why do people agree to pay taxes?

[TheButterZone]

LOL, being so fixed in your beliefs that you can't consider other possibilities. Amazing.

Why consider the possibility that the government is benevolent? Who stands to benefit from that belief?

People who can't consider the mere possibility that government is bribed by corporations, a systemic quid pro quo.

[bl4kjaguar]

LOL, being so fixed in your beliefs that you can't consider other possibilities. Amazing.

Why consider the possibility that the government is benevolent? Who stands to benefit from that belief?

People who deny the mere possibility that government is being bribed by corporate interests, systemic quid pro quo.

True, but you must remember that the government itself is a private corporate interest, a private company.

Per Dun & Bradstreet: http://www.allcreatorsgifts.org/main0025.html

[twiifm]

LOL, being so fixed in your beliefs that you can't consider other possibilities. Amazing.

Why consider the possibility that the government is benevolent? Who stands to benefit from that belief?

People who deny the mere possibility that government is being bribed by corporate interests, systemic quid pro quo.

True, but you must remember that the government itself is a private corporate interest, a private company.

Per Dun & Bradstreet: http://www.allcreatorsgifts.org/main0025.html

D&B is just a database that issues a unique number.  The govt probably has a number so it can do business w private sector.  Doesnt mean the govt is is private company.

By definitnition it is government.  How is this not understandable?

[bl4kjaguar]

D&B is just a database that issues a unique number.  The govt probably has a number so it can do business w private sector.  Doesnt mean the govt is is private company.

By definitnition it is government.  How is this not understandable?

So if D&B tells you that gov is a private company, that is not good enough for you??

I am not in receipt of any proof that gov agencies are nonprofit entities. All complaints or indictments today cite "laws" which bear no enacting clause, that is to say, they lack the seal of constitutional authority.

Many recognize that the legal system today does not follow constitutional law or the common law, as it once did, but is now operating under some other law.

Read more about Our Nonconstitutional Legal System; by its own actions, that "government" that you allege to be constitutional and lawful has no more authority over me than any other private company! If you are in a rush, you can read just the last page or two of that link.

[ScreamnShout]

Not without bribery (and bribery by every other name).

<3 defending the indefensible.

Yeah, you just made this up out of thin air and decided it's "true".

LOL, denying the existence of corporate-government bribery. Enjoy your spot on my ignore list.

To say that corporations bribe the government is really crazy. The government has sufficient regulatory power as a whole to not need to be bribed as they can simply tax and regulate any corporation to give it money that it needs

[TheButterZone]

Another ignore list entry for feigning ignorance and defending the indefensible.

[Thylacine]

On the plus side - I got my tax refund already from the government. For the first time, they also gave me an itemised list to the dollar of exactly where my income tax was spent. It was illuminating.

[teukon]

To say that corporations bribe the government is really crazy. The government has sufficient regulatory power as a whole to not need to be bribed as they can simply tax and regulate any corporation to give it money that it needs

You blind yourself by considering the government only as a whole.  When considered as a large group of individuals with special relationships, the possibility of corruption becomes clear.

[NotLambchop]

^Of course governments are corrupt.  The reason governments are a thing is because the alternatives simply don't work

[teukon]

^Of course governments are corrupt.  The reason governments are a thing is because the alternatives simply don't work

A person living in 18th Century France could use the same logic: The reason monarchies are a thing is because the alternatives simply don't work.

[NotLambchop]

^Of course governments are corrupt.  The reason governments are a thing is because the alternatives simply don't work

A person living in 18th Century France could use the same logic: The reason monarchies are a thing is because the alternatives simply don't work.

What's your point?

If the entire habitable surface of your planet is controlled by governments and has been for millennia, those jackbooted thugs must be doing something right

[worle1bm]

OOPS! “Government of the United States” listed on Dun & Bradstreet as a Private Corporation.

Yeah, it is totally idiotic that this government is a for-profit entity, I agree with that!!

So, first off, your source is garbage. I can make a website poorly formatted saying anything I want. That isn't a quality source for information.

Dun and Bradstreet doesn't define an entity as a business or private business, etc. That's a legal definition, and not something Dun and Bradstreet can confer. So, even if your ridiculous source is correct, it really doesn't mean what you want it to mean.

[bl4kjaguar]

OOPS! “Government of the United States” listed on Dun & Bradstreet as a Private Corporation.

Yeah, it is totally idiotic that this government is a for-profit entity, I agree with that!!

So, first off, your source is garbage. I can make a website poorly formatted saying anything I want. That isn't a quality source for information.

Dun and Bradstreet doesn't define an entity as a business or private business, etc. That's a legal definition, and not something Dun and Bradstreet can confer. So, even if your ridiculous source is correct, it really doesn't mean what you want it to mean.

Obviously any entity listed in the business registry is a business.

So, will you admit that the gov is "doing business"?

[NotLambchop]

@bl4kjaguar:  How old are you, bro? 

[worle1bm]

OOPS! “Government of the United States” listed on Dun & Bradstreet as a Private Corporation.

Yeah, it is totally idiotic that this government is a for-profit entity, I agree with that!!

So, first off, your source is garbage. I can make a website poorly formatted saying anything I want. That isn't a quality source for information.

Dun and Bradstreet doesn't define an entity as a business or private business, etc. That's a legal definition, and not something Dun and Bradstreet can confer. So, even if your ridiculous source is correct, it really doesn't mean what you want it to mean.

Obviously any entity listed in the business registry is a business.

So, will you admit that the gov is "doing business"?

It's like you can't read

[bl4kjaguar]

It's like you can't read

1) "Business" is a common street term.
2) Any entity listed in the business registry is a business; D&B's registry is "a database of companies".
3) The government is not operating under the constitutional laws because in all indictments and complaints they point to laws that lack the constitutional seal of authority.

I have seen the gov's entries in the business registry, and it is classified as a company. A nonconstitutional government is not a government at all. I have seen no disproof of my three points above.

[TheButterZone]

OOPS! “Government of the United States” listed on Dun & Bradstreet as a Private Corporation.

Yeah, it is totally idiotic that this government is a for-profit entity, I agree with that!!

So, first off, your source is garbage. I can make a website poorly formatted saying anything I want. That isn't a quality source for information.

Dun and Bradstreet doesn't define an entity as a business or private business, etc. That's a legal definition, and not something Dun and Bradstreet can confer. So, even if your ridiculous source is correct, it really doesn't mean what you want it to mean.

Obviously any entity listed in the business registry is a business.

So, will you admit that the gov is "doing business"?

No, no, no! Businesses aren't allowed to commit naked acts of aggression with impunity against their innocent customers!

[NotLambchop]

...
Per Dun & Bradstreet: http://www.allcreatorsgifts.org/main0025.html

The link you gave is not D&B, it's a blog, in turn giving a link to manta.com.  Manta.com is an internet equivalent of the yellow pages.  Grow up.

[bl4kjaguar]

...
Per Dun & Bradstreet: http://www.allcreatorsgifts.org/main0025.html

The link you gave is not D&B, it's a blog, in turn giving a link to manta.com.  Manta.com is an internet equivalent of the yellow pages.  

Grow up.

I am sorry, but where is the proof that I am wrong about the presence of gov in the business registry?

Manta.com subscribes to four of the leading publishers of business information -- Icon, Dun & Bradstreet, Datamonitor and Snapdata.

Why do you make a presumption when you could just give us the proof?

[bl4kjaguar]

Obviously any entity listed in the business registry is a business.

So, will you admit that the gov is "doing business"?

No, no, no! Businesses aren't allowed to commit naked acts of aggression with impunity against their innocent customers!

The solution is simple: complain that you are being intimidated:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Txa0KYrxPv8&list=UU5q1yZgnjCjwv6RVt4qFwlQ