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March 16, 2013, 12:09:19 AM
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I'ld really wish this guy would put his charts with ask in USDs too (# of BTCs * price/BTC)

This doesn't make sense. On the ask side they are selling BTC, on the bid side they are selling USD. Its perfectly natural and intuitive to denominate the amount of BTC that are up for sale in BTC and the amount of USD that are up for sale in USD.


Besides one could sell 1 BTC for 100.000.000 and completely invalidate the whole graph if it was USD on both sides.

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March 16, 2013, 12:17:25 AM
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I'ld really wish this guy would put his charts with ask in USDs too (# of BTCs * price/BTC)
This doesn't make sense. On the ask side they are selling BTC, on the bid side they are selling USD. Its perfectly natural and intuitive to denominate the amount of BTC that are up for sale in BTC and the amount of USD that are up for sale in USD.
Besides one could sell 1 BTC for 100.000.000 and completely invalidate the whole graph if it was USD on both sides.

Exactly. If one would multiply the amount of $thing that is up for sale with some wishful thinking $price of the seller then all you get are meaningless phantasy numbers. If you instead just count the number of $thing that is up for sale without any price you always get the same exact amount of $thing that is actually currently available on this market, no matter how much its seller actually wants for it today.

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March 16, 2013, 12:32:01 AM
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I'ld really wish this guy would put his charts with ask in USDs too (# of BTCs * price/BTC)

This doesn't make sense. On the ask side they are selling BTC, on the bid side they are selling USD. Its perfectly natural and intuitive to denominate the amount of BTC that are up for sale in BTC and the amount of USD that are up for sale in USD.


Besides one could sell 1 BTC for 100.000.000 and completely invalidate the whole graph if it was USD on both sides.

That is why I would multiply by the actual BTC price as I did in my previous post....
For me, it would be much more informative to see 'the value' that is being offered to bid and 'the value' that is being offered to sell.
Given that the USD is still a lot less volatile than BTC, I would denominate this value in USD.
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March 16, 2013, 01:07:25 AM
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The numbers here still have a certain fantastical property to them. If someone wants to put 100000 BTC on mtgox and sell them for $1 trillion each, that'll show up in that chart as 100000 BTC "for sale".
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March 16, 2013, 01:52:26 AM
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guys this is to funny....


so i watched this new video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLVJwaMjZIs

and i made this video response

http://youtu.be/56B6eyYQ2kA


did i go over board? OPS! oh well... more lolz for you  Cheesy

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March 16, 2013, 02:25:55 AM
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The numbers here still have a certain fantastical property to them. If someone wants to put 100000 BTC on mtgox and sell them for $1 trillion each, that'll show up in that chart as 100000 BTC "for sale".

true, maybe only those within double current price or something like that should be considered?
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March 16, 2013, 02:32:22 AM
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guys this is to funny....


so i watched this new video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLVJwaMjZIs

and i made this video response

http://youtu.be/56B6eyYQ2kA


did i go over board? OPS! oh well... more lolz for you  Cheesy

That was like watching two retards on a street corner scream at one another, "You're a retard!"

It's funny, but you feel a bit ashamed that you're amused.

EDIT: Furthermore, that's 20 minutes of my life I can never get back.

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March 16, 2013, 02:50:10 AM
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guys this is to funny....


so i watched this new video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLVJwaMjZIs

and i made this video response

http://youtu.be/56B6eyYQ2kA


did i go over board? OPS! oh well... more lolz for you  Cheesy

That was like watching two retards on a street corner scream at one another, "You're a retard!"

It's funny, but you feel a bit ashamed that you're amused.

EDIT: Furthermore, that's 20 minutes of my life I can never get back.

lol what?
I'm not ashamed that i find it amusing... ( maybe theirs a typo Huh )

I thought it was hilarious.
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dont get me wrong, this is why I'm into bitcoin, i believe what i say, but at the same time its so fucking out-there that even i can't take myself too seriously... so i lol at the thought.

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March 16, 2013, 03:29:49 AM
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and i made this video response

http://youtu.be/56B6eyYQ2kA

I want to hear what that toddler in the background has to say!
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March 16, 2013, 03:32:54 AM
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and i made this video response

http://youtu.be/56B6eyYQ2kA

I want to hear what that toddler in the background has to say!

LOL!

he would  say "I know! I KNOW!"

he says "I know" a lot, damn kid thinks he knows everything   Smiley

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March 16, 2013, 04:01:40 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pID03RrmKow <- i think he stole that chart video from me LOL  nice
FUCK this bull shit...
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March 16, 2013, 04:18:32 AM
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where the fuck is everyone?

Adam, please stop being bullish. If you were a bear we'd be over 50 by now.

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March 16, 2013, 04:32:55 AM
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Adam, please be a bear. :/

It seemed like a good idea at the time.
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March 16, 2013, 04:47:20 AM
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Shit. He's gone all in...

everyone bail  Cry

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March 16, 2013, 05:08:41 AM
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guys this is to funny....


so i watched this new video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLVJwaMjZIs

and i made this video response

http://youtu.be/56B6eyYQ2kA


did i go over board? OPS! oh well... more lolz for you  Cheesy

Nice video (audio?) Adam! But the guy has a point

90% of this forum talks about the island they're going to buy with their riches. The few who say they just want out of FIAT are some of the loudest cheerleading hypersters. GO GO GO! while the newbs are lining their pockets. You know who you are! Wink Ironic how they're so concerned about the FIAT VALUATION of their coins...
Most of the buy and holders here don't buy anymore. They are just higher in the pyramid, getting rich off the latecomers.

But, wait! Before you think you got me pegged as some butthurt n0ob who missed the train (I know at least four of you will...), I mined all my coins in '10, '11 and early '12... I've never sunk a single Penny into this market. You aren't making any money off of me.  Kiss
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March 16, 2013, 05:26:24 AM
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guys this is to funny....


so i watched this new video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLVJwaMjZIs

and i made this video response

http://youtu.be/56B6eyYQ2kA


did i go over board? OPS! oh well... more lolz for you  Cheesy

Nice video (audio?) Adam! But the guy has a point

90% of this forum talks about the island they're going to buy with their riches. The few who say they just want out of FIAT are some of the loudest cheerleading hypersters. GO GO GO! while the newbs are lining their pockets. You know who you are! Wink Ironic how they're so concerned about the FIAT VALUATION of their coins...
Most of the buy and holders here don't buy anymore. They are just higher in the pyramid, getting rich off the latecomers.

But, wait! Before you think you got me pegged as some butthurt n0ob who missed the train (I know at least four of you will...), I mined all my coins in '10, '11 and early '12... I've never sunk a single Penny into this market. You aren't making any money off of me.  Kiss
Are you willing to prove that?

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March 16, 2013, 06:06:37 AM
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guys this is to funny....


so i watched this new video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLVJwaMjZIs

and i made this video response

http://youtu.be/56B6eyYQ2kA


did i go over board? OPS! oh well... more lolz for you  Cheesy

Nice video (audio?) Adam! But the guy has a point

90% of this forum talks about the island they're going to buy with their riches. The few who say they just want out of FIAT are some of the loudest cheerleading hypersters. GO GO GO! while the newbs are lining their pockets. You know who you are! Wink Ironic how they're so concerned about the FIAT VALUATION of their coins...
Most of the buy and holders here don't buy anymore. They are just higher in the pyramid, getting rich off the latecomers.

But, wait! Before you think you got me pegged as some butthurt n0ob who missed the train (I know at least four of you will...), I mined all my coins in '10, '11 and early '12... I've never sunk a single Penny into this market. You aren't making any money off of me.  Kiss

Are you willing to prove that?

Come on, if you're as smart as you think you are, you can find all the proof you need  Wink
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March 16, 2013, 06:49:00 AM
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please forgive me for a shameless ad:

I'm FIRE-SELLING 55 Casascius 1 BTC Coins. Prices are graduated starting at BTC 1.00 incl. shipping.

It's a pretty good offer (even if you're not among the first to order), so I thought I'd let my fellow wallers know of it.



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March 16, 2013, 06:55:23 AM
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please forgive me for a shameless ad:

I'm FIRE-SELLING 55 Casascius 1 BTC Coins. Prices are graduated starting at BTC 1.00 incl. shipping.

It's a pretty good offer (even if you're not among the first to order), so I thought I'd let my fellow wallers know of it.




Not at all. Good deal

It seemed like a good idea at the time.
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March 16, 2013, 07:07:23 AM
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Are you willing to prove that?
Come on, if you're as smart as you think you are, you can find all the proof you need  Wink
That was all the proof I needed.

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