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October 07, 2016, 08:19:58 AM |
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This transactions have about 100 confirms. What is the trouble? because transaction fee of your bet was 0.00005 BTC. if transaction fee is small, it can not be bet. you can check about this on the http://secondstrade.com/notice.htmlthank you . so how about delay times? the time you received bitcoin on your wallet compare with the time was showed on your site is different, 15 seconds or more, and this problem has appeared in this week when your site have problem about forex data quotes. so you can not told us that this is problem of blockchain.info because I have usedthis wallet over 2 years, and this problem just appeared this week. I dont ask refund, I ask about this problem.
I make sure it is not problem of blockchain.info, we think that the reason is blockchain' problem. but we will find out the reason more. and we will test more. thank you. |
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Itsmylife
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October 07, 2016, 08:22:24 AM |
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This transactions have about 100 confirms. What is the trouble? because transaction fee of your bet was 0.00005 BTC. if transaction fee is small, it can not be bet. you can check about this on the http://secondstrade.com/notice.htmlthank you . so how about delay times? the time you received bitcoin on your wallet compare with the time was showed on your site is different, 15 seconds or more, and this problem has appeared in this week when your site have problem about forex data quotes. so you can not told us that this is problem of blockchain.info because I have usedthis wallet over 2 years, and this problem just appeared this week. I dont ask refund, I ask about this problem.
I make sure it is not problem of blockchain.info, we think that the reason is blockchain' problem. but we will find out the reason more. and we will test more. thank you. okay. so can you show us the problem after you test? |
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October 07, 2016, 08:33:37 AM |
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October 07, 2016, 08:34:08 AM
Last edit: October 07, 2016, 08:45:27 AM by Cryptorast |
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This transactions have about 100 confirms. What is the trouble? because transaction fee of your bet was 0.00005 BTC. if transaction fee is small, it can not be bet. you can check about this on the http://secondstrade.com/notice.htmlthank you . so how about delay times? the time you received bitcoin on your wallet compare with the time was showed on your site is different, 15 seconds or more, and this problem has appeared in this week when your site have problem about forex data quotes. so you can not told us that this is problem of blockchain.info because I have usedthis wallet over 2 years, and this problem just appeared this week. I dont ask refund, I ask about this problem.
I make sure it is not problem of blockchain.info, we think that the reason is blockchain' problem. but we will find out the reason more. and we will test more. thank you. I use bitcoin core for bets and I have the same problems from Wednesday. Even with 0.0002 BTC fee. What you say is bull shit.This bet was with 18 seconds delay. Fee was 0.00015. http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=9642bd67e3c8296f7903f189f9d11e0cae9caebff8fb6e7de74cdc533707ceac |
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October 07, 2016, 08:35:59 AM
Last edit: October 07, 2016, 08:52:28 AM by secondstrade.com |
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Itsmylife
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October 07, 2016, 08:46:07 AM |
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This transactions have about 100 confirms. What is the trouble? because transaction fee of your bet was 0.00005 BTC. if transaction fee is small, it can not be bet. you can check about this on the http://secondstrade.com/notice.htmlthank you . so how about delay times? the time you received bitcoin on your wallet compare with the time was showed on your site is different, 15 seconds or more, and this problem has appeared in this week when your site have problem about forex data quotes. so you can not told us that this is problem of blockchain.info because I have usedthis wallet over 2 years, and this problem just appeared this week. I dont ask refund, I ask about this problem.
I make sure it is not problem of blockchain.info, we think that the reason is blockchain' problem. but we will find out the reason more. and we will test more. thank you. I use bitcoin core for bets and I have the same problems from Wednesday. Even with 0.0002 BTC fee. What you say is bull shit.This bet was with 18 seconds delay. Fee was 0.00015. http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=9642bd67e3c8296f7903f189f9d11e0cae9caebff8fb6e7de74cdc533707ceacso this is not problem of blockchain.info P?S: they fixed it, I sent 0.03btc bet and it was showed immediatly |
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secondstrade.com (OP)
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October 07, 2016, 08:55:58 AM |
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This transactions have about 100 confirms. What is the trouble? because transaction fee of your bet was 0.00005 BTC. if transaction fee is small, it can not be bet. you can check about this on the http://secondstrade.com/notice.htmlthank you . so how about delay times? the time you received bitcoin on your wallet compare with the time was showed on your site is different, 15 seconds or more, and this problem has appeared in this week when your site have problem about forex data quotes. so you can not told us that this is problem of blockchain.info because I have usedthis wallet over 2 years, and this problem just appeared this week. I dont ask refund, I ask about this problem.
I make sure it is not problem of blockchain.info, we think that the reason is blockchain' problem. but we will find out the reason more. and we will test more. thank you. I use bitcoin core for bets and I have the same problems from Wednesday. Even with 0.0002 BTC fee. What you say is bull shit.This bet was with 18 seconds delay. Fee was 0.00015. http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=9642bd67e3c8296f7903f189f9d11e0cae9caebff8fb6e7de74cdc533707ceacso this is not problem of blockchain.info P?S: they fixed it, I sent 0.03btc bet and it was showed immediatly yes, reason of the problem was double-spending attack . but now there is not double-spending attack. and if there will be double-spending attack, such a delay issues will not be occurred from now on. thank you. P.S our tech team found out the reason of the delay. the reason was double spending attack . but now these double spending attacks have been disappeared . we will make the defense policy for these attack. below are example of the double spending attack transaction ID's that we received. https://blockchain.info/tx/5ec5a369f83d31f608af17104a901e7337479ff510ce61dbcde533fae5ed2df5https://blockchain.info/tx/f3fc5fab3c3abf02e63f1e6f375b50d4bb8993674638d07d6e776a7ec6cb3790https://blockchain.info/tx/ee75c25961b85c648ccab570511be591bfce21e3143335f98772baaff5f94ddchttps://blockchain.info/tx/cb551c0db7f1c141e58d3200d40a339b504bc49f85dd90679dd58cb953bbc925https://blockchain.info/tx/8bed0a39afdde4fe09d3abf61173dff5e1131ca3b994ebffb568be2736eadff7https://blockchain.info/tx/e9fd6634b09f8bdaf81b1c8a2d400bc8fd4ffb0c136a33606b51d7c0e9cf0471https://blockchain.info/tx/9387217e7154dbafdec4c220e15904a82dee1ba61fda1fbfee4fb3a54920bc0bhttps://blockchain.info/tx/9491cb5a65dba6c6caacf80458af112b2cb7147dc43c8148e8ae71ab53bd0577https://blockchain.info/tx/5a10c355fd41cf74e4340916792977c95a02a7dbdc148cfccec1babea2cf4346https://blockchain.info/tx/190652f1a931b50ae1d7d833f4636f1eb91687ead3ef78c2b99039a5a7dfdef1https://blockchain.info/tx/b18babc1c825dfbcf43073281b779f1fc1cc2bdf02ade7b2f260257fc1232456https://blockchain.info/tx/747d737fda759557021f9d7c01196d905516e1297dd404870e1be388f12adce2https://blockchain.info/tx/ee22e16dbfc2dc05cab7674e44fe38738bbed1cccfa060ac39d35f8b9ebf8acchttps://blockchain.info/tx/d9e5ce647c74e1ae1db2ac87f6dabd31b8b40d8153d4817f5adc6212806ef119thank you. |
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secondstrade.com (OP)
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October 07, 2016, 09:01:00 AM |
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it is not a refund case. it was bet. |
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Itsmylife
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October 07, 2016, 09:02:26 AM |
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all my bets are only have one transaction , and all was confirmed after few minutes |
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Cryptorast
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October 07, 2016, 09:02:51 AM |
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it is not a refund case. it was bet. It was a bet with 18 seconds delay and I lose. |
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Itsmylife
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October 07, 2016, 09:04:55 AM |
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It was a bet with 18 seconds delay and I lose.
I think they will not say that is their error system, just cause they must refund a lot if they admit it |
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Cryptorast
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October 07, 2016, 09:14:55 AM |
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It was a bet with 18 seconds delay and I lose.
I think they will not say that is their error system, just cause they must refund a lot if they admit it They never admit their faults. |
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October 07, 2016, 09:15:29 AM
Last edit: October 07, 2016, 09:29:00 AM by secondstrade.com |
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we have raised payout rate as below from now on.
1~4min: 175%,
5~29min: 185%,
30~1440min: 190%
and, max bet amount have also raised from 0.4 btc to 0.5 btc
thank you.
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October 07, 2016, 09:40:21 AM |
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I agree with you completely. The problem is that they at secondstrade.com don"t want to admit it because it might have been their operational system error or malfunction and due to that they need to compensate a lot to the users that lost their trades. As concerns blockchain.info wallet I must say it"s a very respectable online bitcoin wallet and I see no reason to change it. I"ve been using this wallet for several years already and did not encounter any problems with it during all this time.
The real problem is that they at secondstrade.com have started to accept the trades with huge delays (up to 20 or even more seconds) since yesterday (this never happened before) and they try to avoid responsibility for doing that by means of denying any refund requests from users, that lost their trades due to the acceptance of the trade by secondstrade.com.
If the bet was received for example at 08:40:45 to their adress there is no way it is accepted by them 10 or 20 seconds later. Such transactions are 99.9 % will be lost by traders because of the market price volatility. In other words, the CFD market will never wait until the bet is accepted. It is continuously changing, every single second here counts.
So, to be absolutely fair with the users, that lost their trades due to this reason, secondstrade.com must compensate them their lost trades.
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Cryptorast
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October 07, 2016, 10:14:15 AM |
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 Fix this. |
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October 07, 2016, 03:32:54 PM |
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October 07, 2016, 03:33:55 PM |
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★ NOTE
Min bet is 0.0005, max bet is 1 btc - bitcoin under 0.0005 will be belonged to us,
and one more than 0.7 btc will be returned with six confirmation, so be careful.
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★ BTC/USD, LTC/USD, LTC/BTC EQUATION
Below is a BTC/USD equation.
The used price : (bid + ask + last price )/ 3
Remember the order of operations and that this formula may change based on the USD/CNY exchange rate which is currently 6.48654777 BTC/USD: average of huobi, okcoin, btcchina, bitstamp.
(huobi/6.48654777+ okcoin/6.48654777 + btcchina/6.48654777 + bitstamp*0.3) / 3.3
LTC/USD: average of btcchina,huobi,okcoin
(btcchina/6.48654777 +huobi/6.48654777 +okcoin)/3
btcchina,huobi are chinese exchanges, so divide the last price by 6.48654777 to get the equivalent rate in USD
LTC/BTC : LTC/USD divided by BTC/USD ( LTC/USD and BTC/USD are prices of our site)
★ How to decide the reward for BTC/USD, LTC/USD, LTC/BTC(from November 27, 2014)
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If you compare our data with data of http://www.cmegroup.com/market-data/delayed-quotes/metals.html
, you will know the data is equal.
CME group is the biggest Future Exchange of in the world.
The prices are future value and same in the everywhere.
★ FOREX DATA
Forex data are get from FXCM or GAIN and use ask price of bid and ask.
As you know, Forex data that have bid and ask can be different depending on spread of each company that supply quotes.
you can compare the data on http://www.dailyfx.com/forex_rates
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