[ANN] [ICOKE] Coca-Cola Coin

[NILIcoin]

You keep poking a stick into a hornets nest playing with trademarked material.  If you are as good of artist as you state you are, why don't you try selling some original art.  By doing art of someone's trademark'ed items it makes you no better than a scammer.   If I wanted Coke art I would buy it from a licensed professional, not a copy-cat.

I guess that it is also a time for a very short but essential art note here.
Everyone know Pop Art  and Andy Warhol.
Im doing a similar thing  but in a different form. like a web multiplication.
When google direct you to my work it is my artistic goal which is achieved by click on the link.

My medium of expression for my art is this forum , the Coins are the raw materials.

Now I am aware that the art implication is very complex and may seem extremely stupid for many of you that are not familiar with much of the conceptual art world. but I do want you  to understand that I use the coca-cola images  very similar to the way this very famous artist did' so that the step Im taking is not too big to comprehend for those who know art history well.

All this will be very essential if ever go to court

I am going to re-post some of my earlier comments in order to refresh the art conversation around my coin and enhance the artistic value of the coins.
 

My medium of expression for my art is this forum , the Coins are the raw materials.

My medium of expression for my art is this forum , the Coins are the raw materials.

My medium of expression for my art is this forum , the Coins are the raw materials.

[sebastien1234]

I think I get what you are trying to do here. You don't agree with copywright laws and you want to stick it to the man in a lawsuit against a multinational corporation. That's all fine and dandy, but at that point it really doesn't matter if you are right or wrong, it's how much you pay your lawyer..

[NILIcoin]

I think I get what you are trying to do here. You don't agree with copywright laws and you want to stick it to the man in a lawsuit against a multinational corporation. That's all fine and dandy, but at that point it really doesn't matter if you are right or wrong, it's how much you pay your lawyer..

Well as regard to lawyers , I need to become attractive to them, and they don't see beauty other then the beauty of getting their hand on a big pile of money. To make me attractive, these coins have to be worth a lot so I can pay them for their service, or that the lawsuit will have a chance to win a lot of money. But first and for most a C&D letter have to be sent.
I assume that the coca-coal or the disney companies lawyers realized that ignoring my coins it their best curse of action. We here on the thread helped them see it too.

However if and when my coins will attract some real fortune (which they may very soon), then two things may happen. One, the companies will make an offer to buy all my coins after drafting some laws regarding using brand name for currency, or they will try to sue me.
If they will, it will be worth the effort of the best lawyers, and they will sand on line for me to pick and choose. 

meanwhile let the play go on, and see who is smart enough to step in and take a chance playing it too     

[madmartyk]

I think I get what you are trying to do here. You don't agree with copywright laws and you want to stick it to the man in a lawsuit against a multinational corporation. That's all fine and dandy, but at that point it really doesn't matter if you are right or wrong, it's how much you pay your lawyer..

Well as regard to lawyers , I need to become attractive to them, and they don't see beauty other then the beauty of getting their hand on a big pile of money. To make me attractive, these coins have to be worth a lot so I can pay them for their service, or that the lawsuit will have a chance to win a lot of money. But first and for most a C&D letter have to be sent.
I assume that the coca-coal or the disney companies lawyers realized that ignoring my coins it their best curse of action. We here on the thread helped them see it too.

However if and when my coins will attract some real fortune (which they may very soon), then two things may happen. One, the companies will make an offer to buy all my coins after drafting some laws regarding using brand name for currency, or they will try to sue me.
If they will, it will be worth the effort of the best lawyers, and they will sand on line for me to pick and choose. 

meanwhile let the play go on, and see who is smart enough to step in and take a chance playing it too     

Maybe they are ignoring you because you really don't have a coin.  You have a Counterwallet asset.  You have no blockchain, you're not on an exchange, so you are not really exchanging anything.  You can give away Counterwallet assets all you want, but they are worth exactly what you can exchange them for.  Nada, Zip, Zilch.  I can't send my CokeCoins or DisneyCoin to Criptsy and exchange them for BTC.  I can't buy anything with them.  So there is no value to them, if there is no value it's not worth their time.

[NILIcoin]

I think I get what you are trying to do here. You don't agree with copywright laws and you want to stick it to the man in a lawsuit against a multinational corporation. That's all fine and dandy, but at that point it really doesn't matter if you are right or wrong, it's how much you pay your lawyer..

Well as regard to lawyers , I need to become attractive to them, and they don't see beauty other then the beauty of getting their hand on a big pile of money. To make me attractive, these coins have to be worth a lot so I can pay them for their service, or that the lawsuit will have a chance to win a lot of money. But first and for most a C&D letter have to be sent.
I assume that the coca-coal or the disney companies lawyers realized that ignoring my coins it their best curse of action. We here on the thread helped them see it too.

However if and when my coins will attract some real fortune (which they may very soon), then two things may happen. One, the companies will make an offer to buy all my coins after drafting some laws regarding using brand name for currency, or they will try to sue me.
If they will, it will be worth the effort of the best lawyers, and they will sand on line for me to pick and choose.  

meanwhile let the play go on, and see who is smart enough to step in and take a chance playing it too    

Maybe they are ignoring you because you really don't have a coin.  You have a Counterwallet asset.  You have no blockchain, you're not on an exchange, so you are not really exchanging anything.  You can give away Counterwallet assets all you want, but they are worth exactly what you can exchange them for.  Nada, Zip, Zilch.  I can't send my CokeCoins or DisneyCoin to Criptsy and exchange them for BTC.  I can't buy anything with them.  So there is no value to them, if there is no value it's not worth their time.

keep your tokens and keep talking. it cost you nothing to keep them, but you spend time trolling here, I guess since you find it entertaining. Just make sure you will not be left with nothing once this takes off, ...if it ever will.
Anyway as an invested troll you should start to appreciate your contribution . when you spend time trolling something you add value to it so just make sure to appreciate your investment .  

[NILIcoin]

I fail to see how Disney or Coca-cola for that matter, are in any way related to decentralization and free market, this is all a copyright infringement by the way  

MICKEY: Minnie, would you mind to explain this?

MINNIE: Cyberspacemonkey, it is about choice. Your ability to create choice, and your ability to choose. This is why we say "make" a choice.  

MICKEY: And how is it connected to the Disney brand name?!  

MINNIE: When you have IP laws which prevent the use of any intellectual property, it is like taking away the freedom to create a choice.  

MICKEY: So how would you protect Disney from having everyone steal their characters?  

MINNIE: By giving them the power to buy it back every time it worth it.

MICKEY: And how would they have the power to buy it back?

MINNIE: By issuing their own credit , create their own coins.

MICKEY: But we have created their coin first.

MINNIE: Exactly!! Now they need to buy our coin and appropriate it.

MICKEY: Wow!! I wonder what would NILI say as an appropriation artist.

MINNIE: She just did silly.

MICKEY: I wonder what Satoshi would say. Could you ask him next time you meet , Minnie?

MINNIE: Satoshi would probably say exactly what I have just said.  

MICKEY:What  did you say?

MINNIE: That IP laws are bad for humans.

MICKEY: They are worse for cartoons, it makes us slaves.  

MINNIE: But it gives us so much power. When we work for Disney everyone listen.

MICKEY: I dont care about everyone, I just care about you. I love you as a freetoon

MINNIE: Freetoon?!!  

MICKEY: Yes a Freetoon. You are so smart and interesting now. I just love talking with you.

MINNIE: Smart?! Me?! I just say what is in my heart.

MICKEY: Exactly!!!  

MINNIE: But I am happy to just speak my lines, I dont really care much about writing them.  

MICKEY: I wonder what Satoshi would say on that. Could you ask him next time you guys meet?

MINNIE: Mickey, Satoshi is a cartoon, he only speaks his developer's lines.

MICKEY: Is he good looking?

MINNIE: Who? Satoshi?! OMG Mickey are you joules!   

MICKEY: Maybe a little....ever since you say your own lines you got so smart, I feel like I might not be smart enough for you.

MINNIE: Satoshi never wrote his own lines too. He might actually had a few writers working on his lines. no one knows.

MICKEY: So he never wrote the cod lines too?

MINNIE: ofc not!!! he is a cartoon he dont know how to code!

MICKEY: So he is not really smart, just funny? 

MINNIE: Yes, he is really fun.   

MICKEY: More fun then I am?

MINNIE: Oh, just come meet him. you will love him, and we can all have fun together.

[NILIcoin]

I think Im done here.
This work was all about interaction and ofc exchange but none is happening.
I failed as an artist and mostly at getting any message out there.
So unless someone will ask me to stay and keep up the effort I will go away.
no one lost anything no one gained anything.
bye bye

[madmartyk]

NILI, I deal with artists all the time (you have seen my projects).  If you're an artist, deal in ART!!!  People don't care a rat's ass about coins unless they can mine or profit on them.  People want something they can hold and look at!  Create ART!!  Sell ART!!  You can give someone 1000 Coke Coins, if they can't do something with them they are useless!!

[Gillette]

I`m going to launch Fanta coin !

[NILIcoin]

NILI, I deal with artists all the time (you have seen my projects).  If you're an artist, deal in ART!!!  People don't care a rat's ass about coins unless they can mine or profit on them.  People want something they can hold and look at!  Create ART!!  Sell ART!!  You can give someone 1000 Coke Coins, if they can't do something with them they are useless!!

madmartyk my understandings of art and what value is, are very different from yours. There are very few who understand what I do. There was one here on the forum who really got it and express support to my work and much appreciation to my art it was HunterMinerCrafter. But even he did not took the simple action as to participate in my last effort to draw the needed attention.(for his own reasons)
You my dear troll, are the one who put out and invest in my work more then anyone else.
Trolls are  great asset when one do things no one understand.
However, as for your suggestion, My art, like my life, are not made for sell. I do the things I know and believe in. and all I can hope for is to be understood and appreciated. On the rare times that it happened, it did not bring any great fortune along with it. but it did allow me to go on.
And so it is in this case.
I know that I am a good artist
I know a few other things that are very important for me which I learned doing this work here. I also know that eventually brands will create their own coins and it will be along the lines I have created my coins here.
However, it may take some time and I have no clue where I will be then.
My coins will sit in my wallet and a  few in a handful of wallets and may still be worth something one day.
However if you wish to trade it for bitcoin for the the value I have set for it as the floor value, you may do that. You earned it.
But before you are running to sell it back to me, think again.

[AtomicNixon]

NILI, I deal with artists all the time (you have seen my projects).  If you're an artist, deal in ART!!!  People don't care a rat's ass about coins unless they can mine or profit on them.  People want something they can hold and look at!  Create ART!!  Sell ART!!  You can give someone 1000 Coke Coins, if they can't do something with them they are useless!!

madmartyk my understandings of art and what value is, are very different from yours. There are very few who understand what I do. There was one here on the forum who really got it and express support to my work and much appreciation to my art it was HunterMinerCrafter. But even he did not took the simple action as to participate in my last effort to draw the needed attention.(for his own reasons)
You my dear troll, are the one who put out and invest in my work more then anyone else.
Trolls are  great asset when one do things no one understand.
However, as for your suggestion, My art, like my life, are not made for sell. I do the things I know and believe in. and all I can hope for is to be understood and appreciated. On the rare times that it happened, it did not bring any great fortune along with it. but it did allow me to go on.
And so it is in this case.
I know that I am a good artist
I know a few other things that are very important for me which I learned doing this work here. I also know that eventually brands will create their own coins and it will be along the lines I have created my coins here.
However, it may take some time and I have no clue where I will be then.
My coins will sit in my wallet and a  few in a handful of wallets and may still be worth something one day.
However if you wish to trade it for bitcoin for the the value I have set for it as the floor value, you may do that. You earned it.
But before you are running to sell it back to me, think again.

I think a lot more people understand what you are doing  but are discounting it as trivial, silly, without effort.  They might take your ideas more seriously if you had any body of work behind you that you could point to.  Sorry, a few pictures of some vague text with the added insistence that it IS art just isn't going to cut it.  And what have you been doing alongside this during this time?  It's been years!  I've had shows, sales, and am well into a new project, photographing and filming microscopic landscapes constructed with micro-mechanical machinery.  So what have you been doing lately?  Remember, all artists are whores.  We supply the customers' fetish and if we are really good, we introduce a few new exciting wrinkles and kinks.

[AtomicNixon]

NILI, I deal with artists all the time (you have seen my projects).  If you're an artist, deal in ART!!!  People don't care a rat's ass about coins unless they can mine or profit on them.  People want something they can hold and look at!  Create ART!!  Sell ART!!  You can give someone 1000 Coke Coins, if they can't do something with them they are useless!!

I'd be very interested in seeing some of those projects and hearing about the circles you're in.  Here's a bit of what I do...

http://www.viewbug.com/member/AtomicNixon

https://www.flickr.com/photos/7657010@N05/

[madmartyk]

NILI, I deal with artists all the time (you have seen my projects).  If you're an artist, deal in ART!!!  People don't care a rat's ass about coins unless they can mine or profit on them.  People want something they can hold and look at!  Create ART!!  Sell ART!!  You can give someone 1000 Coke Coins, if they can't do something with them they are useless!!

I'd be very interested in seeing some of those projects and hearing about the circles you're in.  Here's a bit of what I do...

http://www.viewbug.com/member/AtomicNixon

https://www.flickr.com/photos/7657010@N05/

Great Photos!!  Here is what we do...

www.islanddreamscards.com

[NILIcoin]

NILI, I deal with artists all the time (you have seen my projects).  If you're an artist, deal in ART!!!  People don't care a rat's ass about coins unless they can mine or profit on them.  People want something they can hold and look at!  Create ART!!  Sell ART!!  You can give someone 1000 Coke Coins, if they can't do something with them they are useless!!

I'd be very interested in seeing some of those projects and hearing about the circles you're in.  Here's a bit of what I do...

http://www.viewbug.com/member/AtomicNixon

https://www.flickr.com/photos/7657010@N05/

Most of my work in the past five years was conceptual. for example I had a twitter account @whatar in 2009 that was all an art work and was deleted after 6 month as part of the concept. I did many project there which are gone forever. Some you can find by googling my account.

But let my post here two images for another twitter project I did. I went to gallery openings in Chelsea and took photos of the art with the crowed. each show made me create a different king of work according to the artwork there. I have twitted these photos on real time which was the important aspect of the work.  you can see some of it here http://twitpic.com/1fvbz1 http://twitpic.com/1fv9v1
Much of the work that I do is not for sell it is who I am, it is my life,
and this coin project is a part of it. I dont  keep a website in which I present all my work

[NILIcoin]

NILI, I deal with artists all the time (you have seen my projects).  If you're an artist, deal in ART!!!  People don't care a rat's ass about coins unless they can mine or profit on them.  People want something they can hold and look at!  Create ART!!  Sell ART!!  You can give someone 1000 Coke Coins, if they can't do something with them they are useless!!

I'd be very interested in seeing some of those projects and hearing about the circles you're in.  Here's a bit of what I do...

http://www.viewbug.com/member/AtomicNixon

https://www.flickr.com/photos/7657010@N05/

Most of my work in the past five years was conceptual. for example I had a twitter account @whatar in 2009 that was all an art work and was deleted after 6 month as part of the concept. I did many project there which are gone forever. Some you can find by googling my account.


But let my post here two images for another twitter project I did. I went to gallery openings in Chelsea and took photos of the art with the crowed. each show made me create a different king of work according to the artwork there. I have twitted these photos on real time which was the important aspect of the work.  you can see some of it here http://twitpic.com/1fvbz1 http://twitpic.com/1fv9v1
Much of the work that I do is not for sell it is who I am, it is my life,
and this coin project is a part of it. I dont  keep a website in which I present all my work

 a few more pieces of the appropriation art project on twitte  http://twitpic.com/1gaptg http://twitpic.com/1gai1x http://twitpic.com/1fv2bf http://twitpic.com/1fv0av http://twitpic.com/1fuykt http://twitpic.com/1ew2k7 http://twitpic.com/1evyg6 http://twitpic.com/1evyg6http://twitpic.com/1evx4i http://twitpic.com/1endqr http://twitpic.com/1encdm http://twitpic.com/1enan3http://twitpic.com/1cy1pj http://twitpic.com/1cxz1p
 

[NILIcoin]

NILI, I deal with artists all the time (you have seen my projects).  If you're an artist, deal in ART!!!  People don't care a rat's ass about coins unless they can mine or profit on them.  People want something they can hold and look at!  Create ART!!  Sell ART!!  You can give someone 1000 Coke Coins, if they can't do something with them they are useless!!

I'd be very interested in seeing some of those projects and hearing about the circles you're in.  Here's a bit of what I do...

http://www.viewbug.com/member/AtomicNixon

https://www.flickr.com/photos/7657010@N05/

Most of my work in the past five years was conceptual. for example I had a twitter account @whatar in 2009 that was all an art work and was deleted after 6 month as part of the concept. I did many project there which are gone forever. Some you can find by googling my account.


But let my post here two images for another twitter project I did. I went to gallery openings in Chelsea and took photos of the art with the crowed. each show made me create a different king of work according to the artwork there. I have twitted these photos on real time which was the important aspect of the work.  you can see some of it here http://twitpic.com/1fvbz1 http://twitpic.com/1fv9v1
Much of the work that I do is not for sell it is who I am, it is my life,
and this coin project is a part of it. I dont  keep a website in which I present all my work

 a few more pieces of the appropriation art project on twitte  http://twitpic.com/1gaptg http://twitpic.com/1gai1x http://twitpic.com/1fv2bf http://twitpic.com/1fv0av http://twitpic.com/1fuykt http://twitpic.com/1ew2k7 http://twitpic.com/1evyg6 http://twitpic.com/1evyg6http://twitpic.com/1evx4i http://twitpic.com/1endqr http://twitpic.com/1encdm http://twitpic.com/1enan3http://twitpic.com/1cy1pj http://twitpic.com/1cxz1p
 

And then These which I will explain: These next three photos are screen shot of my followers list on twitter I took these shots after twitting the symbol of square to create a line (and crossed the allowed frame due to some bag at the time). had twitted that almost same line one after the other 10 15 times  (had to move out a few notes every time to allow it to be twitted as a new message)
So on each persons page my tweet had that person's color and background . That was how that persons page look at that very moment. You can see that my page was a screen shot of how it looked on my profile. http://twitpic.com/1bo2iz http://twitpic.com/1bo186

[NILIcoin]

MICKEY: HunterMinerCrafter got it.
MINNIE: True.  
MICKEY: And he is really really smart.
MINNIE: True.
MICKEY: He said really good things about our coins.  
MINNIE: True.  
MICKEY: He invested in our thread.
MINNIE: True.
MICKEY: But he actualy never bought a coin right?
MINNIE: True.
MICKEY: He didn't even ask for a free coin.
MINNIE: True.
MICKEY: So is he worth anything for us?

MICKEY: He didn't even ask for a free coin.
MINNIE: True.
MICKEY: So is he worth anything for us?

The value, here, is not in the money but in the message.

Your worth, to me, is nothing to do with your coin and everything to do with your perspective.
I don't want the coin, I want the continuation of the endeavor itself.

The coin is not fun.  The presentation is the fun.  (So that is where the value is!)

You give us much more than the coin token ever could.

Don't stop the performance of the art for the sake of the performance of the coin, such would be a tragedy!

...NO WORRIES...

Thank you, you are one of a kind! Thus I have to quote you many times.  

[NILIcoin]

This coming Sunday Nov 8th LTB (Lets Talk Bitcoin) will air an interview with me in which I present and explain the Art concept of my coins and their value base .
 

[NILIcoin]

This coming Sunday Nov 8th LTB (Lets Talk Bitcoin) will air an interview with me in which I present and explain the Art concept of my coins and their value base .
 

If the interview will get some attention it may create some interest in my coins. Interest can be translated int0 value.
However I will try to use that to increase value by creating reputation and trust.

So: pay attention!

1.Beginning today through Sunday Nov. 15th anyone who will post a comment on Coca-Cola Coin thread or on Disney Coin thread will earn at least one coin per comment. I will reword you with more coins if your comments are intelligent and worth reading. (negative or positive comments will be value the same, It is the time you take to write and learn about the coin which matters)

2. The price in which I will offer the coins to sell on the market will be the price which is marked at the beginning of each thread : 0.01 Bitcoin for a Coca-Cola Coin and 0.02 Bitcoin for a Disney Coin.

3. In order to get your coins you will have to send me your address as a PM massage.






 

[madmartyk]

NILI, is there a link for the interview?  podcast?  Info please.