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October 09, 2014, 08:04:14 PM
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It said "last login today" because I logged in to view your message when you went on reddit to call me a scammer.

maybe I wrote it unclear, I checked before, and at those times it said that you logged in that day, which was written as "logged in today"
that is what I meant to say





Since then I have not been on the forums in a week, you can see my post history.

I wil believe only if admin says you did not log in
but, you have hat that money long before, and the address to send



You do have my phone number, and my address, thats how you mailed me packages.

I don't need your phone to send you packages
why are yo imputing that all the time ?


And I am not rude. I sent you over 150 BTC already and have not sold all the coins.


that is why I asked for the payment after I saw in the thread they were sold



Because I asked you to EMAIL ME like 5 times and you haven't done it and ignored me.


I am saying here, send to same address as the previous payments, as I said in pm here.
Why is it important to send message to your email ?
I sent it here in pm, what i sthe problem with that ?
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October 09, 2014, 08:06:46 PM
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Thats going to be interesting.
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October 09, 2014, 08:34:54 PM
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the story continues,
I guess he logged out

first he made insinuations that he could sue me for ruining his reputation,
but he is not in hurry to finish this fast ?

he told me to send address to his gmail,
why not copy paste it while he was here ?
what kind of game is it ?

I sent the address to his gmail...
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October 09, 2014, 09:00:43 PM
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the story continues,
I guess he logged out

first he made insinuations that he could sue me for ruining his reputation,
but he is not in hurry to finish this fast ?

he told me to send address to his gmail,
why not copy paste it while he was here ?
what kind of game is it ?

I sent the address to his gmail...

I got your email, we will continue to discuss this there, not here. 

I have not insulted you. You made the drastic step of accusing me as a scammer on the forums so I am going to continue this conversation privately with you.

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October 09, 2014, 09:21:39 PM
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the story continues,
I guess he logged out

first he made insinuations that he could sue me for ruining his reputation,
but he is not in hurry to finish this fast ?

he told me to send address to his gmail,
why not copy paste it while he was here ?
what kind of game is it ?

I sent the address to his gmail...

I got your email, we will continue to discuss this there, not here. 

I have not insulted you. You made the drastic step of accusing me as a scammer on the forums so I am going to continue this conversation privately with you.

-Charlie 

I don't want to talk, just my money and we are through...

we were not friends before this, so why would we converse now or later ?
and about what ?

you never answer my questions anyway, so why the call to "conversation" ?
lets get it over with, there is a very quick way to end this all
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October 09, 2014, 09:33:53 PM
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the story continues,
I guess he logged out

first he made insinuations that he could sue me for ruining his reputation,
but he is not in hurry to finish this fast ?

he told me to send address to his gmail,
why not copy paste it while he was here ?
what kind of game is it ?

I sent the address to his gmail...

I got your email, we will continue to discuss this there, not here. 

I have not insulted you. You made the drastic step of accusing me as a scammer on the forums so I am going to continue this conversation privately with you.

-Charlie 

I don't want to talk, just my money and we are through...

we were not friends before this, so why would we converse now or later ?
and about what ?

you never answer my questions anyway, so why the call to "conversation" ?
lets get it over with, there is a very quick way to end this all


I do answer your questions, privately. We are now speaking through email.

Thanks for responding.

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October 09, 2014, 09:41:25 PM
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I do answer your questions, privately. We are now speaking through email.

Thanks for responding.


just for the record,
you did not answer almost all of my questions

should I repeat them all in one place ?
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October 09, 2014, 09:45:15 PM
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I do answer your questions, privately. We are now speaking through email.

Thanks for responding.


just for the record,
you did not answer almost all of my questions

should I repeat them all in one place ?

Which questions?

Email them to me, I am happy to answer them.

Also, someone is trying to scam you and emailed me a fake BTC address. This is why we use email, its a little safer.

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October 09, 2014, 09:59:15 PM
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I got 10 btc from Charlie, he sent them just now

so 50 more remaining

I am going to sleep now, will be back in 10 -15 hours
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October 09, 2014, 10:02:33 PM
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who the hell is Charlie Shrem?
he's a bitcoin early adopter who has been under house arrest for some time for selling bitcoin to be used on silk road.

Im not under house arrest nor is that true. I am guilty of aiding and abetting an an unlicensed money transmitter business. 

In other words, a victimless crime.

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October 09, 2014, 10:05:17 PM
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I got 10 btc from Charlie, he sent them just now

so 50 more remaining

I am going to sleep now, will be back in 10 -15 hours

I just sent Bracek 10 BTC in good faith while we continue to resolve this. I will continue to send him funds.

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October 09, 2014, 10:52:49 PM
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Hey Bracek,

Please email me your Bitcoin address and I will take care of this. Ive never scammed anyone and dont intend to now.

You have my phone number, email, address and everything. I wish you would contact me that way instead of making "charlie shrem is a scammer thread"
@Bracek - Since you are all about being so public about things, why don't you say publicly why you did not pick up the phone and give him a call? There are many other ways to get ahold of someone other then PMing then on here and opening a scam accusation. He has said many times that you have his contact information but all your response is that you want "your" money. IMO you are being unprofessional and greedy
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October 09, 2014, 10:54:42 PM
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who the hell is Charlie Shrem?
he's a bitcoin early adopter who has been under house arrest for some time for selling bitcoin to be used on silk road.

Im not under house arrest nor is that true. I am guiltyplead guilty for aiding and abetting an an unlicensed money transmitter business. 
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October 09, 2014, 10:59:53 PM
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Hey Bracek,

Please email me your Bitcoin address and I will take care of this. Ive never scammed anyone and dont intend to now.

You have my phone number, email, address and everything. I wish you would contact me that way instead of making "charlie shrem is a scammer thread"
@Bracek - Since you are all about being so public about things, why don't you say publicly why you did not pick up the phone and give him a call? There are many other ways to get ahold of someone other then PMing then on here and opening a scam accusation. He has said many times that you have his contact information but all your response is that you want "your" money. IMO you are being unprofessional and greedy

Thanks for defending me  Grin

He is not being unprofessional and greedy, he just got scared since I did not respond to his 2 PM's within a few days. I dont blame him

Yes, he could have emailed me and he has my physical address (with a little googling my phone number as well). I don't approve of his methods at all, but thats behind us now.

The issue is being resolved anyways. All parties are cool and I've already sent him 10 BTC in good faith until its all resolved.

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October 09, 2014, 11:01:00 PM
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Hey Bracek,

Please email me your Bitcoin address and I will take care of this. Ive never scammed anyone and dont intend to now.

You have my phone number, email, address and everything. I wish you would contact me that way instead of making "charlie shrem is a scammer thread"
@Bracek - Since you are all about being so public about things, why don't you say publicly why you did not pick up the phone and give him a call? There are many other ways to get ahold of someone other then PMing then on here and opening a scam accusation. He has said many times that you have his contact information but all your response is that you want "your" money. IMO you are being unprofessional and greedy

Thanks for defending me  Grin

He is not being unprofessional and greedy, he just got scared since I did not respond to his 2 PM's within a few days. I dont blame him

Yes, he could have emailed me and he has my physical address (with a little googling my phone number as well). I don't approve of his methods at all, but thats behind us now.

The issue is being resolved anyways. All parties are cool and I've already sent him 10 BTC in good faith until its all resolved.


Not sure why people have it out for you , but you've done a lot of good for the Bitcoin community.


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It's good to see an accusation going the way it goes here. Most threads in this section are just full of rage or bitter regrets.

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October 10, 2014, 11:00:56 AM
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Hey Bracek,

Please email me your Bitcoin address and I will take care of this. Ive never scammed anyone and dont intend to now.

You have my phone number, email, address and everything. I wish you would contact me that way instead of making "charlie shrem is a scammer thread"
@Bracek - Since you are all about being so public about things, why don't you say publicly why you did not pick up the phone and give him a call? There are many other ways to get ahold of someone other then PMing then on here and opening a scam accusation. He has said many times that you have his contact information but all your response is that you want "your" money. IMO you are being unprofessional and greedy

first, what is your interest in this ?

second,
read carefully what I wrote here in this thread,
you will have enough to answer your questions yourself
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October 10, 2014, 11:23:48 AM
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I am glad we started to settle the deal finally

the question remains why "my money" was spent in the first place ?
It is a clear sign that there was no respect towards it.
and what is that action telling about intention to give it back ?

why do I have to get it in chunks ?
Who knows how long will it take,
might be just a continuation of a weird game...
time will tell

but one has to admit that there is something really unusual going on here, right ?
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October 10, 2014, 03:22:38 PM
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I am glad we started to settle the deal finally

the question remains why "my money" was spent in the first place ?
It is a clear sign that there was no respect towards it.
and what is that action telling about intention to give it back ?

why do I have to get it in chunks ?
Who knows how long will it take,
might be just a continuation of a weird game...
time will tell

but one has to admit that there is something really unusual going on here, right ?

There is nothing unusual going on here at all. I advanced you BTC before I sold all your physicals.

I sent you about 160 BTC total.

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