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September 19, 2014, 09:25:56 PM
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I think this guy is unstable.

Please could you try to avoid quoting that troll if possible? He's on everyone's ignore-list. Thanks you.
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September 19, 2014, 09:35:33 PM
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I think this guy is unstable.

Please could you try to avoid quoting that troll if possible? He's on everyone's ignore-list. Thanks you.

he aint on my ignore list cause dem bullshit he writes is hilariously delusional

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September 19, 2014, 09:36:40 PM
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Guys if you seriously even bother discussing the matter with BitcoinEXpress I'm laughing my ass off.

It has been confirmed so many times now that there is *No Exploit* and there has been *No Exploit*, the only matter of fact is that BCX made it all up and is entirely debunked now.

I repeat, for all those that still respected BCX for some reason (totally incomprehensible) have now all the reasons in the world to realize that he's just Mr. Fat Mouth without anything behind his claims whatsoever.

What a fucking fail, BCX. You fail on all levels, the only thing you might have succeeded in is the crash you initiated to buy in Monero as low as possible. Congratulations for being the #1 fail in the crypto world, BCX. Thanks for entertaining us by being an utter asshat.

Time to carry on, Monero doesn't need all of this BCX-wannabe-FUD waste of time...



I think this guy is unstable.

He is clearly taunting and trying to provoke BCX into demonstrating the exploit.
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September 19, 2014, 09:37:26 PM
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Guys if you seriously even bother discussing the matter with BitcoinEXpress I'm laughing my ass off.

It has been confirmed so many times now that there is *No Exploit* and there has been *No Exploit*, the only matter of fact is that BCX made it all up and is entirely debunked now.

I repeat, for all those that still respected BCX for some reason (totally incomprehensible) have now all the reasons in the world to realize that he's just Mr. Fat Mouth without anything behind his claims whatsoever.

What a fucking fail, BCX. You fail on all levels, the only thing you might have succeeded in is the crash you initiated to buy in Monero as low as possible. Congratulations for being the #1 fail in the crypto world, BCX. Thanks for entertaining us by being an utter asshat.

Time to carry on, Monero doesn't need all of this BCX-wannabe-FUD waste of time...



I think this guy is unstable.

He is clearly taunting and trying to provoke BCX into demonstrating the exploit.

Well BCX did offer to show a live chain demonstration to Maxwell.
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September 19, 2014, 09:39:48 PM
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Guys if you seriously even bother discussing the matter with BitcoinEXpress I'm laughing my ass off.

It has been confirmed so many times now that there is *No Exploit* and there has been *No Exploit*, the only matter of fact is that BCX made it all up and is entirely debunked now.

I repeat, for all those that still respected BCX for some reason (totally incomprehensible) have now all the reasons in the world to realize that he's just Mr. Fat Mouth without anything behind his claims whatsoever.

What a fucking fail, BCX. You fail on all levels, the only thing you might have succeeded in is the crash you initiated to buy in Monero as low as possible. Congratulations for being the #1 fail in the crypto world, BCX. Thanks for entertaining us by being an utter asshat.

Time to carry on, Monero doesn't need all of this BCX-wannabe-FUD waste of time...



I think this guy is unstable.

He is clearly taunting and trying to provoke BCX into demonstrating the exploit.

Well BCX did offer to show a live chain demonstration to Maxwell.

that monero man can try provoke the BCX all day long.  bcx aint no man to be played with... it was demonstrated so many times.  if he wants to exploit hes gonna go and exploit independent of moneromans or any other monero shill accs  delusional writings or beliefs. if u believe there is no exploit then go ahead, aint gonna change things

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September 19, 2014, 10:16:59 PM
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If I win, I lose.


~BCX~

what do u have to lose ?

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September 19, 2014, 10:31:20 PM
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Is it just me or is it only bullshitting dooshrags that have to put their nickname initials at the end of each of their posts? Like we can't just look to the left and see who's posting. 

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September 19, 2014, 10:33:29 PM
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Is it just me or is it only bullshitting dooshrags that have to put their nickname initials at the end of each of their posts? Like we can't just look to the left and see who's posting. 

~JwM~

What's worse, he's leaving one out.  It should be

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September 19, 2014, 10:45:07 PM
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Nice!

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September 19, 2014, 10:47:56 PM
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Is it just me or is it only bullshitting dooshrags that have to put their nickname initials at the end of each of their posts? Like we can't just look to the left and see who's posting. 

~JwM~

It's just u. I have 1424 posts signed with my CfA brand. U have 1. BCX has 3400.

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September 19, 2014, 10:54:47 PM
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Is it just me or is it only bullshitting dooshrags that have to put their nickname initials at the end of each of their posts? Like we can't just look to the left and see who's posting.  

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It's just u. I have 1424 posts signed with my CfA brand. U have 1. BCX has 3400.

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September 19, 2014, 11:00:41 PM
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And are stuck in 2013 talking about "revolutionary wallets" in the age if NXT.

I've seen the Nxt wallet. The one under development for Monero is revolutionary.

Re. Vertcoin, it is currently #40 on coinmarketcap. I don't spent my time studying every one of the top 40 coins.

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September 19, 2014, 11:01:56 PM
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I've seen the Nxt wallet. The one under development for Monero is revolutionary.

Could you please elaborate on that? What will be revolutionary?
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September 19, 2014, 11:07:23 PM
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And are stuck in 2013 talking about "revolutionary wallets" in the age if NXT.

I've seen the Nxt wallet. The one under development for Monero is revolutionary.

Re. Vertcoin, it is currently #40 on coinmarketcap. I don't spent my time studying every one of the top 40 coins.


I found a leaked screenshot of the Monero wallet.  Grin

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September 19, 2014, 11:08:17 PM
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It's just u. I have 1424 posts signed with my CfA brand. U have 1. BCX has 3400.

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September 19, 2014, 11:08:54 PM
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And are stuck in 2013 talking about "revolutionary wallets" in the age if NXT.

I've seen the Nxt wallet. The one under development for Monero is revolutionary.

Re. Vertcoin, it is currently #40 on coinmarketcap. I don't spent my time studying every one of the top 40 coins.


I found a leaked screenshot of the Monero wallet.  Grin



In terms of ease of use that would indeed be a vast improvement. But we're not quite able to accomplish that yet.
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September 19, 2014, 11:10:57 PM
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lots of black people


read the signature my dear troll u may need to triple read it to let it get into ur brains

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September 19, 2014, 11:53:11 PM
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But how much do you bench?

Thanks! That comment literally made my week!

PS: 1 rep max 155kg bench

I don´t know in kg but i am able to lift 3 crates of beer from the supermarket to my car.

This thread is reminding me of the tussles with my childhood friends.

Well to you young studs, I am 49 and at least I can still lift my 5kg dick.
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September 20, 2014, 12:06:27 AM
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But how much do you bench?

Thanks! That comment literally made my week!

PS: 1 rep max 155kg bench

I don´t know in kg but i am able to lift 3 crates of beer from the supermarket to my car.

This thread is reminding me of the tussles with my childhood friends.

Well to you young studs, I am 49 and at least I can still lift my 5kg dick.


49 what the hell, I didn't realize old people were in crypto.

I'm 31 so I guess that makes you technically old enough to be my dad.


~BCX~



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He's still a pup !!
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September 20, 2014, 12:07:49 AM
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2) There is no break down in the encryption but in how it is implemented.
This is in direct contradiction to your original claim that it cannot be fixed without giving up on anonymity. I call bullshit.

In the quote he is talking about encryption.  

In your response you are talking about anonymity.  

On the Original post he says, "To fix this, anonymity will need to be sacrificed..."

Isn't anonymity and encryption two different things?  Where is the contradiction?

The anonymity is expressed in the whitepaper - if anonymity has to be sacrificed then it would be because the maths / crypto in the whitepaper is wrong.

I think the answer to your question in bold is no, here the anonymity and encryption are not two different things.

You think...  Not good enough.  Fluffpony basically ignored the questions.  Can we have someone that knows what they are talking about respond please.

I'd hazard that he misspoke when he said encryption, and he meant "cryptography" instead. Otherwise it makes no sense - there's a keyring flaw and we have to sacrifice anonymity, but the breakdown is not in the encryption but in the implementation thereof? Confused.

Careful. Encryption could mean the one-time ring signature is not broken, rather the way it is implemented perhaps referring to having multiple intersecting ring signatures simultaneously. Afaics the whitepaper did not address the math of such an intersection.


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Reading between the lines it sounds like you think that BCX can actually steal wallets remotely. I wont disclose any details to anybody else, but I am curious to know if indeed this is possible. I had assumed that all the wallets are using oneway trapdoor functions that cannot be reversed.

With the cryptonote key images and multiple signers and a lot of hashing power, could it be possible to bruteforce solve a wallet's privatekey?

As I wrote upthread, it might be possible using multiple intersecting rings to use a system of simultaneous equations to find the 'x' private keys that are supposed to be hidden by the non-interactive Zero Knowledge Proof. However, I didn't work through the math to see if my hunch is true.

However by that time, the coins are already spent on the blockchain (unless you can intercept before), so you need the hashrate and or Time Warp Attack to backup the blockchain and double-spend them to yourself.

This wouldn't be the first time I had an insight that gmaxell didn't although he has returned the favor of me a few times too.

I am lazy to do the math because I don't see anyone offering me some considerable amount of money and I doubt I could use the exploit if I found it. If someone puts up a big bounty, I will investigate.

I could be way off course. It is just a hunch.
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