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March 03, 2011, 07:02:50 PM
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LMGTFY, it's not likely they are transferring the coins to mybitcoin themselves. The address is a mybitcoin.com address - it happens automatically.

My belief is that the motivation behind establishing a donation box for the EFF wasn't just to help them raise money, but as a way of introducing bitcoin to the EFF, with the hope that EFF will take the time to learn how bitcoin works and become an ally in advocating it to other organizations. If they find a way report it as donation income, for example, then that would set a precedent that the rest of us could follow. Like you said ribuck, EFF has better things to do then install some software and help us debug it. But, thanks to your donations, now they have a stake in it, and an incentive to play along!

It's none of our business what they do with it, but if it's the case that they're just sitting in the account because we haven't followed up on it, then I it's appropriate for us to let them know about the alternatives. It should be a learning opportunity, I'm pretty sure that was the whole point.



All true, and all good, and I'm happy that the EFF have the opportunity to learn about bitcoins, but it still doesn't explain the need for our concern right now. If the EFF really doesn't know what to do with the bitcoins they've received, the coins will sit then and probably appreciate in value. We'll find out when the EFF release their next set of accounts, and can nudge them then. Until then, this still seems like a solution in search of a problem. Which is fine when it's our time; it's much less fine when it's the time of an over-worked campaigning organisation.

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March 03, 2011, 07:05:49 PM
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Bitcoin get transferred out of mybitcoin anyway. You can look at the block explorer history and see for yourself.

You guys are silly beyond belief.

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March 14, 2011, 07:12:09 PM
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Bitcoin get transferred out of mybitcoin anyway. You can look at the block explorer history and see for yourself.

You guys are silly beyond belief.

you seem to misunderstand how these shared wallets work. maybe that is beyond belief? Smiley

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May 25, 2011, 08:38:39 PM
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is it just me or do they no longer have bitcoins as a donation option?
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May 25, 2011, 08:47:49 PM
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whoa, it does look like it was removed...wtf ?

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May 25, 2011, 09:51:07 PM
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is it just me or do they no longer have bitcoins as a donation option?

Looks like they removed bitcoin as an option from their "other ways to give" page.

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

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May 25, 2011, 10:01:21 PM
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Are you kidding me? Haven't they gotten like $15k worth?

I think this is from eating with politicians.

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May 25, 2011, 10:05:08 PM
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They’ve received over 3k BTC if I recall correctly.

This is a shame.

This is their address, retrieved from the Google Cache.

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May 25, 2011, 10:09:33 PM
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is it just me or do they no longer have bitcoins as a donation option?
Hm, that has happened within the last 6 hours, the Bitcoin address was there earlier today when I looked at the page.

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May 25, 2011, 10:15:12 PM
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They might be testing our response time, to see if we are still paying attention to them.

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

- Carroll Quigley, CFR member, mentor to Bill Clinton, from 'Tragedy And Hope'
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May 25, 2011, 10:16:14 PM
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Whoa!  Maybe they just want to set up a "submit to this address" button; what with our being able to see exactly how much they were getting.

But if the EFF turns its back on Bitcoin, I will not be happy.
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May 25, 2011, 10:29:18 PM
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Whoa!  Maybe they just want to set up a "submit to this address" button; what with our being able to see exactly how much they were getting.

But if the EFF turns its back on Bitcoin, I will not be happy.
more likely they not "turned back to BTC", but simply lack extra-staff to handle it.
when BTC status/flow clarified and simplified, its back, IMO.
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May 25, 2011, 10:46:03 PM
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Whoa!  Maybe they just want to set up a "submit to this address" button; what with our being able to see exactly how much they were getting.

But if the EFF turns its back on Bitcoin, I will not be happy.
more likely they not "turned back to BTC", but simply lack extra-staff to handle it.
when BTC status/flow clarified and simplified, its back, IMO.

Lol, no way. How many staff do you think it takes? Do you see all the people in this forum handling bitcoin donations? Do they all have tons of staff?

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May 25, 2011, 11:09:49 PM
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I bet there will still be donation to the EFF after this.

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May 26, 2011, 05:35:10 AM
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i think it would be interesting to contact them about it and ask....

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May 26, 2011, 05:58:17 AM
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i think it would be interesting to contact them about it and ask....

Yes, that's a good idea.

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June 01, 2011, 02:48:42 AM
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June 01, 2011, 05:41:49 PM
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I sent an email may 25th - no response.

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June 01, 2011, 06:26:42 PM
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just got this back:
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Thank you for contacting the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF). At this time, we have determined that legal tender is the best way to help EFF support online civil liberties. When we have completed our review of the options and legalities pertinent to bitcoin, we may make a statement. I'm not certain and I can't promise anything.

Thank you for your desire to support us!

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June 02, 2011, 12:05:00 AM
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just got this back:
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Thank you for contacting the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF). At this time, we have determined that legal tender is the best way to help EFF support online civil liberties. When we have completed our review of the options and legalities pertinent to bitcoin, we may make a statement. I'm not certain and I can't promise anything.

Thank you for your desire to support us!

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Become a Member! https://www.eff.org/support


EFF was created when ACLU refused to help Steve Jackson.

EFF is stuck in legal mud on BTC.

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Proposal: http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=11541.msg162881#msg162881
Inception: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/296
Goal: http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=12536.0
Means: Code, donations, and brutal criticism. I've got a thick skin. 1Gc3xCHAzwvTDnyMW3evBBr5qNRDN3DRpq
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