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								|  | August 09, 2017, 07:16:41 AM |  | 
 
 The best optimizer in the world playing dumb   I dont know, you tell, how can it?My work is in all of your kernels, but the credit is not there. Epsylon copied my work from my fork, and then you fork him. Now I fork you.  My fork can mine Signatum, yours cannot.No your public fork does not mine signatum. Any tuning you've done on any kernels i used has the appropriate credits on the header, sometimes even when i had to clean your work to tune it better like the cuda_quark_skein hashfunction. I dont see you forking my work on github, like others did and i have absolutely no problem with them. I see you selling my fork |  
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								|  | August 09, 2017, 07:24:03 AM |  | 
 
 the new drivers for nividia are bad for the 1080ti, my results are worse now, below 15MH with the same settings as before
 For spreadcoin I have released version 13 repack with more speed on the latest driver. Did you get it?i did not test it yet, but did you fixed the heavy cpu load on version 13? |  
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								|  | August 09, 2017, 07:32:38 AM |  | 
 
 And why didn't you do it yourself?
 I stopped open-sourcing because (...)I am not talking about opensourcing. I am talking about distributing of private binaries with new algos and more speed that you have made youself. If you do that, people might want to donate to you if they get a boost in their mining revenue. |  
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								|  | August 09, 2017, 07:33:29 AM |  | 
 
 And why didn't you do it yourself?
 I stopped open-sourcing because (...)I am not talking about opensourcing. I am talking about distributing of private binaries with new algos and more speed that you have made youself. If you do that, people might want to donate to you if they get a boost in their mining income.That would be in violation of GPL license, otherwise by showing/sending the source that would make it worthless. You know that, you do it for years. Anyway, we have different perception of this so called community project... But you still sell GPL licensed code, without providing sources |  
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								|  | August 09, 2017, 07:49:10 AM |  | 
 
 everyone here knows SP is a complete and utter thief with no morals and hides behind his shitting donation setup because he knows all his hard work is mostly stolen and others will release better stuff or have a released better stuff already.  His method gives you no guarantee that if you use it you will make back what you paid for.  A 2% dev fee in most miners is super fair.  You pay what you use.  If the coin flops you stop mining and the Dev gets only as much as the miner mined.
 Everyone here is just as greedy as SP and they are all happy to pay for it.  Fortunately you can find better free releases that have nothing to do with SP if you know where to look.  He obviously knows where to look because I see him stealing some of that work.
 
 I still use Alexis work and have donated to a BTC address before.
 
 WHen I see SP trying to pass off mods of miners that are actually worse than stuff that has been around for almost a year and is still better its pretty funny.  LIke his zcash miner.
 
 But I have to say he does some good work too and produces some really nice speed mods that are better than what is out there and I refuse to pay for it after seeing his methods and payment method, it's just lame,  people are saying he should get paid for his work etc etc, agree but when he is stealing other is hurts the community much more because people like ALexis and others that have created and released open source mods have to start keeping their code to themselves anyone buying his stuff is just as bad and greedy.
 
 
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								|  | August 09, 2017, 07:50:51 AM |  | 
 
 And why didn't you do it yourself?
 I stopped open-sourcing because (...)I am not talking about opensourcing. I am talking about distributing of private binaries with new algos and more speed that you have made youself. If you do that, people might want to donate to you if they get a boost in their mining income.That would be in violation of GPL license, otherwise by showing/sending the source that would make it worthless. You know that, you do it for years. Anyway, we have different perception of this so called community project... But you still sell GPL licensed code, without providing sourcesBut I am not distrubuting my private kernels. Beta version are sendt out for free to my donators for testing purposes and feedback. I don't see where this break with the licensing..  Once in a while my work is stolen and put out on the internet with open links (usually packed with some nasty malware).  |  
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								|  | August 09, 2017, 07:59:35 AM |  | 
 
 But I am not distrubuting my private kernels. Beta version are sendt out to my donators for testing purposes and feedback. I don't see where this break with the licensing.. 
 A 3 year old "beta testing"   And the only thing that saw the light on your open-source fork last 1 year are: my fixes on skein an empty lbry scanhash function an updated fugue from klausT an updated neoscrypt kernel from DJM ok, keep up the good work    |  
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								|  | August 09, 2017, 08:05:43 AM |  | 
 
 The point is that I am not violating any GPL licence. Your Git has also been empty for almost a year. I am still active in the ccminer development, and you are not.
 
 Why do you bitch in my thread?
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								|  | August 09, 2017, 08:08:01 AM |  | 
 
 The point is that I am not violating any GPL licence. Your Git has also been empty for almost a year. I am still active in the ccminer development, and you are not.
 
 You are because you dont provide sources when asked. Please show us your lbrymodsp6 and sigt You are not active, nothing of the above points to active. Just copy pastes for a year |  
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								|  | August 09, 2017, 08:44:04 AM |  | 
 
 guys, chill out.if you cannot afford the 0.05 btc then gtfo.
 why would sp_ need to waste time trying to feed the cheap trolls with data and explanations.
 
 alexis thank you very much for your work,
 from what i understand you would like to know how sp_ managed to get the miner as fast as he got.
 and you dont like that he doesnt release his updates open source.
 
 does it really matter where the base of the code came from?
 i did this i did that.
 if sp_ would only copy paste someone elses work, why is no other miner as fast?!
 i mean, there should be others with these speed ups.
 
 well what im trying to say it. everybody keep on working. stop fuc'ing around.
 
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								|  | August 09, 2017, 08:48:55 AM |  | 
 
 The point is that I am not violating any GPL licence. Your Git has also been empty for almost a year. I am still active in the ccminer development, and you are not.
 
 You are because you dont provide sources when asked. Please show us your lbrymodsp6 and sigt You are not active, nothing of the above points to active. Just copy pastes for a yearsomeone speak out loud...finally.  I respect the work of all of you, but I dont like coinceited or greedy people.  |  
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								|  | August 09, 2017, 09:02:51 AM |  | 
 
 from what i understand you would like to know how sp_ managed to get the miner as fast as he got.
 So, if i release a faster of what he got, binary, to prove that i dont  really care what he did. You think he will release the sources? I think not. The subject is the gpl violation, not what he did |  
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								|  | August 09, 2017, 09:10:01 AM |  | 
 
 I was about to release signatum #6 with 35MHASH on the gtx 1070. But the release will be delayed. The opensource is still slower than sp-mod #3 from 25 July. (2 weeks old) More than 50% of the miners use my kernels to mine signatum: http://yiimp.ccminer.org/site/miners  (click on skunk)  here is a screenshot of sp-mod #3 (25 july):  |  
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								|  | August 09, 2017, 09:11:25 AM |  | 
 
 I was about to release signatum #6 with 35MHASH on the gtx 1070. But the release will be delayed.
 will you release the obsolete (and leaked) signatum#1 to #5 though?    |  
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								|  | August 09, 2017, 09:14:22 AM |  | 
 
 Are you a donator? No.
 
 Then you will not get my latest beta binary.
 
 As for the leaked binaries (with sofisticated malware) you have to ask the people who leaked my bins. They are violating the GPL. not me
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								|  | August 09, 2017, 09:18:28 AM |  | 
 
 Hi Guys,
 How much did you get with SP skunk version on 1080 not TI ?!
 
 Thx in advance.
 
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								|  | August 09, 2017, 09:20:37 AM |  | 
 
 GTX 1080ti maxed-out at 55.47 Mh/s using skunk-krnlx mod, then goes to stable 55.40Mh/s through the time. So, sp_ have to beat this result to sell mods. No reason to buy, if not.  |  
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								|  | August 09, 2017, 09:20:52 AM |  | 
 
 As for the leaked binary you have to ask the people who leaked my bins. They are violating the GPL. not me
 Did you supply them with the source code?   |  
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								|  | August 09, 2017, 09:22:15 AM |  | 
 
 Did you supply them with the source code?  The ptx assembly is in the bin. You just need to extract. I left it wide open. |  
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								|  | August 09, 2017, 09:26:20 AM |  | 
 
 Did you supply them with the source code?  The ptx assembly is in the bin. You just need to extract. I left it wide open.yeah, i've read the GPL license and it says nothing about dumping ptx. It says that you have to provide source   |  
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