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January 24, 2015, 01:53:48 AM
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Only groupies here, NEOS will not get good new investors. Nice talk about not giving shit about the price, but guess what new investors care about? This is the price, that's all

How's that Saffron Coin price working out for you?

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January 24, 2015, 02:04:01 AM
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Only groupies here, NEOS will not get good new investors. Nice talk about not giving shit about the price, but guess what new investors care about? This is the price, that's all

That's alright.  The team works on Neos daily on various aspects of it.  We won't stop, because this is what we love doing.  The investors that have reached out to us also have also shared their appreciation.  Neos has done basically no marketing and our community and team has grown not just in numbers but in terms of quality.  To me - that's priceless.

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January 24, 2015, 02:19:13 AM
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Only groupies here, NEOS will not get good new investors. Nice talk about not giving shit about the price, but guess what new investors care about? This is the price, that's all

How's that Saffron Coin price working out for you?


Never changed my footer, not holding any. You feeling butt hurt?

Nope. I'm not the one trolling threads.
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January 24, 2015, 12:53:31 PM
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Only groupies here, NEOS will not get good new investors. Nice talk about not giving shit about the price, but guess what new investors care about? This is the price, that's all

I am Investor since week one and never sold a single Neos, bought to nearly every price. And I'm very interested in the price and profit. But, like everybody, I saw a lot of Scams, hyped lies and honesty plans but rushing and incompetence, PnD's etc. And Neos is the opposite in every point. You don't need to be a groupie to see this project like that... research Neos and the Dev-Communication, take a look at the system, read the threads since beginning and keep on watching the progress. 

For me it's simple: I buy if I see steady progress and quality....and honesty. Because that will pay out. Investors buy because of the future. Who looks at current prices in general, and draw deep conclusions out of it, without research in the project and the Devs itself... should play roulette.
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January 25, 2015, 06:41:24 AM
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Only groupies here, NEOS will not get good new investors. Nice talk about not giving shit about the price, but guess what new investors care about? This is the price, that's all


Investors does not equal a community.


Honestly, the dev here works his ass off and gets nothing in return. Its sad to see all of these coin devs getting rich for much less work than syntaks has done, and frankly pisses me off. There are decent devs, there are good devs, and there are great devs, and syntaks is a great dev who is dedicated.

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January 25, 2015, 09:25:07 AM
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Only groupies here, NEOS will not get good new investors. Nice talk about not giving shit about the price, but guess what new investors care about? This is the price, that's all


Investors does not equal a community.


Honestly, the dev here works his ass off and gets nothing in return. Its sad to see all of these coin devs getting rich for much less work than syntaks has done, and frankly pisses me off. There are decent devs, there are good devs, and there are great devs, and syntaks is a great dev who is dedicated.

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January 25, 2015, 10:05:27 AM
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Only groupies here, NEOS will not get good new investors. Nice talk about not giving shit about the price, but guess what new investors care about? This is the price, that's all

I am Investor since week one and never sold a single Neos, bought to nearly every price. And I'm very interested in the price and profit. But, like everybody, I saw a lot of Scams, hyped lies and honesty plans but rushing and incompetence, PnD's etc. And Neos is the opposite in every point. You don't need to be a groupie to see this project like that... research Neos and the Dev-Communication, take a look at the system, read the threads since beginning and keep on watching the progress. 

For me it's simple: I buy if I see steady progress and quality....and honesty. Because that will pay out. Investors buy because of the future. Who looks at current prices in general, and draw deep conclusions out of it, without research in the project and the Devs itself... should play roulette.


This coin was hyped ,then pumped and dumped ,just check the graphs.
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January 25, 2015, 11:51:42 AM
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Only groupies here, NEOS will not get good new investors. Nice talk about not giving shit about the price, but guess what new investors care about? This is the price, that's all

I am Investor since week one and never sold a single Neos, bought to nearly every price. And I'm very interested in the price and profit. But, like everybody, I saw a lot of Scams, hyped lies and honesty plans but rushing and incompetence, PnD's etc. And Neos is the opposite in every point. You don't need to be a groupie to see this project like that... research Neos and the Dev-Communication, take a look at the system, read the threads since beginning and keep on watching the progress. 

For me it's simple: I buy if I see steady progress and quality....and honesty. Because that will pay out. Investors buy because of the future. Who looks at current prices in general, and draw deep conclusions out of it, without research in the project and the Devs itself... should play roulette.


This coin was hyped ,then pumped and dumped ,just check the graphs.

Hyped?  Sure, plenty of people were talking about it and some more enthusiastically than others.  Did I hype?  No.  I laid out all of the details of what Neos is and what I wanted it to be - nothing more.  Pumped and dumped?  Sure at one point and not by the team.  What's the relevance of that comment though considering I'm still here every day working on Neos and supporting it?  Have you ever installed Neos?  Give it a try, let me know what you think - please.  Your feedback/suggestions are something I'd take to heart and put thought into.

     Best regards,

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January 26, 2015, 09:52:46 PM
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How is v2.0.2 going?

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January 26, 2015, 10:07:19 PM
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How is v2.0.2 going?

It's going great.  I'll be posting a screencast by the end of the week. =)
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January 27, 2015, 05:40:50 PM
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How is v2.0.2 going?

Here's a screencast as promised just a bit earlier: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bC2lOXSqBro

There's more being done but at the moment I wanted to give everyone some insight as to what I'm spending my time on.

    Best regards,

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January 28, 2015, 07:24:54 PM
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Today I'm coding the rest of the "Tools" section and also found some more areas where performance can be improved.
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January 29, 2015, 09:27:33 PM
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Great job, is there any help we can offer?


 
 
 
 
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January 29, 2015, 09:44:59 PM
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Great job, is there any help we can offer?

Thanks a lot.  I just got done with a 2-day spree just cleaning everything up and trimming down everything efficiently from 85 files to 21 files.  I'm not sure what it is that you do.  Would you elaborate?

     Thanks a lot,

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January 31, 2015, 01:35:41 AM
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Hey folks,

     I just wanted to take a minute away from coding and post here just to maintain transparency and keep everyone updated.  I'm currently working on the launcher for all systems to handle a few tasks.  One of which being upgrading from a previous install that way it's not such a hassle or confusing for anyone.  Right now it can control starting and stopping Neos, and a button to open up your wallet (some people were confused as to how to access it).  This will be for all supported systems (Windows, Linux, osX) and will take away any UAC issues previously found with our latest approach to control on Windows systems through services.  I also feel this will make it much easier for osX users as well.  I'm really trying to push Neos into a more user-friendly place to help with growth and use.  Once that's done I'm working on a version-independent compile of php for osX so that any future releases of osX won't interfere with Neos as we've just seen with the latest Apple updates.  Once this is complete, the auth work continues and any updates moving forward you'll be able to handle from within your wallet with just a click.  Adding to that, once auth has been completed (including necessary php core changes), it will be likely the last download you'll ever have to handle yourself with Neos again.  As I've said, the goal is to make it simple here for everyone and as smooth as possible.  If anyone has any questions or requests, by all means don't hesitate.  Thanks a lot for your continued support I really appreciate it.

     Best regards,

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January 31, 2015, 01:51:02 AM
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Wish all developers here were like you.
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January 31, 2015, 07:02:36 AM
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Automatic updating is one of the most imporant functions of any kind of software. That feature is very important from usability standpoint and I think unique in crypto world so far, so I wish to thank you for that. On the other hand, I think expelling anonimity from Neos is not good. In the world of surveillance and tracking users need to protect themselves and I would even add another layer of protection on top of Arbitrush which could be automatical connection to Tor network. Don't know how it's possible in slow p2p networks but instant transactions is a field where some effort could be put too.

The concept of php hosted web wallet is great, don't pay attention to ones telling php is history or old/disfunctional technology, half of the web world runs on it and I don't see it will ever vanish. Number of functionalities in Neos wallet is great, it's like "the only place you need for transactions, mining and trading".

Talking about the price, don't fall for "price is not important because functionalities are there". Price is direct measure of how much people are using Neos, and goal is to be used as much as possible, also market cap is related. But even if Neos is one of the best coins around regarding functinality, stability and I don't see it rising at all if serious marketing effort is not done. The competition between alts is harsh, seems like Bitcoin has really succeeded in first-mover advantage, and there's very little space left for altcoins.

Just my 2 neos-cents Smiley...

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Automatic updating is one of the most imporant functions of any kind of software. That feature is very important from usability standpoint and I think unique in crypto world so far, so I wish to thank you for that. On the other hand, I think expelling anonimity from Neos is not good. In the world of surveillance and tracking users need to protect themselves and I would even add another layer of protection on top of Arbitrush which could be automatical connection to Tor network. Don't know how it's possible in slow p2p networks but instant transactions is a field where some effort could be put too.

The concept of php hosted web wallet is great, don't pay attention to ones telling php is history or old/disfunctional technology, half of the web world runs on it and I don't see it will ever vanish. Number of functionalities in Neos wallet is great, it's like "the only place you need for transactions, mining and trading".

Talking about the price, don't fall for "price is not important because functionalities are there". Price is direct measure of how much people are using Neos, and goal is to be used as much as possible, also market cap is related. But even if Neos is one of the best coins around regarding functinality, stability and I don't see it rising at all if serious marketing effort is not done. The competition between alts is harsh, seems like Bitcoin has really succeeded in first-mover advantage, and there's very little space left for altcoins.

Just my 2 neos-cents Smiley...

I think a few misconceptions regarding my comments about "not caring about the price" need to be cleared up and I'm glad you mentioned it.  When I've said that in the past and even currently you'll find me making that comment, I mean to relay that my dedication and devotion to Neos won't change with the market rate.  It's a time-proven unfortunate reality that in many projects if the price isn't sustained at a certain level or the developers haven't been able to cash out they basically move on and drop the project.  When I state I don't "care" about the price, I mean that I've made a commitment to this community and Neos and I'm sticking by it.  Regarding anonymity, my feelings are completely in-line with yours and I've spoken with numerous members of the community who have either come onto the forums, IRC or emailed me.  The consensus is that if we want to move forward and be considered as more than an alt with a novelty feature it was a wise decision to remove our implemented method of anonymization.  In all truth, it wasn't used and when people were asked if they used it or would the answer was no.  It was typically perceived as a feature only those wishing to hide their activity wanted rather than those just simply wanting a given right - privacy.  Another unfortunate to consider is just how strong is someone's anonymization when the level of operational security varies on a case-by-case basis?  What ultimately made me scratch my head was when various members of the community approached me with "Hey, $some_darkweb_site wants to add Neos".  That's not why I'm here or why Neos was created and it's just yet another nail in that coffin.  My belief in everyone's rights - especially in the realm of general freedom is incredibly strong and something I stand by.  However, I'm not trying to be a means of escape for those with lesser-than-innocent intentions.  Instant transactions is something I'm not sure if DarkCoin has released yet or not and I'm not sure of the level of feasibility there from a front-facing standpoint.  I would have to look more into the approach and ensure it didn't defeat the basic operating nature of the blockchain.

As far as comments directed towards PHP, I couldn't agree more with you.  It seems Node has become the "in thing" as of late and it's definitely nice and has many strong points however, it's not an area I practice in and I'm very confident with a language that's had years of development put into it and proven itself over time to be reliable and strong enough to do just as you said - power the majority of sites in existence today.  It's also something that's widely-used enough to the point that integration of other features/services and libraries can happen with ease.  Other PHP developers are more than welcomed to (and have) approach me with concepts and possible integration with Neos.  One particular team contacted me months back but unfortunately I haven't heard much in the way of progress from them lately.  The point being though is I chose a language that could build a nice foundation for the present and future use of Neos and I'm coding daily exclusively on Neos all week long.  There's always room for improvement and I'm making those improvements as I find them or they're discovered.  The in-wallet updating is definitely a must.  I'm trying to take Neos into the future with the focus being on ease of use and as error-resistant as possible for the average person and even the more advanced people.  Instead of everyone waiting for me to make an announcement in the near future - their wallet will automatically notify them and enable them to opt to update.  The severity of the updates will be displayed and explanation of what they're for as well.

Regarding marketing - a topic you've made many good points about - it's not a strong area of mine and never has been.  I would love to have a marketing team that knows how to increase exposure and gain more use without spamming the hell out of everyone.  That's an area I could definitely use some assistance in and believe me, I'm doing the best with what I currently have to work with and the team I have that isn't a marketing team.  They're just great individuals with amazing talent - that just doesn't fall in the realm of marketing.  I'm not some massive corporation or even a company, I'm just one man who has a strong and pure belief in crypto and what it has the potential to be and accomplish and Neos is an expression of that.  It's meant to stand firm a reliable, honest, and technologically-advanced platform.  I'm always open to suggestions and more than willing to listen to them and speak with members of the community.  I spend my days coding and supporting Neos and I wouldn't have it any other way.  I think the future is bright for both Neos and crypto in general, and I'm looking forward to seeing that statement prove true in the upcoming days.

     Best regards,

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So, I haven't fired up the Neos wallet for a while. iSpace removed it from the multipools so had no need to open the wallet.

Recently iSpace added NEOS back into it's multipool 1. So, I updated to the latest wallet... backed up wallet.dat etc. first

So my views on the new wallet?

I Hate it, I like the concept a web based wallet an all but...

The primary address for the new wallet was different to the original wallet?
All the addresses that were setup in the original wallet address book are gone?
The primary wallet address seems to change on reboot?


So, I updated the new primary wallet addy on iSpace and waited for the coins to roll in...

I could see me getting blocks, coins and even see the coins being moved from unconfirmed to confirmed. They didn't reach my wallet though?

I checked the new pool payout addy against the primary addy in my wallet and they've changed? Plus, all the addresses I had setup in the new wallet were also gone?
No, I don't use a virtual machine and no I haven't installed the wallet again, I don't know why this has happened.

So, payouts from the pool are going god knows where and I have lost all of the small amount of NEOS I mined Sad

If that wasn't bad enough, once the NEOS wallet has been opened many of my other altcoin wallets now won't open unless I reboot?

After a reboot, I open NEOS web wallet, try to open others and I get "Unable to bind to 0.0.0.0:(any port) on this computer. COIN_NAME is probably already running."

If I reboot and DON'T open NEOS the other wallets open fine.

I then started poking around and realised that the new NEOS wallet had added services? I don't want a wallet that buries itself into my PC by adding services.

Not that I mined much NEOS but needless to say after recent experiences I won't be mining NEOS, FFC or MZC or using multipools any longer.

There are too may coins with flakey wallets or exchanges whose wallets have been in maintenance for so long it isn't worth mining the coin any longer as you can't trade it #Cryptsy!

It's hard/impossible to make ROI as it is, these problems just make the ROI even harder to achieve.

I applaud the concept and the information and features available in the new wallet but for me it simply doesn't work Sad

Sorry NEOS
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So, I haven't fired up the Neos wallet for a while. iSpace removed it from the multipools so had no need to open the wallet.

Recently iSpace added NEOS back into it's multipool 1. So, I updated to the latest wallet... backed up wallet.dat etc. first

So my views on the new wallet?

I Hate it, I like the concept a web based wallet an all but...

The primary address for the new wallet was different to the original wallet?
All the addresses that were setup in the original wallet address book are gone?
The primary wallet address seems to change on reboot?


So, I updated the new primary wallet addy on iSpace and waited for the coins to roll in...

I could see me getting blocks, coins and even see the coins being moved from unconfirmed to confirmed. They didn't reach my wallet though?

I checked the new pool payout addy against the primary addy in my wallet and they've changed? Plus, all the addresses I had setup in the new wallet were also gone?
No, I don't use a virtual machine and no I haven't installed the wallet again, I don't know why this has happened.

So, payouts from the pool are going god knows where and I have lost all of the small amount of NEOS I mined Sad

If that wasn't bad enough, once the NEOS wallet has been opened many of my other altcoin wallets now won't open unless I reboot?

After a reboot, I open NEOS web wallet, try to open others and I get "Unable to bind to 0.0.0.0:(any port) on this computer. COIN_NAME is probably already running."

If I reboot and DON'T open NEOS the other wallets open fine.

I then started poking around and realised that the new NEOS wallet had added services? I don't want a wallet that buries itself into my PC by adding services.

Not that I mined much NEOS but needless to say after recent experiences I won't be mining NEOS, FFC or MZC or using multipools any longer.

There are too may coins with flakey wallets or exchanges whose wallets have been in maintenance for so long it isn't worth mining the coin any longer as you can't trade it #Cryptsy!

It's hard/impossible to make ROI as it is, these problems just make the ROI even harder to achieve.

I applaud the concept and the information and features available in the new wallet but for me it simply doesn't work Sad

Sorry NEOS


Have you ever thought to ask for a bit of help? by the sounds of things you upgraded from the QT correct? if so where did you place your backup wallet.dat after you installed the web wallet? if you placed in back in the appdata/roaming folder for windows. your in the wrong place. since the web wallet uses a different directory. delete the QT wallet. and do not use it because the 2 programs will return different addresses since they use different data directories. if you still have your wallet.dat then maybe you should come and ask for a bit of help to get things working? MAYBE there wouldve been someone nice enough in the community to tip you some of the coins you lost. but you've probably lost that chance.

NOBODY else has reported problems about the neoscoin web wallet interfering with other wallets.

So maybe you should wait until 2.0.2 comes out ask for a bit of help from the community getting it installed properly since your trying to upgrade from the QT which is nothing but problems. and why it is no longer supplied. The web wallet gives neos much more customization availability, and security features that the QT cannot provide.

if you'd like some help i'm sure you can find someone more than willing to help you with your problem. but you didnt even ask. =/
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