CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded GPU kernels.

[garytheasshole]

You guys are dumbasses. And he's making you more money in the process. Have you ever calculated how much Claymore is making per day? Yeah.

People will complain about anything and try to take it completely out of context. You don't like the work, don't use it. Pretty straightforward. Stick it to man by not using something they worked on!

At least Claymore is not a hack like sp_, he's not ripping off open source projects and even has his own compiler rather than using cuda/opencl.

He did.

Bro I don't think you know how programming works. 'Ripping off' is completely subjective. Everyone copies everyone elses work. If they aren't copying verbatim, they copy and swap some variables, maybe change some classes and move things around so it looks different, at the most basic level people look to see how they figure out a solution and simply rewrite it in their own work. It's like the news. Everyone copies everyone else, they just present it in a different way, with a different tone, and emphasize different things. At the end of the day it's basically the same thing (except for the rare outlet that does a little more digging). The only difference is, some people are really good at changing that presentation compared to others. The stuff SP is copying tends not to even be what earns you money either, he has GPL violations for things like stratum code. If it was JUST copying it wouldn't be any faster.

Remember the whole debacle where Claymore was accused of using someone elses work, not crediting them, GPL violations, etc? He finally admitted to it and 'rewrote it'. Rewriting isn't remaking the wheel from the ground up, it's literally changing what it looks like enough where people wont bitch about it. Once you know how things work you essentially have the 'solution' to the problem, then it's all about dressing.

There is no original artwork here after the initial release.

That's probably true, but he didn't just fork a miner on github and employed his bag of tricks to make it slightly faster, then asked for "donations", unlike the OP here. I do believe Claymore puts a lot more effort than sp so his fees are justified.

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[pallas]

You guys are dumbasses. And he's making you more money in the process.

I never used his miners.
But he's making me less money because he makes diff rise.
And people don't understand that by buying his mods they are also making less money. But let's all this continue, I honestly don't care after all this time. If people continue making the same mistakes, I don't know what to do.
In the end I always find something to mine which is more profitable than the algos he worked on.

[sp_]

Working on bitcore #5 with my 1070ti. This time I try to make it fast on 70% tdp.
I have managed to add +5% so far compared to #4

[grchina]

You guys are dumbasses. And he's making you more money in the process.

I never used his miners.
But he's making me less money because he makes diff rise.
And people don't understand that by buying his mods they are also making less money. But let's all this continue, I honestly don't care after all this time. If people continue making the same mistakes, I don't know what to do.
In the end I always find something to mine which is more profitable than the algos he worked on.

pretty much this,problem is when sp finds out about that coin says that he made a mod with 5% increase on that coin and post a screendshot where 1080ti is making 15$ a day.Then since this thread have a lot of wievs people notice that coin and diff explodes even without his "donation" mod thus lowering the profit for those who made a effort to find it early among many shitcoins

[sp_]

pretty much this,problem is when sp finds out about that coin says that he made a mod with 5% increase on that coin and post a screendshot where 1080ti is making 15$ a day.

You forget that some of the coins I mod could increase in price 50 times in the next 6 months. If you don't get an instant profit, just hold on to it, and mine when it becomes profitable again...

[grchina]

pretty much this,problem is when sp finds out about that coin says that he made a mod with 5% increase on that coin and post a screendshot where 1080ti is making 15$ a day.

You forget that some of the coins I mod could increase in price 50 times in the next 6 months. If you don't get an instant profit, just hold on to it, and mine when it becomes profitable again...

And you forget that i can mine x5 more without you saying about that coin and diff exploding,sell 4/5 of them for instant profit and still hold 1/5 just in case that coin goes 50x in 6 months.All of this just beacuse of your 5% increase

[sp_]

this just beacuse of your 5% increase

My mods are normally more than +5%.

Bitcore sp-mod #5 is around 30-35% faster than ccminer 2.2 on the new 1070ti

I am adding +5% and sending out to the donators for free.

[Dr_Victor]

this just beacuse of your 5% increase

My mods are normally more than +5%.

Bitcore sp-mod #5 is around 30-35% faster than ccminer 2.2 on the new 1070ti

I am adding +5% and sending out to the donators for free.

When?

[dark981]

anyone has leaked version of luxcoin ccminer spmod1 ?

on luxcoin discord the users try to sell it for 20 lux (~26$) so i guess it is somewhere leaked for free

[bensam1231]

You guys are dumbasses. And he's making you more money in the process. Have you ever calculated how much Claymore is making per day? Yeah.

People will complain about anything and try to take it completely out of context. You don't like the work, don't use it. Pretty straightforward. Stick it to man by not using something they worked on!

At least Claymore is not a hack like sp_, he's not ripping off open source projects and even has his own compiler rather than using cuda/opencl.

He did.

Bro I don't think you know how programming works. 'Ripping off' is completely subjective. Everyone copies everyone elses work. If they aren't copying verbatim, they copy and swap some variables, maybe change some classes and move things around so it looks different, at the most basic level people look to see how they figure out a solution and simply rewrite it in their own work. It's like the news. Everyone copies everyone else, they just present it in a different way, with a different tone, and emphasize different things. At the end of the day it's basically the same thing (except for the rare outlet that does a little more digging). The only difference is, some people are really good at changing that presentation compared to others. The stuff SP is copying tends not to even be what earns you money either, he has GPL violations for things like stratum code. If it was JUST copying it wouldn't be any faster.

Remember the whole debacle where Claymore was accused of using someone elses work, not crediting them, GPL violations, etc? He finally admitted to it and 'rewrote it'. Rewriting isn't remaking the wheel from the ground up, it's literally changing what it looks like enough where people wont bitch about it. Once you know how things work you essentially have the 'solution' to the problem, then it's all about dressing.

There is no original artwork here after the initial release.

That's probably true, but he didn't just fork a miner on github and employed his bag of tricks to make it slightly faster, then asked for "donations", unlike the OP here. I do believe Claymore puts a lot more effort than sp so his fees are justified.

I feel fees are justified when it makes me more money. Difference between the way you're thinking and the way I'm thinking, mine is based on financial gain and yours on moral high ground. I don't think you're in the right profession if you're prioritizing morals. This isn't like blood diamonds or slave trading in Somalia. There are much worse things in the world and when people do work that's worth monetary support I try and offer it, obviously to a certain extent. 2% on a miner that is 20% faster then open source is worth (talking publicly available open source, not redistributed close source).

You guys are dumbasses. And he's making you more money in the process.

I never used his miners.
But he's making me less money because he makes diff rise.
And people don't understand that by buying his mods they are also making less money. But let's all this continue, I honestly don't care after all this time. If people continue making the same mistakes, I don't know what to do.
In the end I always find something to mine which is more profitable than the algos he worked on.

If you're not using it sure and operating under the premise that everyone uses it, also sure. Same can be said about Claymore miners. In order to get to that point there has to be absolutely no competition. Even if say 70% of all bitcore hashrate is SPs miner, I'd say more then half of that is using non-paid versions.

If we end up in a scenario where open source isn't competitive, the lack of SP doesn't also mean people wont optimize and sell miners behind closed doors. Competition and constant development is what keeps miners honest. I was mining in '14 and had the fun experience of scrypt and x11 going closed source and behind closed doors, where I literally had no options. SP may not be the best programmer in the world and some might be better, but mining is a professional line of work and we need professional (IE paid and work it like a job) developers, not hobby developers.

Hell even more recent, if you remember Equihash and how things were basically a shitshow when it came out. The normal devs around here refused to work on it and the handful of devs that did (for Nvidia) did on weekends, then gave up when they got surpassed by someone else. Nvidia fell way behind the curve as Claymore was trailblazing with improvements. It wasn't until Nicehash decided to make their own miner that Nvidia mining caught up and actually became competitive with AMD (which was promptly, arguably, ripped off by EWBF). That was still two months after initial release. TWO months of amazingly good mining on a brand new algorithm with a strong coin leading it. So artificially low network difficulty and extremely stable profit.

Don't get me wrong, I do appreciate you for your work and also try to support, but occasionally releasing things, especially things that don't necessarily need work (because you are working on something fun) isn't the same as working on something that isn't necessarily fun, but is needed. SP tends to work on things that are in demand and gets monetary support because of it. I have no qualms with a situation like that. Do I wish it was open source? Sure. We don't always have luxury of stuff like that though.

this just beacuse of your 5% increase

My mods are normally more than +5%.

Bitcore sp-mod #5 is around 30-35% faster than ccminer 2.2 on the new 1070ti

I am adding +5% and sending out to the donators for free.

Are the clockrates stable though? That's all that matters at this point. If you can't stabilize the clock thrashing and everyone needs to lower the intensity, it negates the purpose of the optimizations.

[tbearhere]

I've made a new fast and profitable kernel for the cryptonight light algo. (AEON COIN)

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/aeon/

I think I will send it out for free to the monero donators.

sp  what is the hashrate on the 750ti..?

[KhunChan]

anyone has leaked version of luxcoin ccminer spmod1 ?

on luxcoin discord the users try to sell it for 20 lux (~26$) so i guess it is somewhere leaked for free

Maybe someone bought, and then the price of luxury and he fell in an attempt to recover the funds paid for the miner from sp wants to sell a couple of dozen times.

[mystere_miner]

We definitely need sp mod 5 for btx

I am working on a #5 with more stable power usage and higher hash.
But since ppl steal my work, resell and spread for free, the feecode will not be removed.
You should support the dev and mine with a fee.
If you download one of my mod from another source than mine, your pc will probobly be infected with some malware. The "free" sp-mod #2 on the net is not the same as my mod.
The speed is the same, but it seems to be packed with some malware. Virustotal is not happy.

Says the guy that steals other peoples GPL'd work, and sells it for his own profit. 

[mystere_miner]

Bro I don't think you know how programming works. 'Ripping off' is completely subjective. Everyone copies everyone elses work. If they aren't copying verbatim, they copy and swap some variables, maybe change some classes and move things around so it looks different, at the most basic level people look to see how they figure out a solution and simply rewrite it in their own work. It's like the news. Everyone copies everyone else, they just present it in a different way, with a different tone, and emphasize different things. At the end of the day it's basically the same thing (except for the rare outlet that does a little more digging). The only difference is, some people are really good at changing that presentation compared to others. The stuff SP is copying tends not to even be what earns you money either, he has GPL violations for things like stratum code. If it was JUST copying it wouldn't be any faster.

Remember the whole debacle where Claymore was accused of using someone elses work, not crediting them, GPL violations, etc? He finally admitted to it and 'rewrote it'. Rewriting isn't remaking the wheel from the ground up, it's literally changing what it looks like enough where people wont bitch about it. Once you know how things work you essentially have the 'solution' to the problem, then it's all about dressing.

There is no original artwork here after the initial release.

Yup, no idea what a false positive is, totally makes what I said untrue as well. Still want a CRC code to make sure you don't have russian trojans in your pants.

You're talking about the difference between copyright and patent.  Copyright violation is the direct copying of code.  Patent violation is the copying of ideas.

The GPL is very clear.  If you don't agree with it, then don't use any code covered by it.  Claymore eventually realized this and did just that, by rewriting the code.

The GPL is a legally enforceable license, although it typically not practical for most people to enforce, especially across borders, it's still a legally binding document.  And if you violate it, you are in fact violating the law. 

Copying ideas is not so fundamentally protected, unless it's patented, which this is not.  Therefore copying an idea is not breaking the law.

And, before you argue anything else, look at the output from sp's ccminer.  It specifically states it's based on the works of tpruvot, cbuchner, alexis78, etc.. He is admitting that is violating the GPL in his own code output.

[sp_]

I've made a new fast and profitable kernel for the cryptonight light algo. (AEON COIN)
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/aeon/
I think I will send it out for free to the monero donators.

sp  what is the hashrate on the 750ti..?

It's around 2x the speed of monero sp-mod #3. So around 600h/s on the 750ti.
But cpuminers are normally 3-4x the speed of monero, so AEON is a cpu coin.

[du44]

sp, any numbers of bitcore 1070ti's hashrate? I am ordered pair of it but can do any tests only 25th of November My expectations 25-27 mh.

[sp_]

sp, any numbers of bitcore 1070ti's hashrate? I am ordered pair of it but can do any tests only 25th of November My expectations 25-27 mh.

sp-mod #5 (unreleased) does 22.5 with 70% tdp.  But without more work #5 is slower on the gtx 1060 3gb than #4. I also think sp-mod #5 will be bether on 1080 and 1080ti. But not yet tested.

[sp_]

You just don't invest to "coins" like btx or sigt.

Sigt was just another POS scam. But bitcore (btx) is different.
Bitcore is a 1:1 replica of the bitcoin blockchain with a gpu friendly POW algo, and segwit included. Active dev team.. In my opinion bitcore should be priced higher than bitcoin gold and can go +300% or more in just a few weeks.

We all know that the seqwit fork of bitcoin was cancelled, but bitcore have had this functionallity for months already.

bitcore vs bitcoin gold

$32 vs $140




time will tell.

[lupanar]

Hey sp_, do you planning to decrease donation cost for your mods? Asking because, due to btc price goes higher and higher, its becoming more expensive for people to buy your kernels. Maybe you have a thoughts to distribute your mods for pure fee system?

[garytheasshole]

Hey sp_, do you planning to decrease donation cost for your mods? Asking because, due to btc price goes higher and higher, its becoming more expensive for people to buy your kernels. Maybe you have a thoughts to distribute your mods for pure fee system?

Just remove the fee yourself, fuck sp
https://github.com/Demion/nodevfee/ Needs a bit tinkering but it will work.