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January 31, 2015, 06:35:37 PM
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So, I haven't fired up the Neos wallet for a while. iSpace removed it from the multipools so had no need to open the wallet.

Recently iSpace added NEOS back into it's multipool 1. So, I updated to the latest wallet... backed up wallet.dat etc. first

So my views on the new wallet?

I Hate it, I like the concept a web based wallet an all but...

The primary address for the new wallet was different to the original wallet?
All the addresses that were setup in the original wallet address book are gone?
The primary wallet address seems to change on reboot?


So, I updated the new primary wallet addy on iSpace and waited for the coins to roll in...

I could see me getting blocks, coins and even see the coins being moved from unconfirmed to confirmed. They didn't reach my wallet though?

I checked the new pool payout addy against the primary addy in my wallet and they've changed? Plus, all the addresses I had setup in the new wallet were also gone?
No, I don't use a virtual machine and no I haven't installed the wallet again, I don't know why this has happened.

So, payouts from the pool are going god knows where and I have lost all of the small amount of NEOS I mined Sad

If that wasn't bad enough, once the NEOS wallet has been opened many of my other altcoin wallets now won't open unless I reboot?

After a reboot, I open NEOS web wallet, try to open others and I get "Unable to bind to 0.0.0.0:(any port) on this computer. COIN_NAME is probably already running."

If I reboot and DON'T open NEOS the other wallets open fine.

I then started poking around and realised that the new NEOS wallet had added services? I don't want a wallet that buries itself into my PC by adding services.

Not that I mined much NEOS but needless to say after recent experiences I won't be mining NEOS, FFC or MZC or using multipools any longer.

There are too may coins with flakey wallets or exchanges whose wallets have been in maintenance for so long it isn't worth mining the coin any longer as you can't trade it #Cryptsy!

It's hard/impossible to make ROI as it is, these problems just make the ROI even harder to achieve.

I applaud the concept and the information and features available in the new wallet but for me it simply doesn't work Sad

Sorry NEOS


First of all let me apologize for any issues you've had as I know how frustrating it can be thinking you've lost coin.  I've reached out to iSpace also as you're not the first person to report a bit of trouble there and I'm confident they'll respond and we'll validate any issues and resolve them.  Before I can begin to speculate as to what might have happened during the wallet upgrade/move - I have to ask; which version of Neos did you come from and attempt to go to?  Neos v1 to Neos v2.0.1b?

If you would be open to the idea, I can TeamView in and recover anything that might have been lost in translation or cover the loss myself.  One other key point to mention is that if you've used the Qt that's provided (but marked as "Do not use") and mined to an address there, the web interface will show a completely different wallet/set of addresses than that one.  In either case, this is all completely recoverable and a painless process if you'll allow me to do it for you and set it straight.  The coins not showing up could indicate a few possible circumstances:

1.  The Qt wallet address was used as I've already mentioned
2.  You're not on the latest release and blockchain (as we forked to single-algo)
3.  The original wallet.dat wasn't imported properly into the web interface and therefore isn't showing

I can promise you one thing and that is that regardless of the outcome your situation will be rectified and your coins aren't lost.  Regarding windows services and your tweets over at https://twitter.com/CryptoMinerUK/status/561534743754584065

1.  Neos will never and has never interfered with another wallet unless you set both to listen on the same ports
2.  The services came to be as a request after 2.0 was released and at the time the management was done via 2 command prompts.  Services due to UAC have proven on some systems to be troublesome which is why in 2.0.2 there is a launcher which doesn't require any escalated privileges and it's much cleaner and easier - not relying on services whatsoever.

The issues that have surface on random Windows installations have been addressed in 2.0.2.  I'm sorry if it's been a less-than-positive experience for you, but it seems along the lines there was also some unnecessary confusion due to Neos taking a new/different approach compared to other projects in existence.  If you're willing to allow me to clear this up for you, I would be more than happy to and I'm here all day and throughout the night.

     Best regards,

syntaks
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January 31, 2015, 10:27:47 PM
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Syntaks,
Many thanks for the response. The missing coin is not a huge amount, it's more frustrating losing coin after miners humming away earning them. Your offer to replace missing coin is very kind and much appreciated. As mentioned before the amount is not huge so please don't worry about recovering or replacing the missing coin from your own pocket.

I have had NO issues with iSpace payouts, all have been received with no issues barring the recent problem with NEOS. I've mined iSpace for a long time since they were only a Tigercoin pool and never had problems that weren't resolved quickly.

The QT wallet was v1.0.0.0. I did backup the wallet.dat file before running the upgrade. There were no coins in the wallet before the upgrade so no losses there. It was after I had noted the new primary address and updated my iSpace payout address that the coins went missing between pool and wallet. Coins were leaving iSpace and were arriving in the new wallet, after a few days they stopped arriving in the new wallet?

I only tested the opening of the NEOS wallet then other wallets once so perhaps I should test a little more to try and give you an idea of what might be causing the issues. Before the upgrade all the other alt coin wallets seemed fine.

As a precaution I have disabled the services for NEOS. I don't really want a wallet having services or background software running on my PC.

As I said in previous post. I do like the idea of a web based wallet. I wanted to let you know some of the issues I'd had in case anyone else had experienced similar issues.

@infernoman, Asking for help with this problem, not really, the amount of coin missing didn't warrant me spending that much of anyone's time to resolve it. I rarely end up with NEOS coin so didn't see this would be an ongoing problem for me.
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February 01, 2015, 02:30:59 AM
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Syntaks,
Many thanks for the response. The missing coin is not a huge amount, it's more frustrating losing coin after miners humming away earning them. Your offer to replace missing coin is very kind and much appreciated. As mentioned before the amount is not huge so please don't worry about recovering or replacing the missing coin from your own pocket.

I have had NO issues with iSpace payouts, all have been received with no issues barring the recent problem with NEOS. I've mined iSpace for a long time since they were only a Tigercoin pool and never had problems that weren't resolved quickly.

The QT wallet was v1.0.0.0. I did backup the wallet.dat file before running the upgrade. There were no coins in the wallet before the upgrade so no losses there. It was after I had noted the new primary address and updated my iSpace payout address that the coins went missing between pool and wallet. Coins were leaving iSpace and were arriving in the new wallet, after a few days they stopped arriving in the new wallet?

I only tested the opening of the NEOS wallet then other wallets once so perhaps I should test a little more to try and give you an idea of what might be causing the issues. Before the upgrade all the other alt coin wallets seemed fine.

As a precaution I have disabled the services for NEOS. I don't really want a wallet having services or background software running on my PC.

As I said in previous post. I do like the idea of a web based wallet. I wanted to let you know some of the issues I'd had in case anyone else had experienced similar issues.

@infernoman, Asking for help with this problem, not really, the amount of coin missing didn't warrant me spending that much of anyone's time to resolve it. I rarely end up with NEOS coin so didn't see this would be an ongoing problem for me.

What I think might have happened in this case is that you are on Neos 2.0.1 and not Neos 2.0.1b (which is the post-fork version).  That would explain why the sudden stop of transactions.  Would you provide the address you were mining to and tell me the last-known balance in your wallet?  As far as asking for help, Neos is what I work on literally every day, and all day and through the night.  You're not wasting anyone's time by asking for help for any amount of coin albeit 0 or 10000.  That's what I'm here for - to support my product and the community using it.

     Best regards,

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February 04, 2015, 09:51:52 AM
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How is this project coming along? Looks very interesting!  Kiss
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February 04, 2015, 02:15:12 PM
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How is this project coming along? Looks very interesting!  Kiss

Follow Syntaks on Twitter... He regularly informs his Followers about progress:


9 hours ago:

Neos 2.0.2 - Windows is ready for deployment.  Working on osX now.  I'll release all three platforms at the same time. $neos #neoscoin
https://twitter.com/NeosCoin/status/562845109956657152



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February 04, 2015, 02:22:31 PM
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Just for Completion... There are some other good news coming for Neos.

TheMage about Koinyx (Syntaks already mentioned Koinyx in Post 1):


As promised, Koinyx updates! New blog posts, customer tiers, mentioning fiat, and more!
https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=22350.msg249686#msg249686
https://twitter.com/TheRealMage/status/562115039617105921


In Post 1 of the Thread about Koinyx is the List of Coins that will be added. Neos is one of them.
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February 04, 2015, 03:42:50 PM
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Just for Completion... There are some other good news coming for Neos.

TheMage about Koinyx (Syntaks already mentioned Koinyx in Post 1):


As promised, Koinyx updates! New blog posts, customer tiers, mentioning fiat, and more!
https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=22350.msg249686#msg249686
https://twitter.com/TheRealMage/status/562115039617105921


In Post 1 of the Thread about Koinyx is the List of Coins that will be added. Neos is one of them.

The level of transparency, commitment and communication offered by syntaks is without a questions one to admire. Keep up the great work mate. I am a believer of your work Smiley

Cheers.

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February 04, 2015, 09:10:22 PM
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How is this project coming along? Looks very interesting!  Kiss

It's coming along great actually.  I've had about 15 community members test 2.0.2 on Windows and provide feedback and I've addressed each detail.  Now my focus is on porting it all over to osX (which I'm in the process of as we speak) because our osX members were left in the dust when Yosemite "upgraded" everything on the system.

Also, thank you guys for the kind words and encouragement.  It means a lot to me.

     Best regards,

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February 08, 2015, 08:59:06 AM
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Hey guys-

I will be starting a bi-weekly newsletter, to help users get a quick run down every so often of what's going on in neos. This will also outline development of a new project I am working on called NeosHub.com. My end goal for neoshub is to be a solution to make it easy for neos users to obtain, spend, and sell stuff with neos. I would like to include tools as well as articles and other resources to aid in the long term adoption of neos.

I have included a preview of what the newsletter will look like. And will be posting one every 1st of the month, and 15th.



PS:I am looking for some beta testers, and content writers from the neos community that would not mind helping out, please shoot me a PM if so.



Hello guys, team and syntaks! I heard we're close to 2.0.2 release with many new features

How is it going with NEOSHUB, will we see this big project in February?

Best Regards.
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February 08, 2015, 09:20:22 AM
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Hey guys-

I will be starting a bi-weekly newsletter, to help users get a quick run down every so often of what's going on in neos. This will also outline development of a new project I am working on called NeosHub.com. My end goal for neoshub is to be a solution to make it easy for neos users to obtain, spend, and sell stuff with neos. I would like to include tools as well as articles and other resources to aid in the long term adoption of neos.

I have included a preview of what the newsletter will look like. And will be posting one every 1st of the month, and 15th.



PS:I am looking for some beta testers, and content writers from the neos community that would not mind helping out, please shoot me a PM if so.



Hello guys, team and syntaks! I heard we're close to 2.0.2 release with many new features

How is it going with NEOSHUB, will we see this big project in February?

Best Regards.

Hey Cornett,

     We are indeed very close to release.  I've finished up the Windows installer and tested it myself as well as several members of the community (windows 7/8/8.1).  I just literally finished the last files for the Linux installs and tested on a fresh Debian and Ubuntu VM, and am about to circle back to the osX buildout as my environment finished setting up the other day but as I had already started on the Linux section of everything while that was happening I just finished it rather than stopping to move to osX.  I'll keep everyone updated and I'll be creating a new thread considering this OP has outdated info and I'd like to keep things more current.  Unfortunately I havent heard from NarC in a while and he was a great Neos supporter.  I hope all is well with him but I'm not sure on where he is with his neoshub project.

     Best regards,

syntaks
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February 10, 2015, 08:08:19 PM
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Hey folks,

    tempus pointed out I hadn't updated here and that was my mistake.  The 2.0.2 announcement thread can be found at: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=951349.0

     Best regards,

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Ho ho hooo Cheesy I'm in again! Cheesy

much luck with your cheap coins Smiley

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Does anyone think that the price will hit $1 per coin?
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Does anyone think that the price will hit $1 per coin?

don't think anytime soon with this rate of development.

But the development has been steady, so who knows what happens in the future..

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February 11, 2015, 01:22:32 AM
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Does anyone think that the price will hit $1 per coin?

don't think anytime soon with this rate of development.

But the development has been steady, so who knows what happens in the future..

I just started mining it today so I am trying to decide whether or not to hold long term or sell sooner than later.
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Does anyone think that the price will hit $1 per coin?

don't think anytime soon with this rate of development.

But the development has been steady, so who knows what happens in the future..

I just started mining it today so I am trying to decide whether or not to hold long term or sell sooner than later.

I would probably wait till V2.1 comes out with new features..

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Some interesting buzz from twitter:



Looks like neos is beginning to attract the attention of a large audience and falls under the radar
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Some interesting buzz from twitter:

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Looks like neos is beginning to attract the attention of a large audience and falls under the radar

And we're just barely getting started   Wink

I couldn't ask for a better community, really.  [...] Thanks a lot for the compliments, we're just barely getting started.

     Best regards,

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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=951349.msg10434843#msg10434843

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I like the concept of your coin and it's wallet and wanted to get involved. I downloaded the wallet and purchased some coins to hold on the exchanges. After I sent the coins to my wallet I started having problems running the wallet. I am running windows 8.2 and after I run the wallet for a while it stops responding, just giving me the "Initialization" message. I then reinstalled the wallet and imported the wallet.dat and was able to recover my wallet after re-downloading the entire block chain. Low and behold, after running the wallet for short time the problem returned. I am glad I had sent my coins back to an exchange wallet for now until I can figure out thee problems.

The concept of a web wallet it good, but a simple, standard wallet should be available for those of us that wish to use an old style wallet or have problems with our configuration for one reason or another. Currently, I cannot involve myself with a coin that gives me so much frustration with the wallet. A simple wallet would solve this for me and others, I imagine.

Thanks.

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February 13, 2015, 02:46:46 PM
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I like the concept of your coin and it's wallet and wanted to get involved. I downloaded the wallet and purchased some coins to hold on the exchanges. After I sent the coins to my wallet I started having problems running the wallet. I am running windows 8.2 and after I run the wallet for a while it stops responding, just giving me the "Initialization" message. I then reinstalled the wallet and imported the wallet.dat and was able to recover my wallet after re-downloading the entire block chain. Low and behold, after running the wallet for short time the problem returned. I am glad I had sent my coins back to an exchange wallet for now until I can figure out thee problems.

The concept of a web wallet it good, but a simple, standard wallet should be available for those of us that wish to use an old style wallet or have problems with our configuration for one reason or another. Currently, I cannot involve myself with a coin that gives me so much frustration with the wallet. A simple wallet would solve this for me and others, I imagine.

Thanks.

Are all of the steps that were taken listed here already?  I haven't had other reports of this on 8.2 yet but that could just be due to there not being many 8.2 wallets in use.  As far as recovering your wallet only after re-downloading the blockchain, that wouldn't solve the wallet issue or it showing up unless the chain data was corrupt and that might be due to the bootstrap it fetches during the first run.  I'll be looking into the bootstrap and trying to reproduce this and my apologies for any inconvenience.  I'll keep this post updated as well as twitter/our forum with any findings.

     Best regards,

syntaks
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