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September 16, 2014, 06:34:41 AM Last edit: September 17, 2014, 08:43:49 AM by MemoryDealers |
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BitcoinBountyHunter.com is now live. Now anyone can contribute bitcoins to motivate people with information on criminals to provide that information to law enforcement, or motivate law enforcement officers to take action directly. I've personally contributed over 40 BTC for the bounties to help get things started. With this financial motivation I hope we can help catch the dishonest among us, and motivate those working in law enforcement to actually take action. I'm sure there is lots of room for improvement to the site's aesthetic and technical implementation. Please post your suggestions for improvements to the site below. Together we are making a better world!
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interesting project but also a controversial one. what happens, if i post a "crime" which isnt a crime in your country? who decides which "crime" is worth a bounty and which is not? i also could fake informations or make wrongful allegations.
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interesting project but also a controversial one. what happens, if i post a "crime" which isnt a crime in your country? who decides which "crime" is worth a bounty and which is not? i also could fake informations or make wrongful allegations.
Until a distributed system is developed, I will be moderating what bounties are allowed and what are not. I will only be allowing bounties for crimes in which there is a clear victim.
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September 17, 2014, 10:34:46 AM |
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Is it even legal to have stated intent to financially "motivate law enforcement?"
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September 17, 2014, 12:58:57 PM |
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Great step forward Roger. I admire your courage and your inclination to action whenever you feel you have a solution for an important need. Besides, I'm like-minded philosophically.
I have one question that you might have contemplated:
While this privately incentivizes crime resolution, aren't they still going to be dealt with on a statist law enforcement system (which is the whole problem to begin with)? In other words, wouldn't we be funding government thugs to do their dis-service?
I know it's a huge topic to discuss, but I'm wondering if you've given this a thought. (And I understand that the state has the monopoly on law enforcement, so there's no possibility of directing the idea towards private solutions, at least not that I can think of right now)...
In any case. Thanks for being a man of action.
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September 17, 2014, 01:10:31 PM |
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Nice idea lets the hunting start
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September 17, 2014, 03:02:49 PM |
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interesting project but also a controversial one. what happens, if i post a "crime" which isnt a crime in your country? who decides which "crime" is worth a bounty and which is not? i also could fake informations or make wrongful allegations.
Until a distributed system is developed, I will be moderating what bounties are allowed and what are not. I will only be allowing bounties for crimes in which there is a clear victim. Oh really, and who are you to decide who is a "clear victim"? The world does not need you being some kind of judge and jury. Why are you trying to link this stuff to Bitcoin? Other than using that as a payment system it has nothing to do with Bitcoin. You are doing the same thing as all those news articles that try to link Bitcoin to stuff just because it is being used a payment method. It is not "Internet Bounty Hunter" because it is being done on the Internet, it is "Bitcoin Bounty Hunter" because Bitcoin is being used as a payment method. These kind of stunts gets a few upvotes on reddit but they drive the general population away from Bitcoin and make it weaker. Bitcoin is politically agnostic and it merely gives people more tools to do what they want.
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September 17, 2014, 03:32:46 PM |
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I partially agree with this service, but I'm also concerned about the possible implications
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September 17, 2014, 04:08:22 PM |
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Did you ever recover those Bitcoins from 2011?
Add that to the bounty list?
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September 17, 2014, 04:25:14 PM |
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Excellent.
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September 17, 2014, 04:51:18 PM |
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Excellent idea, I have thought about setting up a similar website for activism and direct action. I suggest you think about splitting the site up geographically to encourage grassroots involvement. Perhaps register a few international domains and forward them to localized areas of the webpage?
I hope this takes off anyway
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September 17, 2014, 05:32:57 PM |
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Great idea. Way to get the ball moving. I think this could be successful in time. Maybe eventually it could incorporate a timeline of updates and details to each bounty, so users could track the potential progress being made. This way it won't look so static, like nothing is happening or being done.
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September 17, 2014, 06:46:59 PM |
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interesting project but also a controversial one. what happens, if i post a "crime" which isnt a crime in your country? who decides which "crime" is worth a bounty and which is not? i also could fake informations or make wrongful allegations.
Until a distributed system is developed, I will be moderating what bounties are allowed and what are not. I will only be allowing bounties for crimes in which there is a clear victim. look like this oculd easyly become a place where innocent ppl get shit on hardcore look in nxt what hapend to wrongly doxed guys. i like u roger but u may be over ur head of this one,unless u moniter the contents urself. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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September 17, 2014, 09:51:10 PM |
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I really like this idea! Going to see if I can add the place I was scammed at to it.
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September 17, 2014, 10:18:39 PM Last edit: September 18, 2014, 03:34:39 AM by BTCLuke |
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Oh really, and who are you to decide who is a "clear victim"? It's not a matter of "who," it's a matter of the victim having a pulse or not. All too often laws are passed to benefit the MPAA or 'the environment' or some other non-human. This is Roger's way of saying that bounties can be made for crimes against humans, not corporations that hired lobbyists to change laws in their favor. The world does not need you being some kind of judge and jury. I couldn't disagree more. The world needs FOR EVERYONE to be some kind of judge and jury, and take that power away from the assholes ruining our 'justice systems' now. Bitcoin is politically agnostic and it merely gives people more tools to do what they want. LOL. No matter how many times you repeat that pathetic wish it isn't going to come true. Facts are facts; bitcoin cannot be removed from its' incentive structure, and that will not allow banks to survive. It simply outcompetes them on every level and gives away all of their services for free. Meanwhile, banks tell the politicians what to do. Saying bitcoin isn't political is like saying a Tank isn't for warfare.
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September 17, 2014, 10:45:04 PM |
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LOL. No matter how many times you repeat that pathetic wish it isn't going to come true.
Bitcoin is a protocol, not a political thing. It may be used by all types of people for all types of reasons, including political but that does not mean it is itself a political things. All these arguments were already played out when the Internet was developed. in 1995 there were groups saying the Internet was meant for research and advertising would not be allowed. One guy used to say it meant freedom and he attached child porn pics to all his newsgroup posting to "prove" the Internet meant freedom. Where are those people now? Who knows? They have faded into oblivion and, what do you know, the Internet is now used by all sorts of factions to do all sorts of things. It did not free people from the State because they now use the Internet to track people. So which is it? A tool for freedom or a tool for the State to track people? The answer is that it is both. There are several people who have latched onto Bitcoin to promote their personal agenda. They try to claim to know what Bitcoin is and try to imply people who use it agree with them. That is what is going on here when people say Bitcoin is inherently political. Some people say it is a tool of freedom fighters while other say it is a tool of the State to track transactions. It will be used by both those factions for their purpose because Bitcoin has no political motive, it has a mind of its own. If you listen to Peter Todd in his interviews on let's Talk Bitcoin he explains it well.
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Bitfloor page?
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Saying that you don't trust someone because of their behavior is completely valid.
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September 17, 2014, 11:35:10 PM |
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Mr. Ver says because I don't like his ideas that I don't understand Bitcoin. He wanted to make some challenge over his claim that Bitcoin will end wars. My idea for a challenge is that we get 200 random people who never heard of Bitcoin. 100 people are shown Bitcoin Bounty Hunter and his video. The other hundred will be shown the http://bitcoin.me video. Afterwards they can be asked if they would plan to use Bitcoin the future. What do you think the results would be?
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