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September 16, 2014, 11:44:05 PM
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im christian and i dont. Smiley
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September 17, 2014, 12:40:23 AM
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Some serious over generalizations and stereotyping going on this thread. Racist people running rampant.

Those muslims do that often, pretending otherwise. It's pretty damn transparent.
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September 17, 2014, 12:53:43 AM
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I don't hate Muslims. I hate Islam because it is destroying the ignorant people who become Muslims.

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September 17, 2014, 12:58:44 AM
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I never hate any religion because all need respect and I try my best to do this

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September 17, 2014, 02:14:04 AM
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Also here is something that most people mistake about islam is that "Islam hates other religions" for this I say, Islam does not hate ANY religion

My religion is drawing cartoons of Religious figures having dirty nasty sex with pankakes, a buffalo and Paris Hilton. When I do so for Allah how many Muslims will call for my death? When I do so for <insert non-islam religion's important figures here> how many <insert non-islam religion's general name> will call for my death?

The answer for the second is "almost nobody"; for the first is "a lot".

IRL I don't draw cartoons of Religious figures having sex. In fact I don't draw at all. But I love the freedom to do so about any topic that I should choose. That's freedom. If some people can't respect my freedom then f'ck them.
I think this is the problem with Islam. The religion says that it is okay to use violence against people who do not share their faith and people who leave their religion.

Granted many wars have been fought over religion however the teaching of the other religions at least preach non-violence.

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September 17, 2014, 02:47:14 AM
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Granted many wars have been fought over religion however the teaching of the other religions at least preach non-violence.

You said it well. I agree.
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September 17, 2014, 04:01:48 AM
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Also here is something that most people mistake about islam is that "Islam hates other religions" for this I say, Islam does not hate ANY religion

My religion is drawing cartoons of Religious figures having dirty nasty sex with pankakes, a buffalo and Paris Hilton. When I do so for Allah how many Muslims will call for my death? When I do so for <insert non-islam religion's important figures here> how many <insert non-islam religion's general name> will call for my death?

The answer for the second is "almost nobody"; for the first is "a lot".

IRL I don't draw cartoons of Religious figures having sex. In fact I don't draw at all. But I love the freedom to do so about any topic that I should choose. That's freedom. If some people can't respect my freedom then f'ck them.
I think this is the problem with Islam. The religion says that it is okay to use violence against people who do not share their faith and people who leave their religion.

Granted many wars have been fought over religion however the teaching of the other religions at least preach non-violence.

That's not what Islam says. What kind of religion would condone violence?

If you follow that kind of logic, what would you consider the Crusades?
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September 17, 2014, 09:48:56 AM
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Also here is something that most people mistake about islam is that "Islam hates other religions" for this I say, Islam does not hate ANY religion

My religion is drawing cartoons of Religious figures having dirty nasty sex with pankakes, a buffalo and Paris Hilton. When I do so for Allah how many Muslims will call for my death? When I do so for <insert non-islam religion's important figures here> how many <insert non-islam religion's general name> will call for my death?

The answer for the second is "almost nobody"; for the first is "a lot".

IRL I don't draw cartoons of Religious figures having sex. In fact I don't draw at all. But I love the freedom to do so about any topic that I should choose. That's freedom. If some people can't respect my freedom then f'ck them.
I think this is the problem with Islam. The religion says that it is okay to use violence against people who do not share their faith and people who leave their religion.

Granted many wars have been fought over religion however the teaching of the other religions at least preach non-violence.

That's not what Islam says. What kind of religion would condone violence?

If you follow that kind of logic, what would you consider the Crusades?

Christianity teaches that one faces enemies and adversity with the mind set that they will triumph regardless of pain. No where does it say that it's a christian's obligation to be defenseless or unwilling to do what's necessary to defend who you are, not to mention your family and country.

Crusades were a defensive reaction to the muslim attacks against byzantine empire and christians in the middle east - muslims swept through and killed zoroastrians, christians, and jews unless they converted to 2nd class slave citizens at best.

Jews and christians and other people were there for hundreds of years before muslims even existed.
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September 17, 2014, 11:51:05 AM
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That's not what Islam says. What kind of religion would condone violence?

If you follow that kind of logic, what would you consider the Crusades?

Did you ever read the Islamic books? So go read them before you say something like that.

Where in the Bible do you find the Crusades?! You are mistaken practice and doctrine. Christian practice may be violent, even if its doctrine ain't. Islam however is both, violent in doctrine and practice.

And to the note, many other religions condone and endorse violence. Islam is only the most reckless on doing it.

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September 17, 2014, 01:18:35 PM
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because america funds criminals like saddam hussein, gaddafi, etc and put them in positions of power, just to have a reason to invade the country later.

those criminals are also claiming to be muslim and commit a lot of atrocities, so called in the name of islam, or are blamed for things the CIA does in covert operations.

because of selective media and propaganda many misinformed people, mostly the gullible and naive people will believe that islam is bad.

exactly what america wants people to believe.

eventually maybe people will hate islam and religion in general so much that they can finally get rid of the basic human right of freedom of religion. Trust me, once they get enough support for it, they will remove that right. And that will be the start of the tribulation.

also, people are scared of what they do not know.

Never the fault of the ones doing the crime. Always it's the supposed 'backers'.

Who the fuck are you to even talk about these things as if you were in the decision making circle? Maybe US works just the same as cubans did in angola, the chinese in cambodia, or indians in bangladesh and russians in chechnya and georgia: Working to ensure no one takes advantage of their interests on geopolitical stage.

No one ever mentions that vast majority of US allies found prosperity and stability within the last 80 years compared to all the other nations who literally fuck each other for crumbs.

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September 17, 2014, 03:23:20 PM
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Did you ever read the Islamic books? So go read them before you say something like that.

Where in the Bible do you find the Crusades?! You are mistaken practice and doctrine. Christian practice may be violent, even if its doctrine ain't. Islam however is both, violent in doctrine and practice.

Have you ever read the bible? Especially the old testament? xD

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September 17, 2014, 03:45:41 PM
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I have a mentality to think whatever I want , right ? I don't hate any type or religions the only thing  that I hate  is only the ignorant people  Wink .
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September 17, 2014, 04:22:58 PM
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It is quite an overstatement to say the people hate Islam. It is the second fastest growing religion and I think it's true that more people believe in Islam now than ever before.  It's also incorrect to say it is violent, or peaceful. It is a superstitious idea that comes from a human mind and can be interpreted in many ways. Just as with Christianity and other religions people latch on to what they want to believe. If they are full of hate then they will find passages that back their beliefs. If the person is a pacifist they will point out the peaceful statements.

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September 17, 2014, 04:51:03 PM
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Also here is something that most people mistake about islam is that "Islam hates other religions" for this I say, Islam does not hate ANY religion

My religion is drawing cartoons of Religious figures having dirty nasty sex with pankakes, a buffalo and Paris Hilton. When I do so for Allah how many Muslims will call for my death? When I do so for <insert non-islam religion's important figures here> how many <insert non-islam religion's general name> will call for my death?

The answer for the second is "almost nobody"; for the first is "a lot".

IRL I don't draw cartoons of Religious figures having sex. In fact I don't draw at all. But I love the freedom to do so about any topic that I should choose. That's freedom. If some people can't respect my freedom then f'ck them.

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Not really accurate here. We're talking about things that actually happen. This wasn't me moving the goal posts. Musilms, even Muslims in Western Countries, believe that I should be killed for making fun of their religious figures. That ideal that I have to try to appease a particular group, or limit my freedom for a particular group or they will attempt to kill me is not an ideal that I take kindly too.
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September 17, 2014, 05:01:30 PM
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That's not what Islam says. What kind of religion would condone violence?

If you follow that kind of logic, what would you consider the Crusades?

Did you ever read the Islamic books? So go read them before you say something like that.

Where in the Bible do you find the Crusades?! You are mistaken practice and doctrine. Christian practice may be violent, even if its doctrine ain't. Islam however is both, violent in doctrine and practice.

And to the note, many other religions condone and endorse violence. Islam is only the most reckless on doing it.

Islamic books as in plural? There is one. The Qur'an and yes I've read many passages.

Why would the bible have a passage about the Crusades? That doesn't make any sense.

Can you give examples of these passages that condone violence?
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September 17, 2014, 05:02:20 PM
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Also here is something that most people mistake about islam is that "Islam hates other religions" for this I say, Islam does not hate ANY religion

My religion is drawing cartoons of Religious figures having dirty nasty sex with pankakes, a buffalo and Paris Hilton. When I do so for Allah how many Muslims will call for my death? When I do so for <insert non-islam religion's important figures here> how many <insert non-islam religion's general name> will call for my death?

The answer for the second is "almost nobody"; for the first is "a lot".

IRL I don't draw cartoons of Religious figures having sex. In fact I don't draw at all. But I love the freedom to do so about any topic that I should choose. That's freedom. If some people can't respect my freedom then f'ck them.

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Not really accurate here. We're talking about things that actually happen. This wasn't me moving the goal posts. Musilms, even Muslims in Western Countries, believe that I should be killed for making fun of their religious figures. That ideal that I have to try to appease a particular group, or limit my freedom for a particular group or they will attempt to kill me is not an ideal that I take kindly too.

LOL WHAT???

If you said that to any person in the US, they would laugh you back to your mom's basement.
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LOL WHAT???

If you said that to any person in the US, they would laugh you back to your mom's basement.

The quoted incident was from Denmark. Definitely a Western Country.
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September 17, 2014, 05:25:29 PM
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That's not what Islam says. What kind of religion would condone violence?

If you follow that kind of logic, what would you consider the Crusades?

Did you ever read the Islamic books? So go read them before you say something like that.

Where in the Bible do you find the Crusades?! You are mistaken practice and doctrine. Christian practice may be violent, even if its doctrine ain't. Islam however is both, violent in doctrine and practice.

And to the note, many other religions condone and endorse violence. Islam is only the most reckless on doing it.

Islamic books as in plural? There is one. The Qur'an and yes I've read many passages.

Why would the bible have a passage about the Crusades? That doesn't make any sense.

Can you give examples of these passages that condone violence?

Crusades:

    Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods.  In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully.  If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock.  Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it.  Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God.  That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt.  Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction.  Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you.  He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors.  "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him."  (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

Other verses that not only condone, but encourage violent behavior

    Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death.  Such evil must be purged from Israel.  (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

    You should not let a sorceress live.  (Exodus 22:17 NAB)

    "If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives."  (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

    A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death.  (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)

    Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death.  (Exodus 21:15 NAB)

     All who curse their father or mother must be put to death.  They are guilty of a capital offense.  (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)

    If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death.  (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

    A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death.  (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

    They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.  (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

    If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord."  When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through.  (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)

But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house.  Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst.  (Deuteronomy  22:20-21 NAB)

If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him.  Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you.  You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery.  And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst.  (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)

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... Musilms, even Muslims in Western Countries, believe that I should be killed for making fun of their religious figures. ...

LOL WHAT???

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If you said that to any person in the US, they would laugh you back to your mom's basement.

The quoted incident was from Denmark. Definitely a Western Country.


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September 17, 2014, 06:36:48 PM
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The Hadeeth are also Islamic books, not only the Quran. They set the example of the prophet. But you can find calls to violence at all of them.
About the Old Testament, no doubt, it's full of violence. But you have the New prevailing over that. And still the OT is common to Islam, Judaism and Christianity. None obviously talks about the Crusades, but Islam already talks about the Mujahedeen. It's the only one of the religions of the God of the desert with a set of holy warrioirs built-in.

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