd say it's - a male
- in his early 20s
- not a native US or UK citizen, most probably RU, UA
- ...any idea ?
@dicebitcoin 1) You're guilty. You(they) and his relatives are in immediate danger. You'll hide as long as you can. You take the risk of getting caught and... god know what can happen. 2) You're not (that) guilty. You(they) and his relatives are in immediate danger. You'll hide as long as you can. You take the risk of getting caught and... god know what can happen. 3) You're guilty. You go public (real name, contact info etc) and you confess. So you may get some kind of attention, seek some security. Still, you take the risk of facing someone who wants his buttcoins (or justice) and... only god knows the rest. 4) You're not (that) guilty. You go public (real name, contact info etc) and tell "the thruth" (your side of story). So you may get some kind of attention, seek some security. Still, you take the risk of facing someone who want buttcoins (or justice) and... only god knows what can happen. I have the feeling you want to be believe that 5) You're not (that) guilty. You don't go public. You've already told your side of the story. Still, you take the risk of facing someone who want buttcoins (or justice) and... only god knows what can happen. From my POV basically you're fucked. Feel free come here and confess how (un)safe you feel anytime. Scenario 48484) you've come to an arrangement with the thief because you (or he) threatened him (you) with death. Buh.. I really want to know the only TRUE story. Likely scenario is that people will attempt to acquire a full dox of him. I can already imagine him coming back and "arranging a deal with the thief, where the thief agreed to pay half back, blahblahblah." This would be a sure sign he was in fact the scammer (probably). This situation is not unlike everydice.
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September 08, 2014, 05:24:09 PM |
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I think their mistake was to not halt betting when the issue was discovered. This would likely have stopped a panic among plays and investors which lead to the decline of his credibility. If betting was halted then they could have looked at the code very closely to make sure there are not any other outstanding issues that could cause problems.
Their second mistake was to rush to refund people's losses right away. They should have kept track of the losses, investigated thoroughly to make sure the losses were legitimate and if so issue a refund. Handing out these refunds likely scarred investors away which ultimately lead to having a bank roll that is not capable of sustaining a little bit of bad luck.
I also would have certainly rolled back all of mateo's bets. Him winning that much is just not realistic. The odds of him having that great of a winning streak are just not there. He had to have somehow had advance knowledge of the server seed and acted accordingly. This is another reason why betting should have been stopped and why the code should have been more closely inspected.
I would not say 100% that this was in fact a scam by dicebitco.in as it would have been much easier to simply run off with the bankroll and delete the database with all the account information. I would however certainly say that a scam was pulled off.
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