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[DaCryptoRaccoon]

One before 500 days would do just nice. 

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[kano]

Kano,
How come we can no longer see all the Pool Workers on the website?

Because a while ago a certain asshole started a vendetta against Kano when he did not get answers that fit with their view of how things work or more to the point how they want things to work decided to post the entire list of users here. While not directly a security issue it *did* give potential hackers a nice list to try using for attacks.

The odd thing about this is that he's directing his malice at the pool miners.
So I'd think that the hate zone towards him would be very high now.

The effect on the pool itself is minimal since I've had to deal with such bot attacks a number of times even last year,
and my pool code handles them quite well.

Well shit, it is always the one the screws it up for the masses!

Well I did update KDB a few weeks back and it now has an opt in to show your hash rate on that page.
However it assigns you a random string for your username on the page - which you see on the Account->User Settings page if you opt in.

So it no longer lists login usernames there (except for a very few certain 'safe' accounts)

Also added a new 'T' share page that shows all the recent T shares on the pool.

[bbigminer]

Hello KanoPool,

We are MinerBox mining pool monitoring app team, and we have received multiple requests from our users to add kano.io mining pool in our app. We have tried to contact you via your Discord support channel, but unfortunately, we got banned without any apparent reason.

We believe that our cooperation will benefit both parties, as it will allow your miners to monitor their mining progress easily and efficiently through our app. If you are interested in working together, please let us know and we can discuss further details.

Thank you for your time.

Best regards,
MinerBox Team

[kano]

I guess English is not your native language?

The title of the discord channel says "https://kano.is/ Bitcoin only advertising/buy/sell messages will get you banned ..."

[NotFuzzyWarm]

...
We are MinerBox mining pool monitoring app team, and we have received multiple requests from our users to add kano.io mining pool in our app. We have tried to contact you via your Discord support channel, but unfortunately, we got banned without any apparent reason.

We believe that our cooperation will benefit both parties, as it will allow your miners to monitor their mining progress easily and efficiently through our app. If you are interested in working together, please let us know and we can discuss further details.
...

For a user to add their information to your monitoring app all they need to do is supply you with their API key.

That can be found under Account > User Settings. Right at the top of that page is their current user API key. With that a monitoring app can poll the pool for the users current stats.

[kano]

Come join our long running BlockFinders group in the KanoPool#solo discord channel

[CryptoHFs]

why use kano over ck?

can I use nicehash?

[NotFuzzyWarm]

why use kano over ck?
can I use nicehash?

Fee is only 0.5% vs 2%, yes NH works fine

[CryptoHFs]

why use kano over ck?
can I use nicehash?

Fee is only 0.5% vs 2%, yes NH works fine

the risk is that kano takes the money then I have to ask to withdraw it right? not mining to my address directly like ck?

sending to the user wallet directly is way better even if they pump the fees to 1% but don't act as a middle man when its not required in case of solo that's a strange intention

[kano]

why use kano over ck?
can I use nicehash?

Fee is only 0.5% vs 2%, yes NH works fine

the risk is that kano takes the money then I have to ask to withdraw it right? not mining to my address directly like ck?

I'm wondering where this risk claim comes from?
And no, you don't have to ask to withdraw it, I just send it like every other of the 2433 blocks we've found on the pool.

I've paid out a couple hundred million $ in BTC over the years, over 46000 BTC, and I'm apparently now going to do a runner on the next block?
Why exactly do you suggest this might happen?

And ... you don't seem to care the clearly documented risks, of ck losing many blocks due to his negligence ...
Read the three posts starting here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.msg61754241#msg61754241

sending to the user wallet directly is way better even if they pump the fees to 1% but don't act as a middle man when its not required in case of solo that's a strange intention

How is that a strange intention?

That's how my pool has worked for almost 9 years now paying out all that BTC.
All I've added is accounting changes for people who want to flag their account as solo.
They get all the reward of any block they find, and no reward of any block a pplns miner finds.
No changes to mining, just accounting.

Heck, even the last block the pool found, I found it testing solo rental diff issues - that pesky 'minimum difficulty' issue required for rentals.
Then I paid it out to all the pplns miners and none for the account I used to mine it.
Yet you claim I might be out to steal your BTC ... ... ... ...

I do also find the discussion in the ck thread bizarre coz ck likes to ignore things.
For example all the pool block luck comments people make in there are based on false information.
The pool does not report luck correctly, and is often quite far from correct, and he knows it.

I provide the most accurate, up to date, and best stats of any pool, the most transparent data about each reward and payout.
I run a world wide block distribution network of mining nodes to ensure our blocks get out on the world wide network as fast as possible.
ck runs a single node in some corner of the US, that he doesn't even always pay for, and hopes that's good enough ...

I don't disappear off, then make statement about not being able to access the pool, like ck does on occasion.
Hopefully nothing else ever goes wrong hey, while you wait for him ... even though you are paying him 4 times as much ...

[CryptoHFs]

why use kano over ck?
can I use nicehash?

Fee is only 0.5% vs 2%, yes NH works fine

the risk is that kano takes the money then I have to ask to withdraw it right? not mining to my address directly like ck?

I'm wondering where this risk claim comes from?
And no, you don't have to ask to withdraw it, I just send it like every other of the 2433 blocks we've found on the pool.

I've paid out a couple hundred million $ in BTC over the years, over 46000 BTC, and I'm apparently now going to do a runner on the next block?
Why exactly do you suggest this might happen?

And ... you don't seem to care the clearly documented risks, of ck losing many blocks due to his negligence ...
Read the three posts starting here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.msg61754241#msg61754241

sending to the user wallet directly is way better even if they pump the fees to 1% but don't act as a middle man when its not required in case of solo that's a strange intention

How is that a strange intention?

That's how my pool has worked for almost 9 years now paying out all that BTC.
All I've added is accounting changes for people who want to flag their account as solo.
They get all the reward of any block they find, and no reward of any block a pplns miner finds.
No changes to mining, just accounting.

Heck, even the last block the pool found, I found it testing solo rental diff issues - that pesky 'minimum difficulty' issue required for rentals.
Then I paid it out to all the pplns miners and none for the account I used to mine it.
Yet you claim I might be out to steal your BTC ... ... ... ...

I do also find the discussion in the ck thread bizarre coz ck likes to ignore things.
For example all the pool block luck comments people make in there are based on false information.
The pool does not report luck correctly, and is often quite far from correct, and he knows it.

I provide the most accurate, up to date, and best stats of any pool, the most transparent data about each reward and payout.
I run a world wide block distribution network of mining nodes to ensure our blocks get out on the world wide network as fast as possible.
ck runs a single node in some corner of the US, that he doesn't even always pay for, and hopes that's good enough ...

I don't disappear off, then make statement about not being able to access the pool, like ck does on occasion.
Hopefully nothing else ever goes wrong hey, while you wait for him ... even though you are paying him 4 times as much ...

Thank you for the response

just to keep it clear I am new in solo mining maybe a week or something, and saw the ck pool thread and its first time today to see yours. That's why I wondered why 2% or 0.5% specially the pitch there is good " No frills, no fuss 2% fee anonymous solo bitcoin mining for everyone. No registration required, no payment schemes no pool op wallets "

Frankly, i don't know him or you but your response came more personal. What I asked was in good intention instead of adding extra headache to yourself could have just setup the pool to allow people to mine to their wallet directly.

I didn't speak about stealing or anything but only better options.

I appreciate your response a lot, and for sure gonna give this pool a go as I see German server while most of unrented power on nicehash is from Europe so it suits that.

Thanks

[kano]

I should also add one more comment about mining solo here

I won't support high BTC mining group runs in the discord channel.

These represent high risk high BTC gambling on rentals with an expected loss.
If it's on MRR is a much higher expected loss also.

We have a solo fun run in the discord channel, with about a 1 in 1000 chance each run.
Most people can afford the small amount to join in, and no one is selling their house or livelihood to get involved.

[CryptoHFs]

I should also add one more comment about mining solo here

I won't support high BTC mining group runs in the discord channel.

These represent high risk high BTC gambling on rentals with an expected loss.
If it's on MRR is a much higher expected loss also.

We have a solo fun run in the discord channel, with about a 1 in 1000 chance each run.
Most people can afford the small amount to join in, and no one is selling their house or livelihood to get involved.

Just to confirm I don't join groups I risk for myself only, and I was planning on 1 EH/s rentals from nicehash 24-72 hours a time is there's an issue in that or as long as it's for personal use only its okay? I am testing now some strategies with low hash rate then will go for this so I fully understand what I'll be doing won't consider it a gambling for me.

Especially that I will do this regularly on monthly basis not one or two times.

[kano]

I should also add one more comment about mining solo here

I won't support high BTC mining group runs in the discord channel.

These represent high risk high BTC gambling on rentals with an expected loss.
If it's on MRR is a much higher expected loss also.

We have a solo fun run in the discord channel, with about a 1 in 1000 chance each run.
Most people can afford the small amount to join in, and no one is selling their house or livelihood to get involved.

Just to confirm I don't join groups I risk for myself only, and I was planning on 1 EH/s rentals from nicehash 24-72 hours a time is there's an issue in that or as long as it's for personal use only its okay? I am testing now some strategies with low hash rate then will go for this so I fully understand what I'll be doing won't consider it a gambling for me.

Especially that I will do this regularly on monthly basis not one or two times.

Well I will point out that stats and 'house edge' say that you do expect to lose doing this long term.
The more blocks you find, the closer to expected results you will get.
The 'expected' result, when rental mining, is a loss.

Rental expects you to pay more BTC than you are expected to mine.
On MRR it is always much more, and currently on fuckhash it is difficult to get an ongoing run with a low house edge.
Wiggie, who runs the fun run, manages to keep it in the low 3-5% range at the moment due to not trying to over bid the high rollers.

But, if what you are doing is not a group run, not trying to convince others to risk large amount of BTC, then it's up to you.
Of course I have no issue with discord channel discussion helping with your own solo mining on the pool.
Just be sure you do understand the statistics of what you are doing - and ask away in discord if you need help understanding it all.

[CryptoHFs]

I should also add one more comment about mining solo here

I won't support high BTC mining group runs in the discord channel.

These represent high risk high BTC gambling on rentals with an expected loss.
If it's on MRR is a much higher expected loss also.

We have a solo fun run in the discord channel, with about a 1 in 1000 chance each run.
Most people can afford the small amount to join in, and no one is selling their house or livelihood to get involved.

Just to confirm I don't join groups I risk for myself only, and I was planning on 1 EH/s rentals from nicehash 24-72 hours a time is there's an issue in that or as long as it's for personal use only its okay? I am testing now some strategies with low hash rate then will go for this so I fully understand what I'll be doing won't consider it a gambling for me.

Especially that I will do this regularly on monthly basis not one or two times.

Well I will point out that stats and 'house edge' say that you do expect to lose doing this long term.
The more blocks you find, the closer to expected results you will get.
The 'expected' result, when rental mining, is a loss.

Rental expects you to pay more BTC than you are expected to mine.
On MRR it is always much more, and currently on fuckhash it is difficult to get an ongoing run with a low house edge.
Wiggie, who runs the fun run, manages to keep it in the low 3-5% range at the moment due to not trying to over bid the high rollers.

But, if what you are doing is not a group run, not trying to convince others to risk large amount of BTC, then it's up to you.
Of course I have no issue with discord channel discussion helping with your own solo mining on the pool.
Just be sure you do understand the statistics of what you are doing - and ask away in discord if you need help understanding it all.

i dont have discord account but will create one and join thank you again

can someone post the discord group link

[kano]

It's there on the home page https://kano.is/

[CryptoHFs]

If anyone used FHash lately please confirm the port as all the following ports got refused 3333, 80, 81, 443 and 8080

all is good now

raise pool diff to 500,001
remove : that's before the port
remove stratum. subdomain (((I used nya. for safety)

[paramind22]

God forbid there is no new block found, ever.  That would mean all that hash power would be wasted?

A lot of other Sha256 coins being mined still. 

(trying to jinx the odds here, fingers crossed too).

You could also buy some girl scout cookies. 

[BurningWoodenLeg]

I teach a tech class for kids (since 1983) where kids walk out with a free PC they built on day one...

...and they're hammering me to teach them to set up a miner on LINUX, so....

a) I guess CGMINER ... ? Any thoughts?

b) And Kano? Is that a good fit?

[kano]

You must have an ASIC - no choice there.