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December 11, 2014, 08:28:42 AM
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sha256 - only?

temporarily or permanently?
Permanent, but you can always mine from the MP with x11 and I'm not sure what else Smiley

Its great, it will diminish the sell pressure significantly.
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December 11, 2014, 08:33:07 AM
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Its great, it will diminish the sell pressure significantly.

Yep, I think it's buy-in time for me.

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December 11, 2014, 08:37:46 PM
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some can still mining with blake apparently...
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December 11, 2014, 10:04:31 PM
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some can still mining with blake apparently...
Pretty sure the changes will be in effect in a few days Smiley
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December 12, 2014, 01:18:14 AM
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It's bad enough that we are losing X11. The problem isnt multi-algo, its botnets killing your price. Just getting rid of the blake would have X11 and SHA coming back online after the botnet flooding stops. But, no, instead you choose to lock it into the rich ASIC guys and hope they even bother to look this way when you go up against the bitcoin and other SHA market evals. I don't really think you folks have thought this through. If so, I think you would have gone with X11 instead of SHA. or done something like SPR that kills the bots but still allows CPU mining. Either one would have stopped the flooding and kept the energy efficient and decentralized mining intact. What you are doing feels like overkill. For your sake and my bag, I hope I am wrong...

Hell, at this point I'd just be happy to be able to upgrade from a functioning v1.2 to v2+ without having to start over with a completely new address! What a pain! http://127.0.0.1:18000 simply isn't there... After 2 hours of dicking with this, I'm about ready to dump it all for something that is isn't actively trying to be ASIC centralized, is easy to install, and works out of the box!
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December 12, 2014, 01:56:45 AM
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Does myriad (or any multi-algo) coin have the same troubles that neos was having?

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December 12, 2014, 02:03:57 AM
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Does myriad (or any multi-algo) coin have the same troubles that neos was having?

ALL CPU coins will run into this same issue if their value is good enough to attract the botnet criminals. You either have to live with their influence, come up with a way to slow or stop them like SPR, or drop CPU support altogether. XMR is a good example of another innovating coin (not even multi, just CPU) that was highly abused by botnets until its difficulty/market value drove a lot of its bots to greener pastures (ie: neos and other blake coins). It may or may not recover either...
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December 12, 2014, 05:27:18 AM
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ALL CPU coins will run into this same issue if their value is good enough to attract the botnet criminals. You either have to live with their influence, come up with a way to slow or stop them like SPR, or drop CPU support altogether. XMR is a good example of another innovating coin (not even multi, just CPU) that was highly abused by botnets until its difficulty/market value drove a lot of its bots to greener pastures (ie: neos and other blake coins). It may or may not recover either...

It's bad enough that we are losing X11. The problem isnt multi-algo, its botnets killing your price. Just getting rid of the blake would have X11 and SHA coming back online after the botnet flooding stops. But, no, instead you choose to lock it into the rich ASIC guys and hope they even bother to look this way when you go up against the bitcoin and other SHA market evals. I don't really think you folks have thought this through. If so, I think you would have gone with X11 instead of SHA. or done something like SPR that kills the bots but still allows CPU mining. Either one would have stopped the flooding and kept the energy efficient and decentralized mining intact. What you are doing feels like overkill. For your sake and my bag, I hope I am wrong...

Hell, at this point I'd just be happy to be able to upgrade from a functioning v1.2 to v2+ without having to start over with a completely new address! What a pain! http://127.0.0.1:18000 simply isn't there... After 2 hours of dicking with this, I'm about ready to dump it all for something that is isn't actively trying to be ASIC centralized, is easy to install, and works out of the box!

I noticed a couple of details here, you point out other projects in both of your posts and passively suggest you're moving onto another project.  That and the fact we've never had a version 1.2 and the instructions from moving from 1.0 to 2.0 were pretty clear with the majority of people upgrading seamlessly (even though I'll even say 1.0 -> 2.x wasn't the smoothest even).  You claim to have been running Neos since v1, yet I've never nor has anyone on the team received a request for support from you or have even see your name - yet all of this time (months now) has passed and you've brought this to attention here on a major announcement post of ours.  Doesn't really sound all that genuine and typical attempt to talk Neos down while pushing other cryptos.  Pretty low.

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December 12, 2014, 05:30:23 AM
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It's bad enough that we are losing X11. The problem isnt multi-algo, its botnets killing your price. Just getting rid of the blake would have X11 and SHA coming back online after the botnet flooding stops. But, no, instead you choose to lock it into the rich ASIC guys and hope they even bother to look this way when you go up against the bitcoin and other SHA market evals. I don't really think you folks have thought this through. If so, I think you would have gone with X11 instead of SHA. or done something like SPR that kills the bots but still allows CPU mining. Either one would have stopped the flooding and kept the energy efficient and decentralized mining intact. What you are doing feels like overkill. For your sake and my bag, I hope I am wrong...

Hell, at this point I'd just be happy to be able to upgrade from a functioning v1.2 to v2+ without having to start over with a completely new address! What a pain! http://127.0.0.1:18000 simply isn't there... After 2 hours of dicking with this, I'm about ready to dump it all for something that is isn't actively trying to be ASIC centralized, is easy to install, and works out of the box!

Sorry mate I was running 1.0, followed the guide and effortlessly upgraded to 2.0 faster than a MS patch. Not sure why you've having so much trouble.
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December 12, 2014, 07:29:10 AM
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It's bad enough that we are losing X11. The problem isnt multi-algo, its botnets killing your price. Just getting rid of the blake would have X11 and SHA coming back online after the botnet flooding stops. But, no, instead you choose to lock it into the rich ASIC guys and hope they even bother to look this way when you go up against the bitcoin and other SHA market evals. I don't really think you folks have thought this through. If so, I think you would have gone with X11 instead of SHA. or done something like SPR that kills the bots but still allows CPU mining. Either one would have stopped the flooding and kept the energy efficient and decentralized mining intact. What you are doing feels like overkill. For your sake and my bag, I hope I am wrong...

Hell, at this point I'd just be happy to be able to upgrade from a functioning v1.2 to v2+ without having to start over with a completely new address! What a pain! http://127.0.0.1:18000 simply isn't there... After 2 hours of dicking with this, I'm about ready to dump it all for something that is isn't actively trying to be ASIC centralized, is easy to install, and works out of the box!
I think you've mistaken us for people who care if you dump or not? Actually I kinda do... please dump lol my buys are all over Wink
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December 12, 2014, 09:27:32 AM
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I noticed a couple of details here, you point out other projects in both of your posts and passively suggest you're moving onto another project.  That and the fact we've never had a version 1.2 and the instructions from moving from 1.0 to 2.0 were pretty clear with the majority of people upgrading seamlessly (even though I'll even say 1.0 -> 2.x wasn't the smoothest even).  You claim to have been running Neos since v1, yet I've never nor has anyone on the team received a request for support from you or have even see your name - yet all of this time (months now) has passed and you've brought this to attention here on a major announcement post of ours.  Doesn't really sound all that genuine and typical attempt to talk Neos down while pushing other cryptos.  Pretty low.

      Best regards,

syntaks

First, I want to thank you Syntaks for going above and beyond (personal teamviewer support) in getting me up and running. I hope v2.02 addresses all the issues that might make such teamviewer sessions a necessity.

Second, I want to apologize for the misunderstanding, and for allowing my frustrations to get the better of me, essentially "cutting in line" on this "announcement post" instead of stumbling into that IRC chat room before coming here... My only excuse was that I had already checked every forum and other related suggestion that I could find to no avail, and tensions were high...

As far as the "details"

Again, apologies...

1) The other projects I mentioned were not mentioned in the context of advertisement, but of comparative example. One was specifically mentioned because of their innovation with keeping fair and decentralized CPU mining, but minimizing the botnet threat at the same time. Exactly the main reason you tell us that you have to dump the CPU and GPU community and move your mining to the fewer and more centralized, wealthier and more ROI oriented ASIC operators. The other was just an example of another good coin slowly being killed by botnets that wasn't even multi-algo to begin with...

2) I just wanted it to work. While I am obviously not much of a fan of the current, installation and upgrade implementation, I DO like the functionality and ideas inherent with this coin and have been holding since August 27th. That's why I am here to begin with. But as with all things, if something isn't working as it is supposed to costing time and money, not to mention frustration, human nature doesn't promote sticking around for long. In business and customer relations, second chances are a luxury.
 
3) If you run the qt wallet distributed with v2.01b in the "C:\Program Files (x86)\Neos\do_not_use" folder, it is v1.2. That's where the v1.2 came from.  Cheesy

Anyways, all is sorted out now and I am once again a happy investor!

Thanks Again!

Hatch
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December 12, 2014, 09:52:18 AM
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I noticed a couple of details here, you point out other projects in both of your posts and passively suggest you're moving onto another project.  That and the fact we've never had a version 1.2 and the instructions from moving from 1.0 to 2.0 were pretty clear with the majority of people upgrading seamlessly (even though I'll even say 1.0 -> 2.x wasn't the smoothest even).  You claim to have been running Neos since v1, yet I've never nor has anyone on the team received a request for support from you or have even see your name - yet all of this time (months now) has passed and you've brought this to attention here on a major announcement post of ours.  Doesn't really sound all that genuine and typical attempt to talk Neos down while pushing other cryptos.  Pretty low.

      Best regards,

syntaks

First, I want to thank you Syntaks for going above and beyond (personal teamviewer support) in getting me up and running. I hope v2.02 addresses all the issues that might make such teamviewer sessions a necessity.

Second, I want to apologize for the misunderstanding, and for allowing my frustrations to get the better of me, essentially "cutting in line" on this "announcement post" instead of stumbling into that IRC chat room before coming here... My only excuse was that I had already checked every forum and other related suggestion that I could find to no avail, and tensions were high...

As far as the "details"

Again, apologies...

1) The other projects I mentioned were not mentioned in the context of advertisement, but of comparative example. One was specifically mentioned because of their innovation with keeping fair and decentralized CPU mining, but minimizing the botnet threat at the same time. Exactly the main reason you tell us that you have to dump the CPU and GPU community and move your mining to the fewer and more centralized, wealthier and more ROI oriented ASIC operators. The other was just an example of another good coin slowly being killed by botnets that wasn't even multi-algo to begin with...

2) I just wanted it to work. While I am obviously not much of a fan of the current, installation and upgrade implementation, I DO like the functionality and ideas inherent with this coin and have been holding since August 27th. That's why I am here to begin with. But as with all things, if something isn't working as it is supposed to costing time and money, not to mention frustration, human nature doesn't promote sticking around for long. In business and customer relations, second chances are a luxury.
 
3) If you run the qt wallet distributed with v2.01b in the "C:\Program Files (x86)\Neos\do_not_use" folder, it is v1.2. That's where the v1.2 came from.  Cheesy

Anyways, all is sorted out now and I am once again a happy investor!

Thanks Again!

Hatch

My pleasure man, I'm available for anyone anytime they need.  I'm sorry again for the hassles you ran into as that is a shared experience with a handful of other installations and we've found the root cause of that which has been addressed in 2.0.2.  If you or anyone else needs a hand or info, don't hesitate to contact me.

     Best regards,

syntaks
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December 12, 2014, 11:21:33 AM
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I noticed a couple of details here, you point out other projects in both of your posts and passively suggest you're moving onto another project.  That and the fact we've never had a version 1.2 and the instructions from moving from 1.0 to 2.0 were pretty clear with the majority of people upgrading seamlessly (even though I'll even say 1.0 -> 2.x wasn't the smoothest even).  You claim to have been running Neos since v1, yet I've never nor has anyone on the team received a request for support from you or have even see your name - yet all of this time (months now) has passed and you've brought this to attention here on a major announcement post of ours.  Doesn't really sound all that genuine and typical attempt to talk Neos down while pushing other cryptos.  Pretty low.

      Best regards,

syntaks

First, I want to thank you Syntaks for going above and beyond (personal teamviewer support) in getting me up and running. I hope v2.02 addresses all the issues that might make such teamviewer sessions a necessity.

Second, I want to apologize for the misunderstanding, and for allowing my frustrations to get the better of me, essentially "cutting in line" on this "announcement post" instead of stumbling into that IRC chat room before coming here... My only excuse was that I had already checked every forum and other related suggestion that I could find to no avail, and tensions were high...

As far as the "details"

Again, apologies...

1) The other projects I mentioned were not mentioned in the context of advertisement, but of comparative example. One was specifically mentioned because of their innovation with keeping fair and decentralized CPU mining, but minimizing the botnet threat at the same time. Exactly the main reason you tell us that you have to dump the CPU and GPU community and move your mining to the fewer and more centralized, wealthier and more ROI oriented ASIC operators. The other was just an example of another good coin slowly being killed by botnets that wasn't even multi-algo to begin with...

2) I just wanted it to work. While I am obviously not much of a fan of the current, installation and upgrade implementation, I DO like the functionality and ideas inherent with this coin and have been holding since August 27th. That's why I am here to begin with. But as with all things, if something isn't working as it is supposed to costing time and money, not to mention frustration, human nature doesn't promote sticking around for long. In business and customer relations, second chances are a luxury.
 
3) If you run the qt wallet distributed with v2.01b in the "C:\Program Files (x86)\Neos\do_not_use" folder, it is v1.2. That's where the v1.2 came from.  Cheesy

Anyways, all is sorted out now and I am once again a happy investor!

Thanks Again!

Hatch
At least your man enough to apologize , I respect that Smiley I always bother syntaks to team view my computer for all kinds of random stuff! lol Glad you can sort it out Wink
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December 12, 2014, 01:40:44 PM
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Any ideas on whats next on the neos feature list?

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December 12, 2014, 03:01:07 PM
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Any ideas on whats next on the neos feature list?

The roadmap needs some editing I'll pass that onto yak, but at the moment there are a few new key features (undisclosed) I'm back to working on for 2.0.2.  I'm *really* itching to set up a unique market though and that's pretty high priority on my list.

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December 12, 2014, 03:27:46 PM
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Any ideas on whats next on the neos feature list?

The roadmap needs some editing I'll pass that onto yak, but at the moment there are a few new key features (undisclosed) I'm back to working on for 2.0.2.  I'm *really* itching to set up a unique market though and that's pretty high priority on my list.

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awesome. New changes are coming to Happy Christmas time
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December 12, 2014, 07:21:29 PM
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Any ideas on whats next on the neos feature list?

The roadmap needs some editing I'll pass that onto yak, but at the moment there are a few new key features (undisclosed) I'm back to working on for 2.0.2.  I'm *really* itching to set up a unique market though and that's pretty high priority on my list.

     Best regards,

syntaks

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December 14, 2014, 12:22:07 AM
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Well last week neos went up 100% and has held that price since. This is the way a coin should rise, nice and slow and steady = healthy Smiley

Cant wait to see whats in store for v2.0.2!! And once thats done I know Syntaks has some great ideas that hell be working on, big ones! Smiley
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December 15, 2014, 02:09:54 AM
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Well last week neos went up 100% and has held that price since. This is the way a coin should rise, nice and slow and steady = healthy Smiley

Cant wait to see whats in store for v2.0.2!! And once thats done I know Syntaks has some great ideas that hell be working on, big ones! Smiley
Just put up a btc of buys, since I doubt we'll be in the 3k's again after this month

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December 15, 2014, 06:27:23 AM
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Well last week neos went up 100% and has held that price since. This is the way a coin should rise, nice and slow and steady = healthy Smiley

Cant wait to see whats in store for v2.0.2!! And once thats done I know Syntaks has some great ideas that hell be working on, big ones! Smiley
Just put up a btc of buys, since I doubt we'll be in the 3k's again after this month
Ya looks like this floor is pretty solid, no one wants to sell now Wink
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