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Author Topic: FUUCK ME **** ★No.1 BITCOIN BINARY OPTIONS ★HIGHEST REWARD 190%★1%  (Read 203223 times)
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October 20, 2015, 05:23:56 AM
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i don't understand what you are asking.
but both  transactions were lose.
http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=f380e6a54412d632a6daa68aa8926fc119a205ec062beaf539ac2c94ad35191a
http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=9a5013fae875d7f2ccf6949dcdb0ac95489ac6e2fd2d717a511725fabfefd0a4
thank you.

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October 20, 2015, 06:29:07 AM
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My bet was 0.04 + 0.1, but I loss 0.31 (~0.17 BTC more).
Can you check my wallet?

I not recived this too
http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=2d58f17a3b30642440d4f14a00c83ea4cf6b5c2f33f365b31d5e4a617385dd1b

Very dangerous to recieve a reward from your site, the reward can vanish in any time.
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October 20, 2015, 07:24:40 AM
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My bet was 0.04 + 0.1, but I loss 0.31 (~0.17 BTC more).
Can you check my wallet?

I not recived this too
http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=2d58f17a3b30642440d4f14a00c83ea4cf6b5c2f33f365b31d5e4a617385dd1b

Very dangerous to recieve a reward from your site, the reward can vanish in any time.

the  transaction was paid .  the txid is https://blockchain.info/tx/da07d50d1d09c21ad7a5be617d146977685e74d1da24a422cf2523fe56096cd3 .
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October 20, 2015, 07:47:39 AM
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My bet was 0.04 + 0.1, but I loss 0.31 (~0.17 BTC more).
Can you check my wallet?

I not recived this too
http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=2d58f17a3b30642440d4f14a00c83ea4cf6b5c2f33f365b31d5e4a617385dd1b

Very dangerous to recieve a reward from your site, the reward can vanish in any time.

As far as I know, Bitcoin is irreversible, so once the reward reached your wallet, sender can't get it anymore.
It's only you who can send it back to the sender, unless the security of your wallet has been compromised.
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October 20, 2015, 08:24:41 AM
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My bet was 0.04 + 0.1, but I loss 0.31 (~0.17 BTC more).
Can you check my wallet?

I not recived this too
http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=2d58f17a3b30642440d4f14a00c83ea4cf6b5c2f33f365b31d5e4a617385dd1b

Very dangerous to recieve a reward from your site, the reward can vanish in any time.

the  transaction was paid .  the txid is https://blockchain.info/tx/da07d50d1d09c21ad7a5be617d146977685e74d1da24a422cf2523fe56096cd3 .
thank you.

Can you download my wallet and check the transactions?
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October 20, 2015, 09:19:35 AM
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My bet was 0.04 + 0.1, but I loss 0.31 (~0.17 BTC more).
Can you check my wallet?

I not recived this too
http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=2d58f17a3b30642440d4f14a00c83ea4cf6b5c2f33f365b31d5e4a617385dd1b

Very dangerous to recieve a reward from your site, the reward can vanish in any time.

the  transaction was paid .  the txid is https://blockchain.info/tx/da07d50d1d09c21ad7a5be617d146977685e74d1da24a422cf2523fe56096cd3 .
thank you.

Can you download my wallet and check the transactions?
hey remove your wallet  file plz:(

https://blockchain.info/address/15Fsce1nXFVJyuLAhhyvpxr6iKW96s9Qb5

your btc is remain in your wallet

hmm i recommend reinstall bitcoin wallet



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October 20, 2015, 10:04:01 PM
Last edit: October 20, 2015, 10:55:47 PM by aRegularNobody
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Why exactly is this a loss?

http://postimg.org/image/tgaomkwip/

http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=53f2087ee45878cbf55d25d9defe476fb98c9396f9686dba134794c9e7acacce
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October 20, 2015, 11:15:00 PM
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Read the rules on their websites

5Seconds+3
If you select "UP",  when expiry price > entry price  + 3, you will win , at this time reward will be  471%
If you select "DOWN", when expiry price <= entry price + 3, you will win , at this time reward will be  125%




Its very hard to win with the 5Seconds+3, very low odds.
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October 21, 2015, 12:17:15 AM
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Read the rules on their websites

5Seconds+3
If you select "UP",  when expiry price > entry price  + 3, you will win , at this time reward will be  471%
If you select "DOWN", when expiry price <= entry price + 3, you will win , at this time reward will be  125%




Its very hard to win with the 5Seconds+3, very low odds.

4 + 3 = 7 no?
Entry price was 4
Expiry price was 7 

Expiry price is + 3 entry price...... what am i missing here?
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October 21, 2015, 01:20:53 AM
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Read the rules on their websites

5Seconds+3
If you select "UP",  when expiry price > entry price  + 3, you will win , at this time reward will be  471%
If you select "DOWN", when expiry price <= entry price + 3, you will win , at this time reward will be  125%


Its very hard to win with the 5Seconds+3, very low odds.

If you select "UP",  when expiry price > entry price  + 3, you will win , at this time reward will be  471%

4 + 3 = 7 no?
Entry price was 4
Expiry price was 7 

Expiry price is + 3 entry price...... what am i missing here?
if you became win, the price have to be more than 7. if say again, the price must be 8 or 9.
in case of "UP", remember the symbol mark is ">" .
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October 21, 2015, 02:03:03 AM
Last edit: October 21, 2015, 02:19:39 AM by aRegularNobody
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Read the rules on their websites

5Seconds+3
If you select "UP",  when expiry price > entry price  + 3, you will win , at this time reward will be  471%
If you select "DOWN", when expiry price <= entry price + 3, you will win , at this time reward will be  125%


Its very hard to win with the 5Seconds+3, very low odds.

If you select "UP",  when expiry price > entry price  + 3, you will win , at this time reward will be  471%

4 + 3 = 7 no?
Entry price was 4
Expiry price was 7  

Expiry price is + 3 entry price...... what am i missing here?
if you became win, the price have to be more than 7. if say again, the price must be 8 or 9.
in case of "UP", remember the symbol mark is ">" .
thank you.


Edit:
If you select "UP",  when expiry price > entry price  + 3, you will win , at this time reward will be  471%

The way this is interperted is
When the Expiry price is Greater then Entry Price by 3 you win....   The wording and way its advertised is slightly misleading

Constructive Criticism.
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October 21, 2015, 06:38:18 AM
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Edit:
If you select "UP",  when expiry price > entry price  + 3, you will win , at this time reward will be  471%

The way this is interperted is
When the Expiry price is Greater then Entry Price by 3 you win....   The wording and way its advertised is slightly misleading

Constructive Criticism.


Hi mate,
It is kind of straight forward. The interpretation is incorrect lol.


this is what they stated:
5Seconds+3
If you select "UP",  when expiry price > entry price  + 3, you will win , at this time reward will be  471%

=> expiry price > entry price  + 3, you will win
=> 7 > 4 + 3
=> 7 > 7 which is FALSE.

So the bet was a lose.


Edit: Correct interpretation is:
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When the Expiry price is Greater then Entry Price by more than 3 you win....
it is because a greater than sign is used and not a greater than or equal to.
If you want the game you implied, it is 5Seconds+2.
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October 21, 2015, 01:22:28 PM
Last edit: October 21, 2015, 06:09:14 PM by Battareus
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I can't see info about bet before expire time, fix it please.
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October 21, 2015, 02:36:36 PM
Last edit: October 26, 2015, 02:43:39 PM by secondstrade.com
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hi? everyone?
we added Prediction end date and Real end date on the result board of Double dice( sort of 5Seconds, 7seconds,Odd-Even)
like on this http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=bc030a4ef776a2b80190f2d02fc77f453999acb755025aec05caac47406b8020
therefore, there are total 5 date(Start date, Prediction end date, Real end date, Betting start seed date , Betting expire seed date)

1. Start date : deposit time to our wallet(betting time).
2. Prediction end date : Start date + 5 seconds(in milliseconds unit)
    there are a batch program that handles incoming orders at a time every seconds.
    so, there  can be a time gap between Real end date and Prediction end date
3. Real end date : real execution end time by batch program.
4. there are also seed generator program that it generate seed value every seconds.
5. Betting start seed date : the time selected by start date.
    Betting expire seed date : the time selected by real end date.

I hope this is a clearer explanation for the double dice.
thank you.


  
  
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October 21, 2015, 07:36:14 PM
Last edit: October 21, 2015, 08:07:32 PM by Stroto
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Is that the reason why some of the bets show "winning" on your webpage and are "losing" when you check the tx?

nvm it is the malleability that screwed my winnings once again....

This tx:
https://tradeblock.com/bitcoin/tx/5758743e068c71919b3fb91f058bedb7b6223ecfa878bb20e05ba033667d1446

has the the date and time of this winning:



As shown here:
http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=5758743e068c71919b3fb91f058bedb7b6223ecfa878bb20e05ba033667d1446

But when it was put in the first block that was available it was changed into:

https://tradeblock.com/bitcoin/tx/78a17ba231ce3dd55759f5b4e5732bfed519b22546bc5f3b28738a0c2792db47

which is a loss of course as shown here:
http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=78a17ba231ce3dd55759f5b4e5732bfed519b22546bc5f3b28738a0c2792db47

On those tradeblock pages you can see both tx are conflicting with each other and only the losing one got confirmed, however this link http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=5758743e068c71919b3fb91f058bedb7b6223ecfa878bb20e05ba033667d1446 shows I made the transaction as displayed on site.


So for now until malleability has been solved it has no use for me to play with your site as I have no control on actually when I place the bet. And it kinda sucks when placing a bet and winning and due to outside forces getting overruled and lose.







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October 21, 2015, 11:20:48 PM
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Is that the reason why some of the bets show "winning" on your webpage and are "losing" when you check the tx?

nvm it is the malleability that screwed my winnings once again....

This tx:
https://tradeblock.com/bitcoin/tx/5758743e068c71919b3fb91f058bedb7b6223ecfa878bb20e05ba033667d1446

has the the date and time of this winning:



As shown here:
http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=5758743e068c71919b3fb91f058bedb7b6223ecfa878bb20e05ba033667d1446

But when it was put in the first block that was available it was changed into:

https://tradeblock.com/bitcoin/tx/78a17ba231ce3dd55759f5b4e5732bfed519b22546bc5f3b28738a0c2792db47

which is a loss of course as shown here:
http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=78a17ba231ce3dd55759f5b4e5732bfed519b22546bc5f3b28738a0c2792db47

On those tradeblock pages you can see both tx are conflicting with each other and only the losing one got confirmed, however this link http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=5758743e068c71919b3fb91f058bedb7b6223ecfa878bb20e05ba033667d1446 shows I made the transaction as displayed on site.


So for now until malleability has been solved it has no use for me to play with your site as I have no control on actually when I place the bet. And it kinda sucks when placing a bet and winning and due to outside forces getting overruled and lose.









Yes the malleability is so bad this month that I basically took a break from betting on Binary options because it causes alot of losers.

Too bad you can't have an account on SecondsTrade so you don't have to send BTC transactions for each bet.
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October 22, 2015, 01:18:17 AM
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Is that the reason why some of the bets show "winning" on your webpage and are "losing" when you check the tx?

nvm it is the malleability that screwed my winnings once again....

This tx:
https://tradeblock.com/bitcoin/tx/5758743e068c71919b3fb91f058bedb7b6223ecfa878bb20e05ba033667d1446

has the the date and time of this winning:



As shown here:
http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=5758743e068c71919b3fb91f058bedb7b6223ecfa878bb20e05ba033667d1446

But when it was put in the first block that was available it was changed into:

https://tradeblock.com/bitcoin/tx/78a17ba231ce3dd55759f5b4e5732bfed519b22546bc5f3b28738a0c2792db47

which is a loss of course as shown here:
http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=78a17ba231ce3dd55759f5b4e5732bfed519b22546bc5f3b28738a0c2792db47

On those tradeblock pages you can see both tx are conflicting with each other and only the losing one got confirmed, however this link http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=5758743e068c71919b3fb91f058bedb7b6223ecfa878bb20e05ba033667d1446 shows I made the transaction as displayed on site.


So for now until malleability has been solved it has no use for me to play with your site as I have no control on actually when I place the bet. And it kinda sucks when placing a bet and winning and due to outside forces getting overruled and lose.









Yes the malleability is so bad this month that I basically took a break from betting on Binary options because it causes alot of losers.

Too bad you can't have an account on SecondsTrade so you don't have to send BTC transactions for each bet.

i think that you misunderstand about  malleability transaction on our site.
the malleability transaction is not a problem on our site , because payout of our site  have been paid after one confirmation.

in this case of the malleability transaction, one of both will be real transaction and the other will be fake transaction.

first, as soon as both transaction are  deposited to the our wallet, the betting will be started and the result will also be shown there.
but fake transaction does not mean win or lose, because the rake transaction will not be confirmed.
only real transaction will be become mean.

thank you.








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Yes the malleability is so bad this month that I basically took a break from betting on Binary options because it causes alot of losers.

Too bad you can't have an account on SecondsTrade so you don't have to send BTC transactions for each bet.

i think that you misunderstand about  malleability transaction on our site.
the malleability transaction is not a problem on our site , because payout of our site  have been paid after one confirmation.

in this case of the malleability transaction, one of both will be real transaction and the other will be fake transaction.

first, as soon as both transaction are  deposited to the our wallet, the betting will be started and the result will also be shown there.
but fake transaction does not mean win or lose, because the rake transaction will not be confirmed.
only real transaction will be become mean.

thank you.




I understand it is not caused by your site nor do I claim it is.
How your site works is pretty clear and straightforward.

It just sucks that the only variable we as players can have influence on "the timing" is taken away by this outside issue.... the malleability.
If like in my example I want to bet on a 5 seconds game I want it logically to start when I broadcast the tx.

It works both ways I know that a "lost" bet can be a "winner" due to malleability too. The unconfirmed tx is the fake one and the confirmed one is the real one. But as a player/better of timing games you will always see your intended tx on the intended time as the real one.

It is not something you or I can change but that extra variable makes it hard to place bets based on timing that's all. And when you place a bet and you see a great win (x3.53 in this case) and you wait for half an hour on confirmation only to discover after that the tx changed it just sucks.

I'll be back when the malleability doesn't change so many transactions   Wink
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Yes the malleability is so bad this month that I basically took a break from betting on Binary options because it causes alot of losers.

Too bad you can't have an account on SecondsTrade so you don't have to send BTC transactions for each bet.

i think that you misunderstand about  malleability transaction on our site.
the malleability transaction is not a problem on our site , because payout of our site  have been paid after one confirmation.

in this case of the malleability transaction, one of both will be real transaction and the other will be fake transaction.

first, as soon as both transaction are  deposited to the our wallet, the betting will be started and the result will also be shown there.
but fake transaction does not mean win or lose, because the rake transaction will not be confirmed.
only real transaction will be become mean.

thank you.




I understand it is not caused by your site nor do I claim it is.
How your site works is pretty clear and straightforward.

It just sucks that the only variable we as players can have influence on "the timing" is taken away by this outside issue.... the malleability.
If like in my example I want to bet on a 5 seconds game I want it logically to start when I broadcast the tx.

It works both ways I know that a "lost" bet can be a "winner" due to malleability too. The unconfirmed tx is the fake one and the confirmed one is the real one. But as a player/better of timing games you will always see your intended tx on the intended time as the real one.

It is not something you or I can change but that extra variable makes it hard to place bets based on timing that's all. And when you place a bet and you see a great win (x3.53 in this case) and you wait for half an hour on confirmation only to discover after that the tx changed it just sucks.

I'll be back when the malleability doesn't change so many transactions   Wink

ok, i understand your mind. the are so many malleability transactions these days. i hope you back to us soon.
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1.5 btc 6.6x 3 winning streak. total 30 BTC win



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