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Now it seems FJ users have to wager x5 to make withdraw but why? I especially liked playing slots on fj but this news did bad for me. When player deposits and you request x5 wager, this means depositer will loose money in most cases. This isn't good idea, fj seems great without that. Just wanted to write my opinion here despite the fact that it won't change anything but hope you will care on it.
Wait.....where did you read wager x5 to withdraw??? He probably deposited 0.002 BTC Withdrawal fees are high, and FJ pays the fee for you, so the minimum withdrawal is 0.01 BTC. Which some say is high, but considering the fee is free which is never under 1mbtc, that's a good deal man. You don't wanna deposit 0.002, win 0.003 and withdraw 0.002 lol No one wins, neither the casino, nor you, not even the network xD Oh haha, that makes sense. However, for other currencies, there should be lower minimum withdrawal. Doge fee isn't much, haha. I've just checked the terms and condition page to make sure about it and seems he is right, there is a terms that players need to wager 5x of the deposit before withdrawal is approved. A bit surprised to read that but I think it wont be apllied to all players, maybe it is only for accounts with suspicious activity because few hours ago I made a deposit of 4800 doge and wager a bit (maybe less than my deposit) and won 24k doge then withdraw it without any issues.
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August 30, 2017, 03:00:01 AM |
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Now it seems FJ users have to wager x5 to make withdraw but why? I especially liked playing slots on fj but this news did bad for me. When player deposits and you request x5 wager, this means depositer will loose money in most cases. This isn't good idea, fj seems great without that. Just wanted to write my opinion here despite the fact that it won't change anything but hope you will care on it.
Wait.....where did you read wager x5 to withdraw??? He probably deposited 0.002 BTC Withdrawal fees are high, and FJ pays the fee for you, so the minimum withdrawal is 0.01 BTC. Which some say is high, but considering the fee is free which is never under 1mbtc, that's a good deal man. You don't wanna deposit 0.002, win 0.003 and withdraw 0.002 lol No one wins, neither the casino, nor you, not even the network xD Oh haha, that makes sense. However, for other currencies, there should be lower minimum withdrawal. Doge fee isn't much, haha. I've just checked the terms and condition page to make sure about it and seems he is right, there is a terms that players need to wager 5x of the deposit before withdrawal is approved. A bit surprised to read that but I think it wont be apllied to all players, maybe it is only for accounts with suspicious activity because few hours ago I made a deposit of 4800 doge and wager a bit (maybe less than my deposit) and won 24k doge then withdraw it without any issues. How do you know that this rule is applicable only for those suspicious activities? Did they mention in those terms? It looks like this rule is applicable for everyone and if that is true then Fortunejack is not good to play perticularly if someone playing only for fun for a limited time and want to withdraw their money before reaching 5X wagering requirement. Better admin needs to confirm on this part.
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August 30, 2017, 03:24:41 AM |
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Now it seems FJ users have to wager x5 to make withdraw but why? I especially liked playing slots on fj but this news did bad for me. When player deposits and you request x5 wager, this means depositer will loose money in most cases. This isn't good idea, fj seems great without that. Just wanted to write my opinion here despite the fact that it won't change anything but hope you will care on it.
Wait.....where did you read wager x5 to withdraw??? He probably deposited 0.002 BTC Withdrawal fees are high, and FJ pays the fee for you, so the minimum withdrawal is 0.01 BTC. Which some say is high, but considering the fee is free which is never under 1mbtc, that's a good deal man. You don't wanna deposit 0.002, win 0.003 and withdraw 0.002 lol No one wins, neither the casino, nor you, not even the network xD Oh haha, that makes sense. However, for other currencies, there should be lower minimum withdrawal. Doge fee isn't much, haha. I've just checked the terms and condition page to make sure about it and seems he is right, there is a terms that players need to wager 5x of the deposit before withdrawal is approved. A bit surprised to read that but I think it wont be apllied to all players, maybe it is only for accounts with suspicious activity because few hours ago I made a deposit of 4800 doge and wager a bit (maybe less than my deposit) and won 24k doge then withdraw it without any issues. How do you know that this rule is applicable only for those suspicious activities? Did they mention in those terms? It looks like this rule is applicable for everyone and if that is true then Fortunejack is not good to play perticularly if someone playing only for fun for a limited time and want to withdraw their money before reaching 5X wagering requirement. Better admin needs to confirm on this part. I said "I think and maybe", so that is clearly my own opinion, and based on my own experience that I did not need to wager 5x of my deposit to withdraw my winnings few hours ago. If the rule is applicable for all players, so my withdraw would not be processed few hours ago but in fact I received it instantly.
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August 30, 2017, 02:38:37 PM |
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Now it seems FJ users have to wager x5 to make withdraw but why? I especially liked playing slots on fj but this news did bad for me. When player deposits and you request x5 wager, this means depositer will loose money in most cases. This isn't good idea, fj seems great without that. Just wanted to write my opinion here despite the fact that it won't change anything but hope you will care on it.
Wait.....where did you read wager x5 to withdraw??? He probably deposited 0.002 BTC Withdrawal fees are high, and FJ pays the fee for you, so the minimum withdrawal is 0.01 BTC. Which some say is high, but considering the fee is free which is never under 1mbtc, that's a good deal man. You don't wanna deposit 0.002, win 0.003 and withdraw 0.002 lol No one wins, neither the casino, nor you, not even the network xD Actually this is written in ToS and has nothing to do with fee. AML and CTF perhaps?
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August 30, 2017, 02:43:22 PM |
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Now it seems FJ users have to wager x5 to make withdraw but why? I especially liked playing slots on fj but this news did bad for me. When player deposits and you request x5 wager, this means depositer will loose money in most cases. This isn't good idea, fj seems great without that. Just wanted to write my opinion here despite the fact that it won't change anything but hope you will care on it.
Wait.....where did you read wager x5 to withdraw??? He probably deposited 0.002 BTC Withdrawal fees are high, and FJ pays the fee for you, so the minimum withdrawal is 0.01 BTC. Which some say is high, but considering the fee is free which is never under 1mbtc, that's a good deal man. You don't wanna deposit 0.002, win 0.003 and withdraw 0.002 lol No one wins, neither the casino, nor you, not even the network xD Actually this is written in ToS and has nothing to do with fee. AML and CTF perhaps? Is that a new term at FortuneJack? I have never heard about it before and I do not see any complains from players that they could not make withdrawals because they did not meet this wagering requirement. Hope someone from Fortunejack clarify this thing, if it is true then I think it will be a bad news for players and of course will give a bad effect for Fortunejack as well.
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August 30, 2017, 10:04:37 PM Last edit: August 30, 2017, 10:32:03 PM by iluvbitcoins |
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Hmm, seems it's true https://fortunejack.com/help/termsWagering requirements apply before any deposit made on Member Account can be withdrawn. The deposit amount must be turned over 5 times before your withdrawal request will be approved. Wagering requirements can be met by playing on slots, casino games and games. I believe the rule is here to combat suspicious activity I've never had any issues withdrawing my money, and I never turned it over 5 times, not even 2 times
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August 30, 2017, 11:01:31 PM |
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Hmm, seems it's true https://fortunejack.com/help/termsWagering requirements apply before any deposit made on Member Account can be withdrawn. The deposit amount must be turned over 5 times before your withdrawal request will be approved. Wagering requirements can be met by playing on slots, casino games and games. I believe the rule is here to combat suspicious activity I've never had any issues withdrawing my money, and I never turned it over 5 times, not even 2 times Hmm, he must have deposited only 0.002 BTC then, haha.
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August 31, 2017, 01:46:37 AM |
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Hmm, seems it's true https://fortunejack.com/help/termsWagering requirements apply before any deposit made on Member Account can be withdrawn. The deposit amount must be turned over 5 times before your withdrawal request will be approved. Wagering requirements can be met by playing on slots, casino games and games. I believe the rule is here to combat suspicious activity I've never had any issues withdrawing my money, and I never turned it over 5 times, not even 2 times May be you always played with your signature campaign money to play and that's why those rules may not be applicable to you. It is just my thinking but did you anytime tried to deposit money and withdraw without wagering 5X times? Since this has created confusion to many people so fortunejack support team should clarify this part. We no need to do a guessing game.
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August 31, 2017, 01:54:35 AM |
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Hmm, seems it's true https://fortunejack.com/help/termsWagering requirements apply before any deposit made on Member Account can be withdrawn. The deposit amount must be turned over 5 times before your withdrawal request will be approved. Wagering requirements can be met by playing on slots, casino games and games. I believe the rule is here to combat suspicious activity I've never had any issues withdrawing my money, and I never turned it over 5 times, not even 2 times May be you always played with your signature campaign money to play and that's why those rules may not be applicable to you. It is just my thinking but did you anytime tried to deposit money and withdraw without wagering 5X times? Since this has created confusion to many people so fortunejack support team should clarify this part. We no need to do a guessing game. I think it has nothing to do with signature campaign money, I often play with my own deposit but I I dont have to wager x5 to make withdraw. As I have said before, on 29th I made deposit and wager less than x5 then withdraw it without any problems. So it is clear that there is no restrictions for my deposited money.
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August 31, 2017, 06:49:57 AM |
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Now it seems FJ users have to wager x5 to make withdraw but why? I especially liked playing slots on fj but this news did bad for me. When player deposits and you request x5 wager, this means depositer will loose money in most cases. This isn't good idea, fj seems great without that. Just wanted to write my opinion here despite the fact that it won't change anything but hope you will care on it.
Wait.....where did you read wager x5 to withdraw??? it is on fortunejack's TOS,read it carefully now that this outrageous rule is in effect,FJ became a no deposit territory for me it was a great casino to play at,not anymore,not with a wagering requirements for regular deposits
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August 31, 2017, 11:03:51 AM |
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STAY AWAY from this site they now won't let you withdraw before turning your money over 5 TIMES - they are obviously hoping you lose it before you have any chance of withdrawing.
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August 31, 2017, 12:48:18 PM |
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Hmm, he must have deposited only 0.002 BTC then, haha.
Well, I never had any problems withdrawing. Now it seems FJ users have to wager x5 to make withdraw but why? I especially liked playing slots on fj but this news did bad for me. When player deposits and you request x5 wager, this means depositer will loose money in most cases. This isn't good idea, fj seems great without that. Just wanted to write my opinion here despite the fact that it won't change anything but hope you will care on it.
Wait.....where did you read wager x5 to withdraw??? it is on fortunejack's TOS,read it carefully now that this outrageous rule is in effect,FJ became a no deposit territory for me it was a great casino to play at,not anymore,not with a wagering requirements for regular deposits It's true that this rule is here, but I haven't seen anyone yet that wasn't able to withdraw his deposit It's not an applied rule FJ is generally safe to use Still though, they should add for suspicious activity to that.. Because it looks weird af the way it is
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August 31, 2017, 01:37:10 PM |
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STAY AWAY from this site they now won't let you withdraw before turning your money over 5 TIMES - they are obviously hoping you lose it before you have any chance of withdrawing.
Did you make a deposit but unable to withdraw because of it recently? Or you just read above discussion? I'm not trying to defend the site but it is based on my own experience playing in this site. I have never faced any problems in withdrawal, there is also no one reporting issue on withdrawals because of this term so far. It is still need to be confirmed by Fortunejack, whether the term is applied to all deposits or it is just for some special cases.
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August 31, 2017, 01:40:59 PM |
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STAY AWAY from this site they now won't let you withdraw before turning your money over 5 TIMES - they are obviously hoping you lose it before you have any chance of withdrawing.
Did you make a deposit but unable to withdraw because of it recently? Or you just read above discussion? I'm not trying to defend the site but it is based on my own experience playing in this site. I have never faced any problems in withdrawal, there is also no one reporting issue on withdrawals because of this term so far. It is still need to be confirmed by Fortunejack, whether the term is applied to all deposits or it is just for some special cases. Well, they clearly aren't practicing the rule on all deposits, but it's there for some reason.
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August 31, 2017, 05:19:03 PM |
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Well, they clearly aren't practicing the rule on all deposits, but it's there for some reason.
I think it is to restrict users from using casino as their bitcoin wallet so that they can send bitcoin without any fee. Right now fee is as high as 5$ per normal transaction and if every users will just start to use them as bitcoin wallet with free transaction than it will not take much time for FJ to get bankrupt.
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August 31, 2017, 05:39:05 PM |
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Has anyone actually calculated how much is it? Do you know why no one knows about this rule? Because 99.99% gamblers wager their money at least 5 times before they win and cash out without noticing. it is on fortunejack's TOS,read it carefully now that this outrageous rule is in effect,FJ became a no deposit territory for me it was a great casino to play at,not anymore,not with a wagering requirements for regular deposits
http://prntscr.com/gfhccr How big was your deposit for 22BTC wager? You don't have to answer it is rhetorical question
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August 31, 2017, 05:43:25 PM |
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Hmm, he must have deposited only 0.002 BTC then, haha.
Well, I never had any problems withdrawing. Now it seems FJ users have to wager x5 to make withdraw but why? I especially liked playing slots on fj but this news did bad for me. When player deposits and you request x5 wager, this means depositer will loose money in most cases. This isn't good idea, fj seems great without that. Just wanted to write my opinion here despite the fact that it won't change anything but hope you will care on it.
Wait.....where did you read wager x5 to withdraw??? it is on fortunejack's TOS,read it carefully now that this outrageous rule is in effect,FJ became a no deposit territory for me it was a great casino to play at,not anymore,not with a wagering requirements for regular deposits It's true that this rule is here, but I haven't seen anyone yet that wasn't able to withdraw his deposit It's not an applied rule FJ is generally safe to use Still though, they should add for suspicious activity to that.. Because it looks weird af the way it is I would say that people should really stop nagging about the bonuses. All casinos have this kinds of bonus. This isn't free money you can just deposit then withdraw! If that was the case then everybody would just have deposited then withdrew all the money plus the bonus. There is always the options to opt-out of it anyway. The casinos are just giving their players more money to play with but of course there is always a catch.
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August 31, 2017, 06:05:51 PM |
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I would say that people should really stop nagging about the bonuses. All casinos have this kinds of bonus. This isn't free money you can just deposit then withdraw! If that was the case then everybody would just have deposited then withdrew all the money plus the bonus. There is always the options to opt-out of it anyway. The casinos are just giving their players more money to play with but of course there is always a catch.
This has nothing to do with any kind of bonuses. I'm not sure if that's really true or not because I rarely deposit to play casino games on fj but that quote was from the t&c for withdrawals and not from the bonus so you can't back out once you deposited . Quoting the full part so it won't be confusing. They should at least lower the turnover amount to x1. Withdrawals
-Withdrawals shall be made to your wallet address, as described on the Withdrawals page of our Website. Normally, FortuneJack will pay all withdrawal fees for you; however, we do still reserve the right to charge you assigned fees for processing the withdrawal.
-In the event your Member Account erroneously is credited with winnings that do not belong to you, for any reason, the amount credited shall remain our property and will be deducted from your Member Account. You must immediately notify us via email in the event you become aware of an incorrect crediting of your account. You shall not withdraw money that have been erroneously deposited to your account, and if you do so, that amount will constitute a debt owed to us by you.
-FortuneJack will report any suspicious transaction to the relevant Curacao authorities in order to prevent money laundering. Members shall report all suspicious activities related to Games or Services he or she may observe to FortuneJack. In accordance with the Prevention of Money Laundering Act, the Company may suspend a Member Account and withhold funds.
-Wagering requirements apply before any deposit made on Member Account can be withdrawn. The deposit amount must be turned over 5 times before your withdrawal request will be approved. Wagering requirements can be met by playing on slots, casino games and games.
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August 31, 2017, 07:11:46 PM |
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I agree, x5 is too high, x1 would be okay.
Because of the transaction fees, perhaps it would be better to add a up to 0.01 btc deposit x5 is needed Over 0.01 btc x1 or something like that
Because if I deposit 1 btc, I definitely won't roll it over 5 times
Anyways, has anyone actually encountered a withdrawal problem because of this?
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August 31, 2017, 11:26:47 PM |
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I agree, x5 is too high, x1 would be okay.
Because of the transaction fees, perhaps it would be better to add a up to 0.01 btc deposit x5 is needed Over 0.01 btc x1 or something like that
Because if I deposit 1 btc, I definitely won't roll it over 5 times
Anyways, has anyone actually encountered a withdrawal problem because of this?
Only 1 person, everyone else says it never happened.
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