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September 29, 2015, 11:40:13 PM |
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Todays payout is over 20 times higher than usual (at least mine). Any news?
You are a liar and a cheat! Prove that lie! You can not because you're a cheater! You are talking like a pupil in kindergarten. You are a liar. Prove that lie! You are a cheat. Because you're a cheater! I mean, WTF ? How about you tell us how much you have invested in total and how much you have got back in total, so far ? It is not very difficult. Just add up the order amounts from the Order page and payment amounts from Payout page of your account.
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Dexter770221
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September 30, 2015, 09:30:59 PM |
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Today I've got another very good payout. Almost perfect. I have 260GH, todays payout is 0.00211115. According to bitcoinwisdom.com perfect payout is 0.002204 I'm just stunned...
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Under development Modular UPGRADEABLE Miner (MUM). Looking for investors. Changing one PCB with screwdriver and you have brand new miner in hand... Plug&Play, scalable from one module to thousands.
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kotwica666
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October 05, 2015, 03:10:19 PM |
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Todays payout is over 20 times higher than usual (at least mine). Any news?
You are a liar and a cheat! Prove that lie! You can not because you're a cheater! You are talking like a pupil in kindergarten. You are a liar. Prove that lie! You are a cheat. Because you're a cheater! I mean, WTF ? How about you tell us how much you have invested in total and how much you have got back in total, so far ? It is not very difficult. Just add up the order amounts from the Order page and payment amounts from Payout page of your account. I did it many times in this thread.. As a matter of interest, especially to the 'investors' who are getting paid next to nothing, would you like to share the details of your holding, i.e. size, date purchased etc. I did this few times in this thread.. Last time on: July 30, 2015, 04:30:20 PM : Paying dust dust dust!
Total Hash Power 130 Ghs Latest Payout 0.00003976 BTC
Paid 0.07706015 BTC (since November 2014) Pending Payment 0.00513415 BTC SUM: 0.0821943
Spent: 130 Ghs = 0.13
0.13 - (paid) 0.0821943 = 0.0478057 to get ROI
with income 0.00003976 per day it is:
0.0478057 / 0.00003976 = 1202 days to get ROI (over 3 years more)
Good luck to investors!
Since 30 July different is only "Pending Payment" Now is: 0.00699282 BTC So in 52 days 0.00699282 - 0.00513415 = 0.00185867 it looks like kind of prank.. Since last post September 21, 2015, 12:25:36 PM till now - so 2 weeks "Pending Payment" changed - now is: 0.00741206 BTC So in two weeks: 0.00741206 - 0.00699282 (from September 21) = 0.000419240.00041924 / 14 days ~ 0.00003000 per dayLet's calculate it again: 130Ghz = 0.13 - what I paid until now received: 0.07706015 + pending payment: 0.00741206 = 0.08447221 0.13 - 0.08447221 = 0.04552779 to get ROI 0.04552779 / 0.00003000 = 1517.593 days to get ROI ~ 4 years more
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Dexter770221
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October 05, 2015, 09:21:19 PM |
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My today payout is 0.02162244 BTC (after many months). Treshold is 0.01, so in 7 days my account balance grown over 0.01 BTC. If I remember correctly balance was ~0.007 week ago. You may calculate average per day if you want. Before you start to calling me a liar again. https://tradeblock.com/bitcoin/address/17A3gis3VSC5iymakjCmrQSmuYT6XvYkoB
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October 07, 2015, 03:29:31 PM |
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5ick3uffalo
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October 11, 2015, 12:20:49 PM |
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Amazing. One of the few still paying. And to be honest, i thought this is a scam sure. Should have bought more Gh/s back then.
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thinkinger
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October 11, 2015, 01:00:26 PM |
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Amazing. One of the few still paying. And to be honest, i thought this is a scam sure. Should have bought more Gh/s back then.
i advice you not.
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Dexter770221
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October 12, 2015, 08:20:30 PM |
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I've also recived payout today. Another very good week, almost perfect. With 260GH payout was 0.01424729 BTC. Few more weeks like that and I will achieve ROI .
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Under development Modular UPGRADEABLE Miner (MUM). Looking for investors. Changing one PCB with screwdriver and you have brand new miner in hand... Plug&Play, scalable from one module to thousands.
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October 13, 2015, 05:02:15 AM |
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Another very good week, almost perfect. With 260GH payout was 0.01424729 BTC. Few more weeks like that and I will achieve ROI . You *do* know this is not a legitimate cloud mining service, right? That it's just the usual ponzi-based scam, yes? I'm assuming you'll say you do know this, which leads me to my next question: As a 'Legendary' member your opinion of various aspects of this industry will carry much more weight, do you not think your effusive comments about this fraudulent scheme will most likely encourage others to join it and eventually result in many many people losing their savings when it eventually runs for the "We wuz haxxored!!!!!!11!!!" door and takes their money? You may say that you are merely reporting on the numbers you are getting out of it but, if so, why would you so willingly continue posting just about your gains and no cautionary caveat to other members about the reality of the situation? Especially considering that, if you are really receiving a steady rate of payments out of their system and into your local wallet (because scam-side balances don't count), it is *highly* likely to be because you are such a high ranking member here and they want to make sure you report positively on them.
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GermanGiant
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October 13, 2015, 02:05:05 PM |
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You *do* know this is not a legitimate cloud mining service, right? That it's just the usual ponzi-based scam, yes?
What prompts you to derive this awful conclusion ? On what ground you are calling a service a Ponzi, which is paying consistently for a year now and probably the only cloud mining service that publishes payment proof for so long. I'm assuming you'll say you do know this, which leads me to my next question:
As a 'Legendary' member your opinion of various aspects of this industry will carry much more weight, do you not think your effusive comments about this fraudulent scheme will most likely encourage others to join it and eventually result in many many people losing their savings when it eventually runs for the "We wuz haxxored!!!!!!11!!!" door and takes their money?
You may say that you are merely reporting on the numbers you are getting out of it but, if so, why would you so willingly continue posting just about your gains and no cautionary caveat to other members about the reality of the situation? Especially considering that, if you are really receiving a steady rate of payments out of their system and into your local wallet (because scam-side balances don't count), it is *highly* likely to be because you are such a high ranking member here and they want to make sure you report positively on them.
You seem to be trying to use your DefaultTrust position to put a gag order on even acknowledging the facts about CMW. Last time AM hash shills tried this. You seem to be paid by Bit-X as I dont see a single word from you about them, though they are probably the largest fractional reserve mining aka Ponzi operation around.
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October 13, 2015, 02:22:33 PM Last edit: October 13, 2015, 03:07:52 PM by cryptodevil |
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Oh, hello, GermanGiant/SpanishSoldier/RussianRaibow
*waves*
What a surprise to see you popping up to defend your criminally fraudulent scam operation.
By all means, please explain to me how your scam's regular payment history, which you so love to tout as being evidence of legitimacy, is *any* different from, say, Bernie Madoff, who made sure his ponzi-based scheme was able to pay out reliably for more than thirty years, with regards to such being evidence of anything?
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GermanGiant
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October 13, 2015, 10:10:00 PM |
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Oh, hello, GermanGiant/SpanishSoldier/RussianRaibow
Hey, cryptodevil/tmfp/Puppet/jimmothy/MrTeal/Mabsark *waves*
What a surprise to see you popping up to defend your criminally fraudulent scam operation.
What a surprise that you confuse me as owner of CMW like your 5 other alts and just like them you too deny to leave -ve on some specific mining services, which does not show any mining/payment proof. By all means, please explain to me how your scam's regular payment history, which you so love to tout as being evidence of legitimacy, is *any* different from, say, Bernie Madoff, who made sure his ponzi-based scheme was able to pay out reliably for more than thirty years, with regards to such being evidence of anything?
By all means, please explain me why you leave -ve on me, but spare Bit-X promoters ?
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cryptodevil
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October 14, 2015, 05:00:26 AM |
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like your 5 other alts Uhuh, sure, like I've got that much time to spend on this account as I do *and* all those others? But deflection is all you have I guess, as evidenced by your further response below. and just like them you too deny to leave -ve on some specific mining services, which does not show any mining/payment proof. I don't give a shit about payment proof, as I've explained it isn't evidence of anything. You know something? I haven't even bothered looking up Bit-X, because it isn't something that pings up on threads with people pointing out obvious scam-flags, like you get with cloudmining.website and scrypt.cc and clouminr.io and all the other obvious-ponzi-is-obvious fraudulent operations. I'll go take a quick look now. *paused* *done* Bit-X could well be a *really* elaborate scam, I mean *really* *really* elaborate to the degree that they have the largest ASIC hardware manufacturer in the world partnering up with them and yet they still end up fucking everybody over in the long run. Hi All, We are glad to announce an official thread of BitFury Group. Here we will publish all important information about our Company.
BitFury Group has chosen Bit-X – a new online platform for cryptocurrency exchange, to serve for the time being as a platform for trading BitFury's hash power. MORE DETAILS: Q: How much does it cost? A: The market defines the price. Q: How much do you sell? Any specific requirements to qualify to buy? A: Currently, 1PH has been allocated to Bit-X, no specific requirements. Q: Is that the only place where BitFury sells its hashpower? A: At this time, this is the only public trading place for BitFury's hashpower.
Other than, perhaps, the risk of fractional mining, exactly what can be deduced about them that is sufficiently shady to warrant a confident -ve rating? By all means, please explain to me how your scam's regular payment history, which you so love to tout as being evidence of legitimacy, is *any* different from, say, Bernie Madoff, who made sure his ponzi-based scheme was able to pay out reliably for more than thirty years, with regards to such being evidence of anything?
By all means, please explain me why you leave -ve on me, but spare Bit-X promoters ? So, as I said, you can't keep deflecting on to other issues as though the act of deflection answers the question, it doesn't. All it does is make you look either stupid, dishonest or both. Are you ready to concede that your repeated use of cloudmining.website's payment history serves as NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER as to whether they are actually mining?
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October 14, 2015, 12:29:46 PM Last edit: October 16, 2015, 08:56:14 PM by tmfp |
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Oh, hello, GermanGiant/SpanishSoldier/RussianRaibow/Vitamin King/TheGeorge my edit
Hey, cryptodevil/tmfp/Puppet/jimmothy/MrTeal/Mabsark Hi GG, how's the basement Ponzi crew? Full disclosure (not that you'll believe me): I have one alt that has posted four times, never about cloud mining. Transparency: Cryptodevil has given me a positive trust and we have swapped a handful of pm's. He likes the background work I did on Cryptory, BitcoinTrader, Esoteric Investments, PB, Cryptomine.io, Cloudthink, MMM clones and recently BitcoinNetwork. All of which turned out to be failed scams, apart from BCN which is still raking in the moolah because of its MLM momentum. Talking of full disclosure and transparency, that's where your beloved Cloudmining.website fails miserably in its attempt to be seen as anything but a probable ponzi. The only evidence there is of it actually existing is a website and some blockchain transactions. Nothing else whatsoever. Ironically, the thing that turns me from "probable" to "highly likely" is your dull and unimaginative shilling. I know you only have a little material to work with, Tx's and that laughable CMMonitor, but you are stereotypical of the way old skool scam shills work, repetitive, ad hominem and dogged. CD has answered above why one "cloudminer" raises enough questions to be considered a likely scam and not others. Incidentially, it seems to me that the Admins of CMW have recently probably had a basement policy meeting to try and increase the income from this rather dull ponzi. Subjects started in Meta, posing as legit queries but actually just more half assed 'get the name out there as misunderstood' posting, and also the way in which just one member, legendary Dexter770221, has just recently started to report amazing increases in payments. Not for a moment suggesting that he is part of your little band of alts/shills, but a clever way to attempt legitimacy, throw a few Sats at your most reputable 'investor'. Fail for me though. See you around.
And welcome to AOL, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=317980 the latest member of the CM.website fan club/basement crew. Recently activated 2014 newb account, with two posts so far, both about CMW, both in VK's long running shill thread Sound familiar? AOL....Alex On Line?
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October 22, 2015, 01:29:34 AM |
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i've been scammed! its been too late to get my moneys back I invested 120 ghs at first and got a good payout but then wen I reinvest 8.000000 btc for 10ths that's when they got me. the large payout didn't get to the first week and suddenly my auto reinvest option was clicked on for me. it cost 0.002 btc per gigahash! I had thought that there was something mischievous going on with my account like some kind of collusion. What brought me to that feeling was the fact that I had asked genesis-mining.com to refund me a part of my bit coin transaction because it was posted in error and the fees were enormous. Then Genesis-mining.com waited until 4 days later to respond to me. That same day I went on to cloud mining.website and found that auto reinvest was enabled without my knowledge and to find matters worse that day I got lower than normal btc production. Then the next day, after auto reinvest purchases .54 btc of reinvestments the day before payouts monday, I get .002btc as production. This .002 is followed by .003 and then today i receive .001 btc; this amount is the production value of 270ghs alone. That means my account is producing the amount of 270ghs instead of the 10390ghs that I was contracted for. I can certainly understand that there is network difficulty but this amount is way below the miner contracted value. Also I feel bullied by the company and feel that there was some collusion occurring between the two companies because of the timed events. This really scares me lately because as an investor I cannot afford to lose this principle. output from dashboard:: Total Hash Power 10390 Ghs Latest Payout 0.00151049 BTC Latest Payout Date 2015-10-22 00:06:43 GMT Latest Hash Power Purchase from Reinvestment 270 Ghs Latest Reinvestment Date 2015-10-19 00:06:37 GMT Total Referral Earning 0 BTC Pending Payment 0.01687511 BTC Paid 0.25202395 BTC compared to what i should be getting: An API is available at https://alloscomp.com/bitcoin/calculator/json. Next difficulty retarget occurs at block 381023.0 (eta 7.1 days): 63420651541.8 / +4.2% [est.] Difficulty Factor Hash Rate Exchange Rate ($/BTC) [user] BTC / Block 25.00000000 This Difficulty Coins Dollars per Day 0.08582244 BTC $23.40 per Week 0.60075711 BTC $163.78 per Month 2.61222064 BTC $712.14 this diff (est) 0.60533431 BTC $165.03
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kotwica666
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October 22, 2015, 01:03:49 PM |
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i've been scammed! its been too late to get my moneys back I invested 120 ghs at first and got a good payout but then wen I reinvest 8.000000 btc for 10ths that's when they got me. the large payout didn't get to the first week and suddenly my auto reinvest option was clicked on for me. it cost 0.002 btc per gigahash! I had thought that there was something mischievous going on with my account like some kind of collusion. What brought me to that feeling was the fact that I had asked genesis-mining.com to refund me a part of my bit coin transaction because it was posted in error and the fees were enormous. Then Genesis-mining.com waited until 4 days later to respond to me. That same day I went on to cloud mining.website and found that auto reinvest was enabled without my knowledge and to find matters worse that day I got lower than normal btc production. Then the next day, after auto reinvest purchases .54 btc of reinvestments the day before payouts monday, I get .002btc as production. This .002 is followed by .003 and then today i receive .001 btc; this amount is the production value of 270ghs alone. That means my account is producing the amount of 270ghs instead of the 10390ghs that I was contracted for. I can certainly understand that there is network difficulty but this amount is way below the miner contracted value. Also I feel bullied by the company and feel that there was some collusion occurring between the two companies because of the timed events. This really scares me lately because as an investor I cannot afford to lose this principle. output from dashboard:: Total Hash Power 10390 Ghs Latest Payout 0.00151049 BTC Latest Payout Date 2015-10-22 00:06:43 GMT Latest Hash Power Purchase from Reinvestment 270 Ghs Latest Reinvestment Date 2015-10-19 00:06:37 GMT Total Referral Earning 0 BTC Pending Payment 0.01687511 BTC Paid 0.25202395 BTC compared to what i should be getting: An API is available at https://alloscomp.com/bitcoin/calculator/json. Next difficulty retarget occurs at block 381023.0 (eta 7.1 days): 63420651541.8 / +4.2% [est.] Difficulty Factor Hash Rate Exchange Rate ($/BTC) [user] BTC / Block 25.00000000 This Difficulty Coins Dollars per Day 0.08582244 BTC $23.40 per Week 0.60075711 BTC $163.78 per Month 2.61222064 BTC $712.14 this diff (est) 0.60533431 BTC $165.03 I'm sorry that you also fallen into their trap. When you invested? Since February I write here that it is a scam and present my calculation. What a pity that you didn't read a few pages of this thread before invest.
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GermanGiant
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October 22, 2015, 04:02:39 PM |
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i've been scammed!
Welcome to BitcoinTalk !!! its been too late to get my moneys back That is the same thing newbies are saying lately !!! I invested 120 ghs at first and got a good payout but then wen I reinvest 8.000000 btc for 10ths that's when they got me.
How ? the large payout didn't get to the first week and suddenly my auto reinvest option was clicked on for me. it cost 0.002 btc per gigahash!
How wonder... If they re-invest, they'd be doing it for all. Why would they select you ? Moreover, they charged you exactly what is stated in their FAQ !!! 8.How do I re-invest ?
There are two checkbox in settings page corresponding to hold & re-invest. If you check them on, your pending amount will be re-invested daily. Re-investment cost is 0.002 BTC/Ghs.
I had thought that there was something mischievous going on with my account like some kind of collusion. What brought me to that feeling was the fact that I had asked genesis-mining.com to refund me a part of my bit coin transaction because it was posted in error and the fees were enormous. Then Genesis-mining.com waited until 4 days later to respond to me. That same day I went on to cloud mining.website and found that auto reinvest was enabled without my knowledge and to find matters worse that day I got lower than normal btc production.
So, you mean, GM might be behind CMW ? Awesome Then the next day, after auto reinvest purchases .54 btc of reinvestments the day before payouts monday, I get .002btc as production.
This .002 is followed by .003 and then today i receive .001 btc; this amount is the production value of 270ghs alone. That means my account is producing the amount of 270ghs instead of the 10390ghs that I was contracted for.
I can certainly understand that there is network difficulty but this amount is way below the miner contracted value.
It is not only network difficulty, but also your mining luck and bitcoin price that matters to determine your payout. You can not expect 0.54 btc from 10390 Ghs week on week. Take the stat of six months or larger and let us know where your average stand. Also I feel bullied by the company and feel that there was some collusion occurring between the two companies because of the timed events. This really scares me lately because as an investor I cannot afford to lose this principle. output from dashboard:: Total Hash Power 10390 Ghs Latest Payout 0.00151049 BTC Latest Payout Date 2015-10-22 00:06:43 GMT Latest Hash Power Purchase from Reinvestment 270 Ghs Latest Reinvestment Date 2015-10-19 00:06:37 GMT Total Referral Earning 0 BTC Pending Payment 0.01687511 BTC Paid 0.25202395 BTC compared to what i should be getting: An API is available at https://alloscomp.com/bitcoin/calculator/json. Next difficulty retarget occurs at block 381023.0 (eta 7.1 days): 63420651541.8 / +4.2% [est.] Difficulty Factor Hash Rate Exchange Rate ($/BTC) [user] BTC / Block 25.00000000 This Difficulty Coins Dollars per Day 0.08582244 BTC $23.40 per Week 0.60075711 BTC $163.78 per Month 2.61222064 BTC $712.14 this diff (est) 0.60533431 BTC $165.03 So, again you mean, GM might be behind CMW ?
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October 24, 2015, 10:05:19 AM |
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Then the next day, after auto reinvest purchases .54 btc of reinvestments the day before payouts monday, I get .002btc as production.
This .002 is followed by .003 and then today i receive .001 btc; this amount is the production value of 270ghs alone. That means my account is producing the amount of 270ghs instead of the 10390ghs that I was contracted for.
I can certainly understand that there is network difficulty but this amount is way below the miner contracted value.
It is not only network difficulty, but also your mining luck and bitcoin price that matters to determine your payout. You can not expect 0.54 btc from 10390 Ghs week on week. Take the stat of six months or larger and let us know where your average stand. How wonder! If one can not expect 0.54 btc from 10390 Ghs week on week, then what the fuck this calculator is calculating - http://www.cloudmining.website/calculator.php ?
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