[ANN] [SDR] Solidar fka WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income

[p3yot33at3r]

Thanks you very much. The node list worked for me for now but the synchronization is pretty slow. it needs its time.

Could you provide a list of working nodes, please? The wallet synchronization stucks at the moment.

Here's a couple that my wallet are connected to:

91.108.68.164:55889

109.73.173.119:55889

 

You're welcome. First sync might be a little slow, but once it's done you'll be flying! 

[rik8119]

Hello world,

the party for a human economy is our second sponsored Partner (I am active there too). They agreed to receive WLC for testing purposes. So hopefully in the future in cologne social projects will be funded by wlc.

Second: we are planning to create a webportal as an example for the Rhein-Sieg Kreis/Germany where people can directly get verified for a basic income and handle their payout address.

Stay tuned Rik

[rik8119]

Hello world,

since most of the organizations that i was in contact with in the last month had mostly just a very basic knowledge of the Blockchaintechnology the WINC e. V. has created a portal where people can directly validate for a basic income in WLC.

For a start the payout is set to 1 WLC per account. This is recommended to equal to 1000 EUR so that 1 mWLC is worth 1 EUR. For anyone interested, the new portal is online at: verify.winc-ev.com.

Many greetings Rik.

[p3yot33at3r]

Verification requires a scanned passport? That's a bit.....extreme......I'm not sure there will be many users who are keen on that 

[rik8119]

Hi,

it may sounds a bit extreme, but you have to consider 3 things:

1. All of the Initiatives on site i contacted are so tightly bound to their agenda they are not open for innovative ideas from outside.

2. There is always s choice to make between transparancy or security. If one wants to verify the identity of a counterpart it needs information about it. If you want the people to identify by facebookaccount or twitter it is easily cheatable. To prevent multiple accounts from the same person you need to implement complex structures. Who knows who and is this relationship trusted. Problem here are the people with no connections online. Either way you have to lay open many informations on who you know, your real name has also to be known to the public to verify that it is really you. This is maybe possible but rather something for the future or a group with more resources.

3. So it is always a balance between: how to make it as secure as possible; how to make it as usable as possible; and how could it be implemented with the resources available.

Although i am always open to new ideas. All other ideas that i know at the moment are better at one of these properties throwing both of the other over board.

But- there is a small team at freicoinalliance.com that is diving real deep into the matter. And maybe it will find a better solution. Until then a photo or scan is needed (as mentioned the data is not stored).

Another point:
It is planned to find trusted verifyer that can verify the people on site only sending the anonymus "Verification ID", so the Passport ist not needed to be scanned or digitalized.

And if it will show that this method is not working there is always the possibility to go back to the beginning and support local initiatives. The verification is just an additional option, for those who dont want to wait.

Anyway who is interested in this topic, feel free to join the discussion at freicoinalliance.com

Rik

[rik8119]

Hi p3yot33at3r,

indeed it has shown that using the passport for verification is far to impractical, so we opened up for everyone to register until we find a better fitting solution.

Rik

[p3yot33at3r]

Hi p3yot33at3r,

indeed it has shown that using the passport for verification is far to impractical, so we opened up for everyone to register until we find a better fitting solution.

Rik

Good idea 

Crypto users are a shy lot 

Being required to upload personal & privileged documents to an unknown entity pretty much goes against the whole principal of crypto & decentralization IMHO.

[p3yot33at3r]

I just tried to register, but am still being asked to send my passport scan via email?

Edit: Wait, just got a second email - no scan required & all went smooth. Nice 

[rik8119]

Hi yes,

sorry i edited the account activation email, but had forgotten to adapt the welcome email.  I am thinking about a web-site plus android app. The private keys are stored on the android device and the transaction signing is done with your mobile (like with armory but not offline). All the other less critical functions like calculating balance are done online. This should make the app much faster than the Worldleadcurrencyj

What do you think?

Rik

[rik8119]

Hello world,

the first basic income was payed on Tuesday. Everybody that did not receive the payment please control first if your WLC-Address is set correct.

For Christmas we plan a small raffle where every registered user with a valid WLC-Address can win 2000 mWLC (5x) or 100 mBTC (1x). So please feel free to spread the word. For more information stay tuned here, look in our news section (www.winc-ev.org/news) or follow us on twitter (www.twitter.com/WINC_ev).

Greetings Rik

[p3yot33at3r]

Hello world,

the first basic income was payed on Tuesday. Everybody that did not receive the payment please control first if your WLC-Address is set correct.

For Christmas we plan a small raffle where every registered user with a valid WLC-Address can win 2000 mWLC (5x) or 100 mBTC (1x). So please feel free to spread the word. For more information stay tuned here, look in our news section (www.winc-ev.org/news) or follow us on twitter (www.twitter.com/WINC_ev).

Greetings Rik

First payment received 

Nice to see this coin running so smoothly. Good work dev.

[Apriand]

How can i get WLC address? I registered but i don't know WLCaddress

[p3yot33at3r]

How can i get WLC address? I registered but i don't know WLCaddress

Use your WLC wallet address.

[rik8119]

How can i get WLC address? I registered but i don't know WLCaddress

Hi Apriand,

you can download a windows wallet here: www.winc-ev.org/english/downloads-contact or you can use the www.Bitaddress.org (but be sure to save the private key for later use - so you can access your basic income) site to generate a Wallet address. WLC addresses are like BTC addresses you just CAN'T use Multisign addresses.

greetings Rik


EDIT: I also add a short description at http://verify.winc-ev.com under Verification tab..

[yampi]

This coin is about wealth redistribution and equality but top 1-25 addresses hold 99.95% of the total supply.

[rik8119]

This coin is about wealth redistribution and equality but top 1-25 addresses hold 99.95% of the total supply.

Thank you for contributing,

99% of the 99.95% is the budget of the WINC association. These coins are ready to be distributed through the basic income project. Only 1% of all coins are given to miners. If you want to test the basic income sign up at http://verify.winc-ev.com, wait for the activation email and set your payout address under "my account" to receive a basic income in WLC.

greetings Rik

[rik8119]

First official Product in store for WLC: http://mobuinet.com/products/19-the-future-of-the-financial-system:-or-the-end-of-the-alchemist-age

Have fun everybody.

Rik

[yampi]

First official Product in store for WLC: http://mobuinet.com/products/19-the-future-of-the-financial-system:-or-the-end-of-the-alchemist-age

Have fun everybody.

Rik

Am I failing maths or are they seriously pricing 1 WLC at 866~ dollars?

[rik8119]

First official Product in store for WLC: http://mobuinet.com/products/19-the-future-of-the-financial-system:-or-the-end-of-the-alchemist-age

Have fun everybody.

Rik

Am I failing maths or are they seriously pricing 1 WLC at 866~ dollars?

When you see money as a agreement and you also agree that a basic income should cover the basic living costs than a monthly income of 1 WLC should be something like 1000 dollars.

You have to understand that demurrage currency do not work like inflationary or deflationary monetary systems. They do not receive their price from speculation and hoarding but from the commitment of the market participants all together. This is the only sustainable way to pay out a basic income and to create enough money and wealth for everyone.

Rik

[yampi]

First official Product in store for WLC: http://mobuinet.com/products/19-the-future-of-the-financial-system:-or-the-end-of-the-alchemist-age

Have fun everybody.

Rik

Am I failing maths or are they seriously pricing 1 WLC at 866~ dollars?

When you see money as a agreement and you also agree that a basic income should cover the basic living costs than a monthly income of 1 WLC should be something like 1000 dollars.

You have to understand that demurrage currency do not work like inflationary or deflationary monetary systems. They do not receive their price from speculation and hoarding but from the commitment of the market participants all together. This is the only sustainable way to pay out a basic income and to create enough money and wealth for everyone.

Rik

I was not using that question as some kind of argument against this coin.
Since I am on the basic income program, I can only be happy that 1 WLC is worth around 1k dollars.