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March 22, 2021, 11:17:08 AM
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Walt Disney's evil head is going to eat you like a Cuban child.




NIMMIE: I'm scared Mickey, are we doing something wrong? Who is this evil blue guy they sent us?

MICKEY: Dont worry Minnie, he may look scary but he is not as powerful as we are. We definitely have seniority in Disney's world over this guy , who ever he might be.
 (who is he anyway, anyone knows?)


MINNIE: But everyone here in the thread says that even Walt himself is mad.

MICKEY: Walt is not alive anymore silly, they mean that the company managers are going to be mad.

MINNIE: So don't we have seniority over them too? they must have came after us.


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MINNIE: The things we do here as coin presenters, is like what Newton described as "Standing on the shoulders of giants".

MICKEY: Oh Minnie you always confuse things. This quote is used in the academia not in the world of commerce and intellectual property laws!.

MINNIE: But I think that Walt was a genius too, and other people should be free to 'stand on his shoulders'. Just like they do in bitcoin. They call it "Open-Source" and I like that a lot.


MINNIE: Its this cute guy again, I just love him!

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MICKEY: Minnie!!!! WTF!  These are COCA-COLA colors! We need to promote Disney coin. I told you to dress up in blue

MINNIE: But these are MY colors. This is how Walt made me.

MICKEY: Obviously you dont understand anything, Coca-Cola will sue us, they used "your" colors first.


MINNIE: So are you going to sue Twitter for using your colors?!



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MINNIE: Mickey, should we rethink our strategy? No one is buying our coins.

MICKEY: Minnie, the concept that we sell is very sophisticated and we are on the air less the two weeks.

MINNIE: So do you think that people will eventually get it?

MICKEY: Satoshi was mining for a whole year before anyone got it

MINNIE: O.K, so we'll keep digging...



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March 23, 2021, 08:45:39 AM
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MINNIE: I think that I crossed a line again....

MICKEY: How many times have I asked  the animators to color in the fields right away, I was hoping that Pixar will solve that, but you are so out of line .

MINNIE: I didn't cross my lines this time Mickey, I crossed human lines, I sent Satoshi a private message about us.

MICKEY: This is so embarrassing Minnie, Everyone knows that his profile is not active.

MINNIE: But he is active and he crosses the lines back into 3D all the times!


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March 23, 2021, 10:27:41 AM
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How much would it cost to these companies to ask their lawyers to issue a C&D ?

Very little, but they must consider the future cost as well as the immediate cost.  Sending the C&D too early, before they can point to specific actionable infringements, would cost them much in any later proceedings.  They know not to strike early or it will weaken their strikes later.

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(considering the very obvious nature of the case, at some point you might wondering if it isn't the law firm working for these companies trying to get easy fees... lol I hope I won't get sued myself, making such comment    Grin)

One thing that I've always found consistently holds true in any of my dealings with legal arms of large companies (in-house teams or contracted consultation, alike) is that a large part of their function seems to be simply in justifying creation of more work for themselves.  This would be just more reason that they would wait for now, as they can bill much more for civil proceedings than they can for just sending a flimsy C&D.  They will "do both" once they are confident that the C&D won't only serve to reduce the number of hours that the civil proceedings could go on for.

EDIT: P.S.  I am not so sure that the nature of the case is really so obvious.  So far, there does not seem to be anything actionable at all.  Of course, IANAL.  However, I suspect that Nili is smart enough not to give them anything actionable in the course of her work.  If she does everything right, they will be standing around scratching their heads and thinking about how to justify more time standing around scratching their heads, because they will know this will be all they will really be able to bill for out of it.  I'm sure they'll find plenty of reason to bill for plenty of time for plenty of head scratching, but might never find anything actionable otherwise.  I'm sure the companies will still pay them large sums for the head-scratching to continue, just in case Nili does misstep and something does become actionable.




MICKEY: Minnie, this morning while brushing my teeth I looked in the mirror from all angles.
 I am a mouse!


MINNIE: You are shaped like a mouse, but this does not make you one.

MICKEY: So what am I then Minnie? How can we keep on with our life not knowing who you are?.

MINNIE: We are IP and our life is a property of the Disney company.

MICKEY: Wow Minnie, I never appreciated how much you really know, you always seem so simple minded.

MINNIE: Exactly, should I repeat Newton quote? Actually this will make it multiplication and thus remove from the truth.

MICKEY: Wow, Wow...you are getting too smart, lf you keep on like that we will have to switch colors.



MINNIE: xxxxxxxx.

MICKEY: yyyyyyyy.

MINNIE: xxxxxxxx.

MICKEY: yyyyyyyy.

MINNIE: xxxxxxxx.



MINNIE: NO! from now on I will make my own colors choices with no IP restrains.  

MICKEY: So, are we going to have our own IP Address too?


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March 23, 2021, 11:08:11 AM
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MINNIE: Hello!

MICKEY: Hey Minnie, I thought that you will be another color after our last sequence.  

MINNIE: Well, I actually realized that here on our thread, it is the [ color=red ] that defines me.

MICKEY: So am I only [ color=blue ] ?! Not even a mouse shape too?

MINNIE: yes!

MICKEY: This is mind blowing...... So, the name is the only feature we share with our other parallel Disney character existence?

MINNIE: Indeed it is.  

MICKEY: Wow, this is a powerful notion. Do you think that smart people like lawyers realize that too?.






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March 23, 2021, 11:34:05 AM
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MICKEY: Hey Minnie, could you come up with a killer one sentence phrase that explains our
coin and its importance to the bitcoiners and lawyer
which, read our thread and still don't get it?


MINNIE: I can think of one: ""Making me happy will make you even happier"

MICKEY: You are talking to humans....Greedy and smart....

MINNIE: Yes. these are the ones thinking that being rich will make them happy, right?

MICKEY: So making you rich will make them richer...?! that is indeed simple!

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MINNIE: Our work here is done.

MICKEY: what do you mean done?! we just started!!

MINNIE: Our job was to start it.

MICKEY: So this is it?.

MINNIE: yep.


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MICKEY:Good morning everyone!!!

MINNIE: Mickey, what are you doing here? Our job here is done.

MICKEY: Exactly Minnie, So now we can have real fun.

MINNIE: We need to make a living Mickey, We can't just play out here.

MICKEY: As long as we were Disney property we had to work, but now we are free, Hooray!! 75 years... dont you think its time to have some fun?.

MINNIE: We are still Disney IP and they will come after us eventually. 

MICKEY: Not if we will stay within the boundaries of our colors rather than our shape, You are a genius Ninnie, you are the one who figure that out. You are a true artist!





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MINNIE: That last thing we did was real fun, Mickey.

MICKEY: Yah, viva la decentralize!!!

MINNIE: "Decentralize" rock!

MICKEY:  A Decentralized celebration.

MINNIE: Hey, we should celebrate our IP freedom and the triumph of crypto-transactions.

MICKEY: Lets have a party then

MINNIE: Yes lets do it!! We need to think of the color theme for our party.  







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MICKEY: We need to think of the intellectual theme of our party, not the color scheme, Minnie.

MINNIE: It is color 'theme' not 'scheme'

MICKEY: But color is not a theme.

MINNIE: Saying that color is not an intellectual theme is like saying that it is not a thing.

MICKEY: Well, color is not a thing, it is a wave-length.

MINNIE: So is it the wave-length which defines us?

MICKEY: and the size too.




MINNIE: If the size defines us too, we are a "thing" not only color.

MICKEY: Well, Im not sure that a square being two dimensional is a thing at all.

MINNIE: Now I finally get it.

MICKEY:get what?

MINNIE: The reason they treat us like intellectual property and not simply a property.

MICKEY: I don't follow you, is intelect a two dimensional entity?

MINNIE: Yes, and signals are too.

MICKEY: I guess thus that you were correct. Color theme is an intellectual theme too.


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MICKEY: Did you noticed the white between the red and blue stripes?.

MINNIE: You mean between this...

MICKEY: ...and that

MINNIE: Mickey

MICKEY: This and also that above.

MINNIE: You know what it makes me think of?

MICKEY: The IUSA?.



MINNIE: I am a red stripe.

MICKEY: I am a blue stripe.

MINNIE: I am red.

MICKEY: I am blue.

MINNIE: I am.

MICKEY: I.

MINNIE: .


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MINNIE: I think that we have done enough to establish our identity.

MICKEY: No cloning here only multiples.

MINNIE: Not even multiples, only different presentation of the same perception.

MICKEY: Do you think that they can establish IP valuation based on perception?  .

MINNIE: If they can I am Einstein.  

MICKEY: Is Einstein a real character or like Satoshi, a fictional genius?

MINNIE: Unless he made a mistake he is not a woman

MICKEY:  you mean human?!.




MICKEY: Since you are not Einstein Im still a bit concern with that IP issue, are you sure Disney can't hurt us?.

MINNIE: We might need Satoshi's help to establish our claim.

MICKEY: Can you phrase our claim in one sentence.

MINNIE: It is actualy two claims.

MICKEY: OK then two sentences .

MINNIE: 1.  If we are clones and not multiples of the original Mickey and Minnie, no IP constraints applies to us as clones.
 2. If we establish the multiplicity of perception, than even if our visual image presentation
 is the same, our existence in reality can be different.


MICKEY : Wow, did Satoshi told you that?! OMG I think that he Did. He got back to you!!!



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MINNIE: I think that we have done enough to establish our identity.

MICKEY: No cloning here only multiples.

MINNIE: Not even multiples, only different presentation of the same perception.

MICKEY: Do you think that they can establish IP valuation based on perception?  .

MINNIE: If they can I am Einstein.  

MICKEY: Is Einstein a real character or like Satoshi, a fictional genius?

MINNIE: Unless he made a mistake he is not a woman

MICKEY:  you mean human?!.




MICKEY: Since you are not Einstein Im still a bit concern with that IP issue, are you sure Disney can't hurt us?.

MINNIE: We might need Satoshi's help to establish our claim.

MICKEY: Can you phrase our claim in one sentence.

MINNIE: It is actualy two claims.

MICKEY: OK then two sentences .

MINNIE: 1.  If we are clones and not multiples of the original Mickey and Minnie, no IP constraints applies to us as clones.
 2. If we establish the multiplicity of perception, than even if our visual image presentation
 is the same, our existence in reality can be different.


MICKEY : Wow, did Satoshi told you that?! OMG I think that he Did. He got back to you!!!



MINNIE: You see, this is how rumors start.

MICKEY: So you did not speak with Satoshi directly?

MINNIE: Maybe only directly, but that I would not know for sure until he will confirm.

MICKEY: And what do you mean by that?

MINNIE: There is a lot we don't know about communication and information flow.

MICKEY: Like channeling?! This is spiritual bulshit, we are talking about rational thinking.

MINNIE: Is it less rational than time traveling through wormhole to parallel universe?  

MICKEY: Parallel Universe?! That is stupid..

MINNIE: Well, not if you insist to be a clone rather than multiplication of yourself  

MICKEY: Yes Einstein, can you explain yourself?

MINNIE: LOL actualy I can but on the next sequence. This one is getting too long.

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MICKEY: I cant wait to hear your explanation.

MINNIE: You, and the Disney lawyers too.

MICKEY: So how cloning is different from multiplications?

MINNIE: Creation is the cloning of an original, engineered to diversify through multiplications, which create uniqueness.   

MICKEY:  The difference between cloning and multiplication, Ninnie.

MINNIE: while a clone may appear different or behave different it is engineered the same.
 Multiplication is the abstract of "same" 

MICKEY: But IP includes engineering legal rights too, not only visual copies.

MINNIE: True, but we have never been considered engineered, only a visual depictions.

MICKEY: I think that you just gave the lawyers a way to come up with justifications to slave us again..

MINNIE: No, I just gave them a busy weekend.

MICKEY:Can't they claim us an engineered intellectual property? 

MINNIE: Only if they can prove it, and for this they will need mathematicians .

MICKEY: To prove what exactly? .

MINNIE: That we have been double spent.









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MICKEY: What is our part on the IDISNEY coin team now? Im a bit confused.

MINNIE: We are still the presenters of the coin.

MICKEY: But something did changed.

MINNIE: We realized the freedom of representation.

MICKEY: As being clones?

MINNIE: No! As being the product of a clone. " It is not my fault I was drawn that way"

MICKEY: So is it humans which are clones, not cartoons?

MINNIE:  Humans, cartoons, and every idea ever to be materialised. These are all clones in the eyes of the beholder..




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MICKEY: you couldn't find a smaller image, Minnie?

MINNIE: But I really love NY.

MICKEY: We need to start promoting our coin's art show.

MINNIE: Yes but this is NYC, Mickey...!

MICKEY: Truly, I dont get whats the big deal here.

MINNIE: Oh Mickey, sometimes you really do sound like a mouse.

MICKEY: And you sometime look like one.


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MINNIE: How do I look Mickey?

MICKEY: Splendid as usual.

MINNIE: Thank you dear, but I meant visually, how do you actualy picture my image?

MICKEY: Minnie, you know I love you in which ever manifestation you choose.

MINNIE: But for our show I need to choose the best one.

MICKEY: which show?!.

MINNE: Our art show in NYC  "On The Shoulders Of Giants"   

MICKEY: I think that red would look perfect.



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MINNIE: We got the space, the title and the date for our coin's art show.

MICKEY: But the pieces for the show are not made yet.

MINNIE: All the pieces are here Mickey, It is these sequences of us talking.

MICKEY: But they have to be made into real objects for people to buy and take home .

MINNIE: Does it means that we are going to be made real too?

MICKEY: Yes Minnie, that is the point of having an art show!

MINNIE: This is so exciting, Mickey. Do you think that the next thing after being real is actually being alive?

MICKEY: I have no clue what life means Minnie.







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