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May 20, 2012, 11:14:13 AM
Last edit: May 24, 2012, 04:17:00 AM by Chaang Noi (Goat) ช้างน้อย
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100% my fault.

I had a guy send me 400 BTC. Only the address I gave him was not my address but an address that someone used to send me bitcoin in October.

1DMLq4UF1yWn9kTC8a6fvVcMzLizuShaz  this is the address.

I assume that this was a pool that I was mining at (but that is a guess).

If anyone has any ideas I would be grateful.

10% or 40 BTC reward for information that leads to the return of the coins. Meaning if I get the coins back I pay out 40 BTC to who helped me.

Thank you.

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May 20, 2012, 11:39:10 AM
Last edit: May 20, 2012, 11:56:51 AM by ildubbioso
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Well, probably you know that already, but the IP: 60.234.254.229 seems to be located in Auckland, New Zealand http://iplocationtools.com/60.234.254.229.html  

Searching for information about the address that sent money to 1DMLq4UF1yWn9kTC8a6fvVcMzLizuShaz the name of the mining pool http://eligius.st appears. Even if there are no information about the addresses on the website.
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May 20, 2012, 12:05:37 PM
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Assuming that the owner of the address is a member here, maybe you could ask Maged if he would send out a newsletter to everybody for a small donation.

I don't think everybody will read your thread.

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May 20, 2012, 12:13:05 PM
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Any reason why you didnt just generate a new address for him to send coins to? I know this is after the fact but still 400BTC is a decent amount and applying caution would have prevented this.

ps. maybe its a wallet at exchange.bitparking.com , should check with doublec

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May 20, 2012, 12:34:22 PM
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I'm just so glad it is only 400 BTC....
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May 20, 2012, 12:44:53 PM
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The info I found are so useless?  Cheesy
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May 20, 2012, 12:47:51 PM
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Only the address I gave him was not my address but an address that someone used to send me bitcoin in October.

I looks like I sent the BTC to that address on October 23rd. I have no idea why or who it was. I will check my messages at this time.

Did you send the 1.96 BTC to that address or did you receive the 5.995 BTC (partially) from that address? Your 2 statements above seem contradicting to me.

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May 20, 2012, 01:56:43 PM
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So you don't keep track of your transactions?

It's an address you've used before, so check email, PM, IRC logs to see who sent it to you. I understand that it would be close to impossible to find out who owns a randomly created, valid address, but if you used it, it should be trivial. That's why you tag your addresses.




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May 20, 2012, 02:40:58 PM
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If a Bitcoin veteran can make this kind of mistake, something needs to be done to make the addressing foolproof.

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May 20, 2012, 02:46:23 PM
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If a Bitcoin veteran can make this kind of mistake, something needs to be done to make the addressing foolproof.

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May 20, 2012, 02:48:43 PM
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If a Bitcoin veteran can make this kind of mistake, something needs to be done to make the addressing foolproof.
Nothing needs to be done about this. It was a valid address, just an old one. I seriously don't know how someone can be so careless to lose 400 BTC this way and it wasn't even 400, that was lucky. It could have been 3000. I re-check the addresses I either send to or give someone else even if it's 1 BTC. For a 3000 BTC amount I would triple check. This sounded like he just copy pasted some random address while surfing porn meanwhile.

I'm sorry for the loss but saying that this requires changes from Bitcoin is ridiculous.

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May 20, 2012, 03:17:47 PM
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If a Bitcoin veteran can make this kind of mistake, something needs to be done to make the addressing foolproof.
Nothing needs to be done about this. It was a valid address, just an old one. I seriously don't know how someone can be so careless to lose 400 BTC this way and it wasn't even 400, that was lucky. It could have been 3000. I re-check the addresses I either send to or give someone else even if it's 1 BTC. For a 3000 BTC amount I would triple check. This sounded like he just copy pasted some random address while surfing porn meanwhile.

I'm sorry for the loss but saying that this requires changes from Bitcoin is ridiculous.
I don't mean a change in Bitcoin, just make the client a little more idiot proof. For instance, the address book and the transaction pages look very similar and could be confused if one were distracted. Maybe simply requiring a label would help this.

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May 20, 2012, 03:23:28 PM
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Here is the main problem like most issues in technology, user-error! You cant fix user-errors and trying to reduce user-error could just turn into code-errors.

If someone is doing finances and get distracted, maybe they should not being doing finances at all. That said whatever goat did/didnt do is his responsibily and he stated so himself.

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May 20, 2012, 04:12:01 PM
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Jesus...

a fool and his money soon part...

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May 20, 2012, 04:53:16 PM
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Jesus...

a fool and his money soon part...

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May 20, 2012, 05:07:37 PM
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Jesus...

a fool and his money soon part...

Not nice to kick the guy while he's already down...  Roll Eyes
That's kind of the point. If Bitcoin is like cash and this is like losing a wad of cash, who does that? It happens very rarely with fiat cash, but frequently with Bitcoin.

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May 20, 2012, 05:23:01 PM
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You must have lots of money to not care about 400 BTC you lost. Anyway, sorry for the unhelpful message, I hope you get your 360 BTC.
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May 20, 2012, 05:39:46 PM
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You must have lots of money to not care about 400 BTC you lost. Anyway, sorry for the unhelpful message, I hope you get your 360 BTC.

He clearly does care, or he wouldn't have posted this.

Also, sorry I don't have any information for you.

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May 20, 2012, 05:59:38 PM
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Jesus...

a fool and his money soon part...

Not nice to kick the guy while he's already down...  Roll Eyes
That's kind of the point. If Bitcoin is like cash and this is like losing a wad of cash, who does that? It happens very rarely with fiat cash, but frequently with Bitcoin.

I think they are both pretty rare (by which I mean people lose cash 1000000x more often that bitcoins). If there is some loss-per-use-imbalance against Bitcoin it's because people have had way less time and practice with it.

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May 20, 2012, 06:18:57 PM
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