[HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM

[Hypnotique]

hey baby gnargnar i noticed your ran away and hid under you bed after i posted this and owned your ass eh ?
awww scared little baby wet himself and needs some fresh pampers.. go tell mom you made Boo Boom kid !

<gnargnar home video snipped>

Spoetnik doing his penguin impression: I love it honey boo boo

P.S. Why'd I post on this toilet paper thread again?

More like the combined intellect of every HYP bagholder  

Typical to insult Spoetnik and the thread without actually addressing any of the concerns. Where are you on the richlist again?

[Biomech]

All right, @ Spoetnik. I backed off, you didn't.

Fair game. "expose myself" eh? Not sure what you mean by that, but what the hell. Had you bothered to do minimal research, you'd have found this before, because you know, I've said it before.

I'll expose myself alright. I'm Jay Kevin Putzier. I have used the name "biomech" or "Biomech" as an online handle since 1989. That's right, prior to the advent of the public internet system. Prior to that, I used several handles over the years, the one most often associated with me was Tachyon_pulse. My identity and skillset have been out in the open for literally decades. So if you bothered to do any research, you'd know that I am not a programmer, and that the closest I've come to being a developer was a brief stint as the public face of Earthcoin. Which I did not do well as, and real life compelled me to quit.

Now, on to some specifics.

One: Not doing research at a minimal level disqualifies you as an expert witness. HoboNickels was programmed initially by several people, two of whom are known to me. I do not have their permission to reveal names. Tranz took it over later. The coin control was not created by Presstab, but it was modified him both prior to and after the launch of HYP. He has told me more than once that his mentor was Tranz, primarily.

Two. Inflationary model. Yes, the BASE minting is 750% per annum. Let's compare that to some other coins, just to see if you have an argument. But let's do it accurately. The 750% is not set in stone, because of the inflation control mechanism which caps subsidy at 1000 coins per block. This means the max is 950,000 per day, which over time is deflationary.

Now, some other coins.

HyperStake, assuming Max Subsidy, not yet achieved: 950,000
Jackpot coin. Not counting staking, for the sake of brevity. Current daily generation 5,168,865.50928
Dogecoin. Low level, totally unknown, unsuccessful coin that no one has ever heard of... 45,000,000

I could keep doing this, but I think the audience will get the point. Minting, while colloquially expressed as interest, is in fact mining. And the rate of reward is not outgrageous by comparison to a number of different coins. It's a steady rate of growth, declining over time by percentage in this case, even though it's initially quite high.

You don't trust the dev's, and you don't like the method of distribution. That's fine and dandy, but it hardly proves malfeasance by either the developers or the enthusiastic community. If this were coming from someone else, I would assume jealousy. In your case, I begin to suspect some other motive, or perhaps insanity per M'Noughton.

I need to get back to work. It's been fun, but I'm done playing with you now. I resisted the bait for over a year, and I regret not continuing to do so. Have a life.

[Hypnotique]

I'm so happy we made our ANN self-mod

I'm sure you are, David.

[bitwho]

All right, @ Spoetnik. I backed off, you didn't.

Fair game. "expose myself" eh? Not sure what you mean by that, but what the hell. Had you bothered to do minimal research, you'd have found this before, because you know, I've said it before.

I'll expose myself alright. I'm Jay Kevin Putzier. I have used the name "biomech" or "Biomech" as an online handle since 1989. That's right, prior to the advent of the public internet system. Prior to that, I used several handles over the years, the one most often associated with me was Tachyon_pulse. My identity and skillset have been out in the open for literally decades. So if you bothered to do any research, you'd know that I am not a programmer, and that the closest I've come to being a developer was a brief stint as the public face of Earthcoin. Which I did not do well as, and real life compelled me to quit.

Now, on to some specifics.

One: Not doing research at a minimal level disqualifies you as an expert witness. HoboNickels was programmed initially by several people, two of whom are known to me. I do not have their permission to reveal names. Tranz took it over later. The coin control was not created by Presstab, but it was modified him both prior to and after the launch of HYP. He has told me more than once that his mentor was Tranz, primarily.

Two. Inflationary model. Yes, the BASE minting is 750% per annum. Let's compare that to some other coins, just to see if you have an argument. But let's do it accurately. The 750% is not set in stone, because of the inflation control mechanism which caps subsidy at 1000 coins per block. This means the max is 950,000 per day, which over time is deflationary.

Now, some other coins.

HyperStake, assuming Max Subsidy, not yet achieved: 950,000
Jackpot coin. Not counting staking, for the sake of brevity. Current daily generation 5,168,865.50928
Dogecoin. Low level, totally unknown, unsuccessful coin that no one has ever heard of... 45,000,000

I could keep doing this, but I think the audience will get the point. Minting, while colloquially expressed as interest, is in fact mining. And the rate of reward is not outgrageous by comparison to a number of different coins. It's a steady rate of growth, declining over time by percentage in this case, even though it's initially quite high.

You don't trust the dev's, and you don't like the method of distribution. That's fine and dandy, but it hardly proves malfeasance by either the developers or the enthusiastic community. If this were coming from someone else, I would assume jealousy. In your case, I begin to suspect some other motive, or perhaps insanity per M'Noughton.

I need to get back to work. It's been fun, but I'm done playing with you now. I resisted the bait for over a year, and I regret not continuing to do so. Have a life.

hah...


i think you should listen to Spotnik and the rest. Cash out before you support the early adapters much more.

[Hypnotique]

Updated and tweaked the OP for clarity

[Spoetnik]

All right, @ Spoetnik. I backed off, you didn't.

Facts..

- You admitted i have made good points and that YOU "contributed" to coding for many coins. (more than one is many i think)

You never showed your face in the altcoin scene ever before.. until now in this topic ONLY ! ..rather odd isn't it ?
I brought up your possible connections to other accounts because a lot of fishyness surrounds everything you say.

please keep talking..

you are in over time doing damage control, cleaning up the mess of this "experiment" coin and the continued garbage you keep spewing.. digging a hole for yourself !

and i think your sweating because of connections to other coins that no matter how many times i have asked.. you keep hiding and playing games about.
kinda funny you have been around so long and none of us seen a word form you before AND that you made other coins and yet you refuse to name them.
and.. that you refuse to tell us what accounts you have used here.. your hiding and playing games and "contributing" to countless coins LOL
for every 10 coins these kind of guys admit to it's more like 100 they made !  

and i have given you large amounts of time to make up shit and come back and twist shit around..

me..... i have come up with my comments off the top of my head and NO i will not be "backing off".
don't like it ? .. go create an account + coin about it

Fun Fact:
Notice how Shakezulu never comes and talks no mater what ? (he lost his password ?) ohhh he retired right ? mmmmmmmmmm hhhhhhhmmmmmm  
and the huuuuuuuuuuuuge vast amount of people who have worked with Shakezulu and talked to him every day for years are 100% silent ? odd ?

Shakezulu = a million clone coins + a million identities = for years !

[nutildah]

Stop being babies, the founders of a coin want to make money, just like you, your just jelly.

They only want to rip people off. Fuck you for pretending for half a second that this was actually about "making" something.

ps: I contribute more good to society on a daily basis than the HYP devs will through the course of their entire useless lives.

[calebwalker]

Anyone reading this should choose TEK. It has 0% premine, see this link for it https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=320404.0

TEK IS CHEAP RIGHT NOW. BUY BUY BUY!!

[nutildah]

Anyone reading this should choose TEK. It has 0% premine, see this link for it https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=320404.0

TEK IS CHEAP RIGHT NOW. BUY BUY BUY!!

No they shouldn't. Anytime somebody tries to sell a coin using unsolicited advice (meaning nobody here ever asked you for your opinion), I immediately assume that person is composed entirely of garbage. I don't know how they talk or walk around, but their bones, muscle and cartilage have somehow all been replaced with rotting refuse, along with the thing that is supposed to resemble a brain.

[bitkate]

Anyone reading this should choose TEK. It has 0% premine, see this link for it https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=320404.0

TEK IS CHEAP RIGHT NOW. BUY BUY BUY!!

are u sure i have lost 50% with hyperstake..

[Biomech]

All right, @ Spoetnik. I backed off, you didn't.

Facts..

- You admitted i have made good points and that YOU "contributed" to coding for many coins. (more than one is many i think)

You never showed your face in the altcoin scene ever before.. until now in this topic ONLY ! ..rather odd isn't it ?
I brought up your possible connections to other accounts because a lot of fishyness surrounds everything you say.

please keep talking..

you are in over time doing damage control, cleaning up the mess of this "experiment" coin and the continued garbage you keep spewing.. digging a hole for yourself !

and i think your sweating because of connections to other coins that no matter how many times i have asked.. you keep hiding and playing games about.
kinda funny you have been around so long and none of us seen a word form you before AND that you made other coins and yet you refuse to name them.
and.. that you refuse to tell us what accounts you have used here.. your hiding and playing games and "contributing" to countless coins LOL
for every 10 coins these kind of guys admit to it's more like 100 they made !  

and i have given you large amounts of time to make up shit and come back and twist shit around..

me..... i have come up with my comments off the top of my head and NO i will not be "backing off".
don't like it ? .. go create an account + coin about it

Fun Fact:
Notice how Shakezulu never comes and talks no mater what ? (he lost his password ?) ohhh he retired right ? mmmmmmmmmm hhhhhhhmmmmmm  
and the huuuuuuuuuuuuge vast amount of people who have worked with Shakezulu and talked to him every day for years are 100% silent ? odd ?

Shakezulu = a million clone coins + a million identities = for years !

I have to wonder now, what drugs you're on.

I did not say I have contributed to many coins. I said I have been involved with many coins. Learn English, it's my first language and I use it properly.

I've "never shown my face in the alt coins sections before"...

Put DOWN the crack pipe. The vast majority of my 2,451 posts on this forum have been in the alt sections. The remainder have been in mining and politics. That I have refrained from interacting with YOU does not mean that I haven't been here.

What coins have I participated (traded, talked about, helped test, compiled wallets from source, bitched on, praised..) in?
Bitcoin
Litecoin
Tekcoin
Earthcoin (my only dabbling as part of a development team)
Sync
Fire
Doge
DEM
42
UNO
....and many others that I have mined or traded at some point. Long term involvement, EAC, TEK. From launch, Fork, however you wish to characterize it, HYP. Code contributions? 2 lines of code amended in the .pro file for FIRE to make it compile under ubuntu 14.04. Because I figured it out by comparing the file with another coin's .pro file. I don't know who you think I am, but if you had the ability to operate a fucking WEB BROWSER, you have my real name and therefore just about everything interesting about me. It's hardly difficult, man, basic computing skills.  The avatar to the left is my picture, about a year and a half ago. I have better glasses and have let my hair revert to it's natural color. I am who I say I am, and have no reason or desire to hide it. I'm far more arrogant than that.

Aside from an African king who stood against the british, who the fuck is shakezulu?

Again, I have NEVER claimed I was a developer, other than the PR guy for Earthcoin. Not once, in over 2,000 posts. I'm an enthusiast, an investor, often a cheerleader for the coins I like. I don't know where you pulled that rabbit out of, but frankly, I deal with crazy people enough in real life. This is my last response to you, regardless of yours. People who I like and trust say you mean well. On that word, and that alone, I have continued to interact here. But clearly, you're mind is not functioning on a normal or even sane level.

I talk a lot. I may be damned, but I won't be damned by YOUR words in MY mouth. Damn me for who I am, if you will, but I will not allow you to damn me for your hallucinations.

[Spoetnik]

I stand behind EVERYTHING i said and your behavior is suspicious no matter how you cut it.

[Hypnotique]

I had to register to ask this to everyone, and i wont return so dont start bashing me to, just think about this perspective guys...

So lets say your American, or European....whatever, just for instance, and you dont like China or North Korea, or Russia, whatever right? So you know they have a currency to, and the government in those countries, or even that of America and most of Europe, have a hell of alot more control, manipulation, and deceit around their currencies, so you know what I do? I don't trade them, I don't hodl them, and i don't help them, I don't go to FOREX markets and try and make money with them, I don't go and exchange all my fiat USD to CNY or RUR, or whatever I don't like, trust, value, whatever...


These guys developed software, websites, ideas, and spent alot of time on this project, they created it, if you don't like it, its too bad, its not yours, the coins have value that was established, and if people don't value them, they don't have to own them.

This is like you sitting there bashing EA because you can't kill as many bad guys on a game as the dude next to you who's been playing longer....the problem is on your end, not the people who are on the rich list, or on the bottom of the rich list, they own some coin, completely by their own accord.

You don't, your not losing anything, except you guys' time. It's really quite stupid. There's a billion billion other websites you could spend more productive time on then this....

Stop being babies, the founders of a coin want to make money, just like you, your just jelly.


<presstab & friends group shot snipped>
^  you guys...


Sorry had to get that in.


As you were though, cause i'm sure you guys could care less what a mature realistic look at this thread is.

hi press,er.. youngk,

Welcome, i'd be lying if i said i haven't been expecting you... 1 day after presstab announces he'll no longer participate in this thread.... you're early. It was a matter of time before "someone" felt the need to register a new account in support of the scammers. Pure coincidence, i'm sure.

Let's address your post. Forex? Video games? How is this relevant? Please re-read the OP.

I'm also not surprised you think posting naked troll pictures is an adult, mature response. Reminds me of this adult, mature response:

I WANTED HYP NOW!!!!

[Deepanal]

I had to register to ask this to everyone, and i wont return so dont start bashing me to, just think about this perspective guys...

So lets say your American, or European....whatever, just for instance, and you dont like China or North Korea, or Russia, whatever right? So you know they have a currency to, and the government in those countries, or even that of America and most of Europe, have a hell of alot more control, manipulation, and deceit around their currencies, so you know what I do? I don't trade them, I don't hodl them, and i don't help them, I don't go to FOREX markets and try and make money with them, I don't go and exchange all my fiat USD to CNY or RUR, or whatever I don't like, trust, value, whatever...


These guys developed software, websites, ideas, and spent alot of time on this project, they created it, if you don't like it, its too bad, its not yours, the coins have value that was established, and if people don't value them, they don't have to own them.

This is like you sitting there bashing EA because you can't kill as many bad guys on a game as the dude next to you who's been playing longer....the problem is on your end, not the people who are on the rich list, or on the bottom of the rich list, they own some coin, completely by their own accord.

You don't, your not losing anything, except you guys' time. It's really quite stupid. There's a billion billion other websites you could spend more productive time on then this....

Stop being babies, the founders of a coin want to make money, just like you, your just jelly.


<presstab & friends group shot snipped>
^  you guys...


Sorry had to get that in.


As you were though, cause i'm sure you guys could care less what a mature realistic look at this thread is.

hi press,er.. youngk,

Welcome, i'd be lying if i said i haven't been expecting you... 1 day after presstab announces he'll no longer participate in this thread. It was a matter of time before someone felt the need to register a new account in support of the scammers. Pure coincidence, i'm sure.

Let's address your post. Forex? Video games? How is this relevant? Please re-read the OP.

I'm also not surprised you think posting naked pictures of trolls is an adult, mature response. Reminds me a little of this adult, mature response:

I WANTED HYP NOW!!!!

It's becoming quite obvious TO EVERYONE that this has nothing to do with HYP, but rather a personal vandetta against Presstab and David. You're most likely a competetor, or close friends with the developer. Since Thundertoe chimed in, maybe you're with TEK?  In any event, you come accross as weak minded. I know all you and your alter ego Spoetnik will do is come back with F this and F U that. Whatever. You're nothing more than a FUDster.

[Hypnotique]

Deepanal, you're perfectly entitled to that opinion. If you have a problem with me or this thread my only suggestion is that you follow your leader's recommendation to stop posting here.

[Deepanal]

Deepanal, you're perfectly entitled to that opinion. If you have a problem with me or this thread my only suggestion is that you follow your leader's recommendation to stop posting here.

No...you and your friends have inspired me. I have no offiliation with anyone, but as an investor and seeing this nonsense I cant help but want to expose you and your BS to eveyone, everytime you feel the need to chime in. This includes your other accounts (friends). I think I will chime in on thier other discussions as well.

[presstab]

Hey I am breaking my own recommendations of not posting on this thread. Imagine that!  How immature I must be! You know me... parading around as the most mature member of crypto.

/sarcasm

Anyone is free to post what they want, in fact the thread is quite entertaining to watch the FUDsters repeat the same thing over and over. So here have a free bump to the top of the forum courtesy of my immature, spoiled (I think I was called spoiled a few times?) self. 

[Hypnotique]

I have no affiliation with anyone

FTFY

[Hypnotique]

HYP is Horseshit coin for Horseshit Humans.

If you work really hard on a project and your end goal is to fuck other people out of their money, fuck you.

Your work is not commendable. Its not smart, its not decent, its not cool, its not special. It just means you are content simply wasting all of our precious lifetimes pursuing your morally-barren quest for cash.

I will harp on you guys wherever you go, for the rest of your career here. Whatever new horseshit coin you take over next, I will be there to remind your "investors" what awful losers you are. Scammy criminal fucks.

Excellent post! I agree wholeheartedly.

[Mig-23]

Hey I am breaking my own recommendations of not posting on this thread. Imagine that!  How immature I must be! You know me... parading around as the most mature member of crypto.

/sarcasm

Anyone is free to post what they want, in fact the thread is quite entertaining to watch the FUDsters repeat the same thing over and over. So here have a free bump to the top of the forum courtesy of my immature, spoiled (I think I was called spoiled a few times?) self. 

just ignore and leave this threads