Unjust scammer tag

[Matthew N. Wright]

Nah, he doesn't get free electricity, the electricity company gives him the electricity, and then later sends him the bill. He then uses bula-logic, because they "sent" him the electricity he doesn't have to pay the bill, they shouldn't have give him the electricity in the first place as it was their own fault. This is how his brain interprets the situation.

Win.

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[bulanula]

Nah, he doesn't get free electricity, the electricity company gives him the electricity, and then later sends him the bill. He then uses bula-logic, because they "sent" him the electricity he doesn't have to pay the bill, they shouldn't have give him the electricity in the first place as it was their own fault. This is how his brain interprets the situation.

Win.

Where is your explanation about you missing for the past 2 days during the hack

Busy writing an article about it for the next magazine or hacking it yourself and getting loaded ?

Hmmm.

No comment can mean confirmation.

[bitlane]

No comment can mean confirmation.

Is that similar to "No refund can mean Scam" ?

[bulanula]

No comment can mean confirmation.

Is that similar to "No refund can mean Scam" ?

Good luck to you later in life if you still think this is a scam !

God bless ya !

[Retard]

Sad I am at the top of the pyramid and you are nearer to the bottom

You are also running a pyramid scam as well ? NICE.


Oh...and I almost forgot...

Did you get a chance to repay that 22.5 BTC over-payment back to it's rightful owner yet ?

If not, would you mind getting on that. Tick-tock Tick-tock.....

An 'early adopter' could easily cover that amount (times 10 if needed) with virtually ZERO personal loss at this point.
...that is, unless you are NOT an 'early adopter' as you claim to be ? ....could you be telling an untruth ?

It seems it has been lost in the troll smoke.

I am waiting to confirm who actually wants to take my BTC for ransom for the scammer tag.

Raize or smart1985.

Its correct Raize <--

[bulanula]

Sad I am at the top of the pyramid and you are nearer to the bottom

You are also running a pyramid scam as well ? NICE.


Oh...and I almost forgot...

Did you get a chance to repay that 22.5 BTC over-payment back to it's rightful owner yet ?

If not, would you mind getting on that. Tick-tock Tick-tock.....

An 'early adopter' could easily cover that amount (times 10 if needed) with virtually ZERO personal loss at this point.
...that is, unless you are NOT an 'early adopter' as you claim to be ? ....could you be telling an untruth ?

It seems it has been lost in the troll smoke.

I am waiting to confirm who actually wants to take my BTC for ransom for the scammer tag.

Raize or smart1985.

Its correct Raize <--

How much did he pay ?

[vmarchuk]

This one of most pathetic thread I have read on forums. bulanula have problems in head I think. Very sad.

[bulanula]

This one of most pathetic thread I have read on forums. bulanula have problems in head I think. Very sad.

Do you have a good head doctor you can recommend

[Blazr]

Do you have a good head doctor you can recommend

Yeah, its called a guillotine, they used to fix scammers like you.

[bulanula]

Do you have a good head doctor you can recommend

Yeah, its called a guillotine, they used to fix scammers like you.

Where can I find one ?

[lightlord]

hmm
I got 2 x Gigabyte 7970
one hashes at 712Mhash at 74deg
the other hashes at 680Mhash at 84deg (idles at 74 :/)
guess i should void my warrantee and check out whats under heatsink too

cheers for the heads up

How do they check you opened the card up and voided the warranty in the first place

What happened? I have done many many trades in the past with bulanula and have never gotten scammed.

I can confirm that the "lightlord" user is legit. Sold him 100 SLC and all went through just fine. Thanks !

There must be a miss understanding here? Or I didn't get the latest news?


I even have him on my signature list below  
I mean we did a lot of trades, and there are others that do trust him.

[bulanula]

hmm
I got 2 x Gigabyte 7970
one hashes at 712Mhash at 74deg
the other hashes at 680Mhash at 84deg (idles at 74 :/)
guess i should void my warrantee and check out whats under heatsink too

cheers for the heads up

How do they check you opened the card up and voided the warranty in the first place

What happened? I have done many many trades in the past with bulanula and have never gotten scammed.

I can confirm that the "lightlord" user is legit. Sold him 100 SLC and all went through just fine. Thanks !

There must be a miss understanding here? Or I didn't get the latest news?


I even have him on my signature list below  
I mean we did a lot of trades, and there are others that do trust him.

See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=483.msg841913#msg841913 and beginning of this thread.

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Bulanula's Bitcoin transactions on this forum and in the community :

-check my bitcoin-otc reputation : http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=bulanula

-sold 100 SLC to lightlord ( he paid first ) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=30541

-sold 7 BTC code for some software to mrx ( he paid first ) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=21410 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=52385

-got 10 BTC from ptshamrock ( he allowed me to access his 10 rigs through ssh to try and get them setup last year )

-sold a motherboard to Chefnet for 62.5 BTC and sonba was escrow ( see bitcoin-otc )

-did some testing for a SMS portal for Herodes worth 30 BTC of TXs ( see bitcoin-otc )

-long time user registered for 1 year this May 11

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Just because I refuse to give refund ( theymos removed the ad in my signature for smart1985 ) I am called a scammer because the other guy is a forum donator. Very nice !

[Blazr]

tl;dr bulanula sold advertising space for 2.5BTC. Guy sent 25BTC by accident. Bulanula refused to refund back 22.5BTC because it was the guy's fault for sending the extra money.

In all honesty, its not scamming, but its still very dishonest and sneaky and I think a scammer tag is appropriate to warn anybody who may want to trade with him.

[bulanula]

tl;dr bulanula sold advertising space for 2.5BTC. Guy sent 25BTC by accident. Bulanula refused to refund back 22.5BTC because it was the guy's fault for sending the extra money.

In all honesty, its not scamming, but its still very dishonest and sneaky and I think a scammer tag is appropriate to warn anybody who may want to trade with him.

There is your problem there ( read the whole scenario ) :

-I would have given a refund but the guy attacked me first before I even had chance to give BTC back

-since he attacked best thing I could offer for him was 10 months ( what he paid ) + 2 months bonus but NO REFUND because I was attacked

-guy does not want 10 months service but he wants me scammer tagged and theymos removed sig ad ( the ad was there for the whole period ) and coins still in address ( not moved )

[lightlord]

Total BS. Attempt to discredit and insult my professionalism by a couple of trolls on BTC-E chat.

We had a informal deal for 2.5 BTC for my signature space for 1 month.

He claims he sent me by "accident" 25 BTC instead. No way to verify this claim. For all I know this could be from my aunt for Easter etc.

No overpayment at all.

Since the deal was 2.5 BTC for a month and he SUPPOSEDLY sent me 25 BTC ( could not verify it was really him / anyone can use PhotoShop ) I decided to do the right thing and give him 10 months ( as paid ) and also a bonus 2 months for a total of a year renting out my signature space.

I also wasted 2 hours talking to him about a solution in BTC-E chat ( without compensation from him at all ).

He made a mistake and he wants me to pay for it

BTC payment is irreversible. That is the whole point otherwise I would be using USD. There are no "mistakes" and "accidents" in BTC; just like in life if you screw up you face up to the fact and move on. Mistakes costs. And now I have to pay for it

I offered him all I could but I will not refund because it defeats the point of BTC. I never forced him to give me 25 BTC at all. I never held a gun to his head. All I asked is 2.5 BTC for my signature ad space for a month. He sends me 1 million BTC by "mistake" then who is the one to blame ?

Suddenly I see 25 BTC coming and he says I am scammer. If I was scammer I would have taken the BTC ( they are still here and not moved by me http://blockchain.info/address/1Bu1424Lf7y3Jz9p4ZyCo2mRSQDwdaXrHa ) and gone off this forum and also not spent 2 hours trying to get some cooperation from him in BTC-E chatroom and work out a solution. I would not scam for 22 BTC

You can see the signature is present below in red so I kept my end of the deal.

Don't understand what all the fuss is about really ...

We agreed informally 2.5 BTC for 1 month. I see 25 BTC coming in. He claims it was his mistake. I do my best offer of 10 months ( paid ) + 2 months ( bonus ) for a total of 1 year and also 2 hours BTC-E support talking to him about solution.

TBH all I agreed to was 1 month of space in my signature on this forum for 2.5 BTC. He sends me 25 BTC "by mistake" it is his problem not mine. I could do just one month and that is that but I am trying to be fair and work out a solution. He comes in public BTC-E chat calls me a scammer after I spent 2 hours trying to see a solution.

I think there is a miss understanding going on here. Read carefully, He didn't see the 25 BTC coming in his wallet for a long time,
Was called a scammer, theif before he saw the 25 BTC transaction. I once had a transaction take this long as well, it happens.

He tried for hours to resolve the problem, but the 25 BTC suddenly appeared after hours of being called a theif,
the person with the 25 BTC sent, should of waited a day at least.

I waited about a couple of days when I got scammed from a different person once for 15 BTC, tubstill.
I didn't rushed out and called him a scammer, I waited.

I gave him a chance, perhaps something happened, or something.
Then after 2-3 days I reported him and got his account removed on BTC-E.
But that was 3 days after he started to ignore me.

I would every 6 hours update, anything happened? But got no response.

Bulanula wasn't given this chance. He was sent 25 BTC by mistake, He didn't see it coming for hours, called scammer thief immediately.
Even after trying for 2 hours to look for a solution which most scammers would never do this, my past experience
suggests scammer never take the time to resolve this.


I honestly do feel sorry for this, as I have done many many trades, and a lot of others. He hasn't scammed once.
I think there was even a time when I made a mistake and sent too much. And I gave him time,
he sent it back after he got it after 5 hours. I did not rushed out and bad mouth him immideately.
I can almost understand why he didn't send it back, as of this.

Now wait for a person to say lightlord and bulanula is the same 

[lightlord]

-I would have given a refund but the guy attacked me first before I even had chance to give BTC back

-since he attacked best thing I could offer for him was 10 months ( what he paid ) + 2 months bonus but NO REFUND because I was attacked

-guy does not want 10 months service but he wants me scammer tagged and theymos removed sig ad ( the ad was there for the whole period ) and coins still in address ( not moved )

Exactly, its exactly what I said above.

I have done some research all it takes is two people to put you down and the rest jumps in and follows.
Sometimes its without even thinking about it, just following the public.

Really you weren't looked in the right way. Well I tried my best, hopefully the above made it more clearer

[Gladamas]

He claims he sent me by "accident" 25 BTC instead. No way to verify this claim. For all I know this could be from my aunt for Easter etc.

Smart1985 signed a message with his private key proving that it was him that sent the Bitcoins to Bulanula.

Bulanula wasn't given this chance. He was sent 25 BTC by mistake, He didn't see it coming for hours, called scammer thief immediately.
Even after trying for 2 hours to look for a solution which most scammers would never do this, my past experience
suggests scammer never take the time to resolve this.

I honestly do feel sorry for this, as I have done many many trades, and a lot of others. He hasn't scammed once.
I think there was even a time when I made a mistake and sent too much. And I gave him time,
he sent it back after he got it after 5 hours. I did not rushed out and bad mouth him immideately.
I can almost understand why he didn't send it back, as of this.

Do you honestly think that if there was a misunderstanding, that gives you the right to be a dick?

-I would have given a refund but the guy attacked me first before I even had chance to give BTC back

-since he attacked best thing I could offer for him was 10 months ( what he paid ) + 2 months bonus but NO REFUND because I was attacked

-guy does not want 10 months service but he wants me scammer tagged and theymos removed sig ad ( the ad was there for the whole period ) and coins still in address ( not moved )

Exactly, its exactly what I said above.

I have done some research all it takes is two people to put you down and the rest jumps in and follows.
Sometimes its without even thinking about it, just following the public.

Really you weren't looked in the right way. Well I tried my best, hopefully the above made it more clearer

Can someone please compare the IP's of lightlord and Bulanula? If not the same person there might be a COI here.

[Matthew N. Wright]

Total BS. Attempt to discredit and insult my professionalism by a couple of trolls on BTC-E chat.

We had a informal deal for 2.5 BTC for my signature space for 1 month.

He claims he sent me by "accident" 25 BTC instead. No way to verify this claim. For all I know this could be from my aunt for Easter etc.

No overpayment at all.

Since the deal was 2.5 BTC for a month and he SUPPOSEDLY sent me 25 BTC ( could not verify it was really him / anyone can use PhotoShop ) I decided to do the right thing and give him 10 months ( as paid ) and also a bonus 2 months for a total of a year renting out my signature space.

I also wasted 2 hours talking to him about a solution in BTC-E chat ( without compensation from him at all ).

He made a mistake and he wants me to pay for it

BTC payment is irreversible. That is the whole point otherwise I would be using USD. There are no "mistakes" and "accidents" in BTC; just like in life if you screw up you face up to the fact and move on. Mistakes costs. And now I have to pay for it

I offered him all I could but I will not refund because it defeats the point of BTC. I never forced him to give me 25 BTC at all. I never held a gun to his head. All I asked is 2.5 BTC for my signature ad space for a month. He sends me 1 million BTC by "mistake" then who is the one to blame ?

Suddenly I see 25 BTC coming and he says I am scammer. If I was scammer I would have taken the BTC ( they are still here and not moved by me http://blockchain.info/address/1Bu1424Lf7y3Jz9p4ZyCo2mRSQDwdaXrHa ) and gone off this forum and also not spent 2 hours trying to get some cooperation from him in BTC-E chatroom and work out a solution. I would not scam for 22 BTC

You can see the signature is present below in red so I kept my end of the deal.

Don't understand what all the fuss is about really ...

We agreed informally 2.5 BTC for 1 month. I see 25 BTC coming in. He claims it was his mistake. I do my best offer of 10 months ( paid ) + 2 months ( bonus ) for a total of 1 year and also 2 hours BTC-E support talking to him about solution.

TBH all I agreed to was 1 month of space in my signature on this forum for 2.5 BTC. He sends me 25 BTC "by mistake" it is his problem not mine. I could do just one month and that is that but I am trying to be fair and work out a solution. He comes in public BTC-E chat calls me a scammer after I spent 2 hours trying to see a solution.

I think there is a miss understanding going on here. Read carefully, He didn't see the 25 BTC coming in his wallet for a long time,
Was called a scammer, theif before he saw the 25 BTC transaction. I once had a transaction take this long as well, it happens.

He tried for hours to resolve the problem, but the 25 BTC suddenly appeared after hours of being called a theif,
the person with the 25 BTC sent, should of waited a day at least.

I waited about a couple of days when I got scammed from a different person once for 15 BTC, tubstill.
I didn't rushed out and called him a scammer, I waited.

I gave him a chance, perhaps something happened, or something.
Then after 2-3 days I reported him and got his account removed on BTC-E.
But that was 3 days after he started to ignore me.

I would every 6 hours update, anything happened? But got no response.

Bulanula wasn't given this chance. He was sent 25 BTC by mistake, He didn't see it coming for hours, called scammer thief immediately.
Even after trying for 2 hours to look for a solution which most scammers would never do this, my past experience
suggests scammer never take the time to resolve this.


I honestly do feel sorry for this, as I have done many many trades, and a lot of others. He hasn't scammed once.
I think there was even a time when I made a mistake and sent too much. And I gave him time,
he sent it back after he got it after 5 hours. I did not rushed out and bad mouth him immideately.
I can almost understand why he didn't send it back, as of this.

Did Bulanula just post as lightlord?

[lightlord]

He claims he sent me by "accident" 25 BTC instead. No way to verify this claim. For all I know this could be from my aunt for Easter etc.

Smart1985 signed a message with his private key proving that it was him that sent the Bitcoins to Bulanula.

Bulanula wasn't given this chance. He was sent 25 BTC by mistake, He didn't see it coming for hours, called scammer thief immediately.
Even after trying for 2 hours to look for a solution which most scammers would never do this, my past experience
suggests scammer never take the time to resolve this.

I honestly do feel sorry for this, as I have done many many trades, and a lot of others. He hasn't scammed once.
I think there was even a time when I made a mistake and sent too much. And I gave him time,
he sent it back after he got it after 5 hours. I did not rushed out and bad mouth him immideately.
I can almost understand why he didn't send it back, as of this.

Do you honestly think that if there was a misunderstanding, that gives you the right to be a dick?

-I would have given a refund but the guy attacked me first before I even had chance to give BTC back

-since he attacked best thing I could offer for him was 10 months ( what he paid ) + 2 months bonus but NO REFUND because I was attacked

-guy does not want 10 months service but he wants me scammer tagged and theymos removed sig ad ( the ad was there for the whole period ) and coins still in address ( not moved )

Exactly, its exactly what I said above.

I have done some research all it takes is two people to put you down and the rest jumps in and follows.
Sometimes its without even thinking about it, just following the public.

Really you weren't looked in the right way. Well I tried my best, hopefully the above made it more clearer

Can someone please compare the IP's of lightlord and Bulanula? If not the same person there might be a COI here.

Do I need to take pictures of myself? And  bulanula?
We aren't the same person

Further more we properly live 1000s of miles apart.

[Blazr]

The second Bulanula realised that he had gotten the extra BTC + the buyer confirmed the money belonged to him (why not sign a message, no need for Photoshop?) he should have sent the money straight away (or as soon as he possibly could) even if he had already been called a scammer.

Terrytibbs was labeled a scammer for a long ass time, yet he refunded as soon as he could and his scammer tag was removed. I would now trade with terrytibbs no problem as he done the right thing.

Bulanula still hasn't done the right thing, and he's made it 10x worse with this ridiculous troll-fest of a thread. If he had refunded as soon as he could, I would've still traded with him, as this sort of stuff happens (I assume most people would have still traded as well).