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January 25, 2016, 04:16:58 AM |
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I feel it should be refunded. Please give him one more chance why shouldnt you. If he didnt see. Your site was not perfect it has problem just like any other. I wait for your reply
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secondstrade.com (OP)
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January 25, 2016, 04:42:38 AM |
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좋은 아침 adminsecondstradecom,
i've been watching on this tread and read this page by page to compare my bet that was having problems. and as i read the last post of yours, you refunded thise problems that looks like this
Betting Transaction id : 15d8d8943d75f693d7d1d4c99f7fa35d1dc794a82ad72eeeec32146334eb5ce0
Betting address : 1LW6wutTyikPosmQTdRPiPRVQZq3AXwi2D
Betting asset : SECONDS5 DOWN
Betting BTC : 0.3
Betting price : 4
Betting expire price : 6 correct value ( ''0'')
Betting start seed : 19:35:52+227.65+1+1.12707
Betting start seed convert SHA256: 4166fadd59def69e69d730d2f815f43b3cf54f09ed6f66d4538f5567861ab9c2
Betting expire seed : 19:35:57+227.64+2+1.12707
Betting expire seed convert SHA256: 0cfe1ef2b28e5ec9ac8e90f1f504c60915b1bea2221ab9ddcee824f0578c48ce
i know that your site will also consider on this refund request,
i believe this is the only error in this wallet address.
고맙습니다
we will check for that . please wait some more. |
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secondstrade.com (OP)
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January 25, 2016, 05:16:48 AM |
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hi? everyone? we had problem seed value errors and the problem had been fixed 4 month ago. there are even some request for transaction of 10 month ago. we have refunded every requests for the seed problem for last 3~4 months . and now we think that most of these request have been refunded. we are also very sorry for your inconvenience. and we can not stick to the problem for an indefinite time. we have to develop new service. we have sentence as below on the refund Policy of http://secondstrade.com/notice.html4. bets more than a month ago will not be refunded. So please feel free to contact us immediately in case of problems. but we have can not keep the rule until now. from now on, we keep the rule. so please tell me immediately if our system have a problem. bets more than a month before will can not be refunded. thank you. |
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Bitraker
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January 25, 2016, 06:45:35 AM |
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My friend want his money please refund! Im going to wait now.
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argul1984
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January 25, 2016, 07:10:51 AM |
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KINDLY INCLUDE MY ERRORS BEFORE THE FINAL IMPLEMENTATION OF REFUND RULES
this do have a perfect time was taken, game was started at 17:32:14 and ended at 17:32:19.
this shows how easy if the mili of seconds were eliminated from being used in converting
value using sha256 gen.
this could be a very normal bet and would have been paid out 0.66 bitcoin until something
strange and seems unexplainable to me on what ive discovered. the system displayed the ''Betting expire price'' value of ''0'' that will make this bet soon to be included in the list for those errors that were paid as a refund.
and that leads me to a suggestion of how about if bet like this will still have to receive desired payout and for what reasons?
1. the whole bet process will have its completion right after it has a official expiry time that will be use to have first digit value using sha 256 gen, in that way, the game of a certain bet is over before your system will post what was the first digit generated, posting this bet will just to show to the players what was the result of that game and during this process, official game was already over. if the system picked a wrong value which we normally dont know how, this has no relation affecting results for the entire betting process and purely for viewers comprehension only.
these mistakes should deserve a whole payout amount if there's nothing wrong with the values used to be feed in sha 256 generator.
on the other way, this was just a suggedtion and you have the full authority on who will have to be settled and whos not. refunds, payout etc. were at your own disposal.
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kindly refund me on this bet, (wrong picked of first digit) error. (colored red)
0.3 btc
Betting Transaction id : f54df92941ffb4e17b24b2d97800a559debcd7a41f99328df1279d1367646b71
Betting address : 1TnCcpg5hYYV5sxENbar3vMepoXrDKptK
Betting asset : SECONDS5 UP
Betting BTC : 0.3
Betting price : 2
Betting expire price : 0
Betting start seed : 17:32:14+224.79+9+1.11162
Betting start seed convert SHA256: 26636cc4a181e2db01423a841f0ef8dd5efbb86bdc6ae80714996768c8a64ce7
Betting expire seed : 17:32:19+224.81+8+1.11162
Betting expire seed convert SHA256: d735fea9295dcf7fedb3490056e88d0271a2fe1c673b3a9d6d9dcc9becd8b959
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binGaMerZZ
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January 25, 2016, 07:37:33 AM |
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i notice that you finally declare the final rules on refund request.
according to you that the kind of errors like mine was fixed 4 months ago and you also said that every reasonable request were refunded, i agree with that, as you can read read here that almost everyone got their refunds even on bets more than 6 mo. ago.
what if there will be someone that will request a refund , that the bet error happen within that 4 months ago that you declared system was already fixed?
lets say a bet with error that happen 3 months ago, this would create another conflict coz this contradicts your word about 4 months ago , system having normal performance but didnt met your deadline of such request should be filled in this thread before 2 months.
anyway kindly process the refund of my request to finalized everything
if im am being paid, you can now totally announce that official rules and that will be followed.
im thanking you in advance for wide range of understanding you posses.
keep doing that good work admin and you will always be blessed..
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secondstrade.com (OP)
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January 25, 2016, 08:06:00 AM
Last edit: January 25, 2016, 08:23:01 AM by secondstrade.com |
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KINDLY INCLUDE MY ERRORS BEFORE THE FINAL IMPLEMENTATION OF REFUND RULES
this do have a perfect time was taken, game was started at 17:32:14 and ended at 17:32:19.
this shows how easy if the mili of seconds were eliminated from being used in converting
value using sha256 gen.
this could be a very normal bet and would have been paid out 0.66 bitcoin until something
strange and seems unexplainable to me on what ive discovered. the system displayed the ''Betting expire price'' value of ''0'' that will make this bet soon to be included in the list for those errors that were paid as a refund.
and that leads me to a suggestion of how about if bet like this will still have to receive desired payout and for what reasons?
1. the whole bet process will have its completion right after it has a official expiry time that will be use to have first digit value using sha 256 gen, in that way, the game of a certain bet is over before your system will post what was the first digit generated, posting this bet will just to show to the players what was the result of that game and during this process, official game was already over. if the system picked a wrong value which we normally dont know how, this has no relation affecting results for the entire betting process and purely for viewers comprehension only.
these mistakes should deserve a whole payout amount if there's nothing wrong with the values used to be feed in sha 256 generator.
on the other way, this was just a suggedtion and you have the full authority on who will have to be settled and whos not. refunds, payout etc. were at your own disposal.
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kindly refund me on this bet, (wrong picked of first digit) error. (colored red)
0.3 btc
Betting Transaction id : f54df92941ffb4e17b24b2d97800a559debcd7a41f99328df1279d1367646b71
Betting address : 1TnCcpg5hYYV5sxENbar3vMepoXrDKptK
Betting asset : SECONDS5 UP
Betting BTC : 0.3
Betting price : 2
Betting expire price : 0
Betting start seed : 17:32:14+224.79+9+1.11162
Betting start seed convert SHA256: 26636cc4a181e2db01423a841f0ef8dd5efbb86bdc6ae80714996768c8a64ce7
Betting expire seed : 17:32:19+224.81+8+1.11162
Betting expire seed convert SHA256: d735fea9295dcf7fedb3490056e88d0271a2fe1c673b3a9d6d9dcc9becd8b959
the Received Time of this transaction was 2015-06-06 17:31:12so we will not check whether there are your win case with the same problem. please refer to rule number 4 of the our refund policy on http://secondstrade.com/notice.htmlthank you. |
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secondstrade.com (OP)
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January 25, 2016, 08:08:58 AM |
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i notice that you finally declare the final rules on refund request.
according to you that the kind of errors like mine was fixed 4 months ago and you also said that every reasonable request were refunded, i agree with that, as you can read read here that almost everyone got their refunds even on bets more than 6 mo. ago.
what if there will be someone that will request a refund , that the bet error happen within that 4 months ago that you declared system was already fixed?
lets say a bet with error that happen 3 months ago, this would create another conflict coz this contradicts your word about 4 months ago , system having normal performance but didnt met your deadline of such request should be filled in this thread before 2 months.
anyway kindly process the refund of my request to finalized everything
if im am being paid, you can now totally announce that official rules and that will be followed.
im thanking you in advance for wide range of understanding you posses.
keep doing that good work admin and you will always be blessed..
your transaction will be the last case we will check with the same problem . we are checking now. |
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secondstrade.com (OP)
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January 25, 2016, 08:10:43 AM |
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My friend want his money please refund! Im going to wait now.
he lost the game. it can not be refunded. thank you. |
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secondstrade.com (OP)
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January 25, 2016, 08:44:01 AM |
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hi? everyone? secondstrade.com are giving the highest reward of binary option sites. many of people that ever use even one time our site found out the fact. the reason of can give the highest reward. 1. we do not pay many advertisement cost. 2. System maintenance cost is very low. 3. we do not pay salary, because of running the site by ourselves. These very low cost make can give you the highest reward of binary option sites. if you try to trade binary options or dice game, the secondstrade.com will be the best choice. because it gives the highest reward. thank you . |
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TurkoChupa
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January 25, 2016, 09:02:39 AM |
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KINDLY INCLUDE MY ERRORS BEFORE THE FINAL IMPLEMENTATION OF REFUND RULES
this do have a perfect time was taken, game was started at 17:32:14 and ended at 17:32:19.
this shows how easy if the mili of seconds were eliminated from being used in converting
value using sha256 gen.
this could be a very normal bet and would have been paid out 0.66 bitcoin until something
strange and seems unexplainable to me on what ive discovered. the system displayed the ''Betting expire price'' value of ''0'' that will make this bet soon to be included in the list for those errors that were paid as a refund.
and that leads me to a suggestion of how about if bet like this will still have to receive desired payout and for what reasons?
1. the whole bet process will have its completion right after it has a official expiry time that will be use to have first digit value using sha 256 gen, in that way, the game of a certain bet is over before your system will post what was the first digit generated, posting this bet will just to show to the players what was the result of that game and during this process, official game was already over. if the system picked a wrong value which we normally dont know how, this has no relation affecting results for the entire betting process and purely for viewers comprehension only.
these mistakes should deserve a whole payout amount if there's nothing wrong with the values used to be feed in sha 256 generator.
on the other way, this was just a suggedtion and you have the full authority on who will have to be settled and whos not. refunds, payout etc. were at your own disposal.
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kindly refund me on this bet, (wrong picked of first digit) error. (colored red)
0.3 btc
Betting Transaction id : f54df92941ffb4e17b24b2d97800a559debcd7a41f99328df1279d1367646b71
Betting address : 1TnCcpg5hYYV5sxENbar3vMepoXrDKptK
Betting asset : SECONDS5 UP
Betting BTC : 0.3
Betting price : 2
Betting expire price : 0
Betting start seed : 17:32:14+224.79+9+1.11162
Betting start seed convert SHA256: 26636cc4a181e2db01423a841f0ef8dd5efbb86bdc6ae80714996768c8a64ce7
Betting expire seed : 17:32:19+224.81+8+1.11162
Betting expire seed convert SHA256: d735fea9295dcf7fedb3490056e88d0271a2fe1c673b3a9d6d9dcc9becd8b959
the Received Time of this transaction was 2015-06-06 17:31:12so we will not check whether there are your win case with the same problem. please refer to rule number 4 of the our refund policy on http://secondstrade.com/notice.htmlthank you. I saw this problem in scrollback chat before you made rule changes. |
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argul1984
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January 25, 2016, 10:22:15 AM |
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KINDLY INCLUDE MY ERRORS BEFORE THE FINAL IMPLEMENTATION OF REFUND RULES
this do have a perfect time was taken, game was started at 17:32:14 and ended at 17:32:19.
this shows how easy if the mili of seconds were eliminated from being used in converting
value using sha256 gen.
this could be a very normal bet and would have been paid out 0.66 bitcoin until something
strange and seems unexplainable to me on what ive discovered. the system displayed the ''Betting expire price'' value of ''0'' that will make this bet soon to be included in the list for those errors that were paid as a refund.
and that leads me to a suggestion of how about if bet like this will still have to receive desired payout and for what reasons?
1. the whole bet process will have its completion right after it has a official expiry time that will be use to have first digit value using sha 256 gen, in that way, the game of a certain bet is over before your system will post what was the first digit generated, posting this bet will just to show to the players what was the result of that game and during this process, official game was already over. if the system picked a wrong value which we normally dont know how, this has no relation affecting results for the entire betting process and purely for viewers comprehension only.
these mistakes should deserve a whole payout amount if there's nothing wrong with the values used to be feed in sha 256 generator.
on the other way, this was just a suggedtion and you have the full authority on who will have to be settled and whos not. refunds, payout etc. were at your own disposal.
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kindly refund me on this bet, (wrong picked of first digit) error. (colored red)
0.3 btc
Betting Transaction id : f54df92941ffb4e17b24b2d97800a559debcd7a41f99328df1279d1367646b71
Betting address : 1TnCcpg5hYYV5sxENbar3vMepoXrDKptK
Betting asset : SECONDS5 UP
Betting BTC : 0.3
Betting price : 2
Betting expire price : 0
Betting start seed : 17:32:14+224.79+9+1.11162
Betting start seed convert SHA256: 26636cc4a181e2db01423a841f0ef8dd5efbb86bdc6ae80714996768c8a64ce7
Betting expire seed : 17:32:19+224.81+8+1.11162
Betting expire seed convert SHA256: d735fea9295dcf7fedb3490056e88d0271a2fe1c673b3a9d6d9dcc9becd8b959
the Received Time of this transaction was 2015-06-06 17:31:12so we will not check whether there are your win case with the same problem. please refer to rule number 4 of the our refund policy on http://secondstrade.com/notice.htmlthank you. I saw this problem in scrollback chat before you made rule changes. let me inform everybody and admin himself that i wasent here to argue when the error occurs, what im here for is to ask kindly the admin to include this to the recent refunds that is just happening. giving me the refund of that will show how sorry you are that you got mistake on keeping the money safe at your hand. without due respect, to you admin, on the moment i send you the bet using my personal bitcoin, you on the other hand should handle that bitcoin with the whole responsibility of keeping it safe with our trusts. you failed to hold on to this resposibility first and foremost. to restore the trusts i was once been offered, i beg you to let have my own bitcoin. im having full Confidence that you will accept what i humbly ask. i been reading the posts on this thread and never see any signs of scam, refunding everyone, and a chat manners of a Professional. didnt even raise a single voice in words. perhaps you handdle everything calmly. we are in the world of anonymity being gentlemen. all i can do is wait for you to excuse me and have refund in full. thanks. |
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January 25, 2016, 05:58:43 PM |
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Yes admin I know he lost but he used incompatible wallet. He didnt see notice. Please refund him this once and he wont bother about this error again. He doesnt make much money in his job so he need it back badly. We can wait for it.
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January 25, 2016, 07:23:10 PM
Last edit: January 25, 2016, 07:35:40 PM by nmaqba |
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Please check this transaction
6f59af64d671f666d965920db79b16dfde56b0e70951e2546b3f3d52412f4436
It doesnt show in your transaction log. How do I know if it is win or loss.
I get this message
Not found [6f59af64d671f666d965920db79b16dfde56b0e70951e2546b3f3d52412f4436] Transactions
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January 25, 2016, 10:51:20 PM
Last edit: January 26, 2016, 09:03:02 AM by Glucose |
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Payement for the SIG campaign seems late. Can you keep us updated OP ?
EDIT : OP has paid everyone. Thx for the campaign :-)
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secondstrade.com (OP)
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January 25, 2016, 11:32:32 PM |
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Payement for the SIG campaign seems late. Can you keep us updated OP ?
we will pay it soon. sorry for inconvenience. |
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secondstrade.com (OP)
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January 26, 2016, 12:18:04 AM |
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Yes admin I know he lost but he used incompatible wallet. He didnt see notice. Please refund him this once and he wont bother about this error again. He doesnt make much money in his job so he need it back badly. We can wait for it.
Incompatible wallet does not relate to the result of the bet. it just relate to way to receive the payout when you win. if you use incompatible wallet, in case of your win, you can not receive your wallet directly. so we have noticed about that. but, you lost. so it does have not any relation to the incompatible wallet. please check it on the http://secondstrade.com/notice.htmlImportant Notice 1. Use only wallet that can receive bitcoin to the same address that sent the bitcoin. If you’re not sure, test by sending a bet with the minimum amount(0.0005 BTC), if you get nothing back, your wallet is not compatible . If you use a exchange or shared wallet, you will not receive the payout to your address as you do not have control of this address. especially, you have not to use coinbase wallet. We recommend bitcoinQT, multibit, Amory, electrum as non-shared wallet. thank you. |
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January 26, 2016, 12:48:39 AM |
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But this site must be a scam. People should be careful over here you should refund ! It cause his bet to show up later than five minutes. He probably could have won if it sent fast. Can you at least refund part of his bet.
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