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February 28, 2013, 01:37:07 PM |
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Part of it might be that the early investors you speak of are all but cashed out.
Source to back up your generalizing statement? I have no source. Which is why I used the word "might". I was speculating, like everyone else in this thread. |
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February 28, 2013, 01:37:20 PM |
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Is Adam a bull again? Yeah, we need bears to slaughter. How about proudhon? lucif?
You rang? This is surely the top, and a bubble pop is probably just around the corner. Ok, I think I see where you're coming from. You believe in the "doughnut" shaped market and that we'll eventually go up from $30 and wrap all the way around back to zero. But as everyone else knows, a Proudhun posting is the clearest sign that we're still in rally mode. As soon as Proudhorn turns Bullish, I'm selling  |
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February 28, 2013, 02:04:11 PM |
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I agree but wonder if it is one or two hedge funds who are expecting 100 hedge funds to move in soon and are buying all the cheap coins now. Honestly if no one wants to sell BTC and millions get poured in daily the price will get crazy stupid quickly.
+1 And there are small investors coming in also, little by little. I DON'T mean the 420 kids at SR either!  I am done selling, because whenever i sold, i lost money, no matter which exchange i was using from 2010 to present day. The MtG rate is manipulated now, but at least we can see it, unlike back in the days of the MtG dark pool shenanigans. Also, it seems to me that B doesn't yet lend itself to tech analysis by anyone except market movers, MtG staff, and traders who go to church regularly, because the biggest possible players are not in the B market YET. |
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February 28, 2013, 02:07:43 PM |
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I agree but wonder if it is one or two hedge funds who are expecting 100 hedge funds to move in soon and are buying all the cheap coins now. Honestly if no one wants to sell BTC and millions get poured in daily the price will get crazy stupid quickly.
can you post here the definition for a hedge fund and a short description of how a hedge funds work just to know we are talking about the same thing bah u did it on the easy way :/ hedge funds get their name because they hedge their positions on the market example go long on oil futures and long on airlines stocks 1 if oil goes up let the oil futures run in profits cut the airlines stock 2 if oil goes down cut the futures and let the airlines stock run in profits how you hedge in bitcoin world ? |
Los desesperados publican que lo inventó el rey que rabió, porque todo son en el rabias y mas rabias, disgustos y mas disgustos, pezares y mas pezares; si el que compra algunas partidas vé que baxan, rabia de haver comprado; si suben, rabia de que no compró mas; si compra, suben, vende, gana y buelan aun á mas alto precio del que ha vendido; rabia de que vendió por menor precio: si no compra ni vende y ván subiendo, rabia de que haviendo tenido impulsos de comprar, no llegó á lograr los impulsos; si van baxando, rabia de que, haviendo tenido amagos de vender, no se resolvió á gozar los amagos; si le dan algun consejo y acierta, rabia de que no se lo dieron antes; si yerra, rabia de que se lo dieron; con que todo son inquietudes, todo arrepentimientos, tododelirios, luchando siempre lo insufrible con lo feliz, lo indomito con lo tranquilo y lo rabioso con lo deleytable.
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February 28, 2013, 02:23:55 PM |
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think physical fiat is going to fail?
sadly that aint going to happen in my life time :/ so dont bet for it |
Los desesperados publican que lo inventó el rey que rabió, porque todo son en el rabias y mas rabias, disgustos y mas disgustos, pezares y mas pezares; si el que compra algunas partidas vé que baxan, rabia de haver comprado; si suben, rabia de que no compró mas; si compra, suben, vende, gana y buelan aun á mas alto precio del que ha vendido; rabia de que vendió por menor precio: si no compra ni vende y ván subiendo, rabia de que haviendo tenido impulsos de comprar, no llegó á lograr los impulsos; si van baxando, rabia de que, haviendo tenido amagos de vender, no se resolvió á gozar los amagos; si le dan algun consejo y acierta, rabia de que no se lo dieron antes; si yerra, rabia de que se lo dieron; con que todo son inquietudes, todo arrepentimientos, tododelirios, luchando siempre lo insufrible con lo feliz, lo indomito con lo tranquilo y lo rabioso con lo deleytable.
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February 28, 2013, 02:24:46 PM
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hedge funds get their name because they hedge their positions on the market
example go long on oil futures and long on airlines stocks
1 if oil goes up let the oil futures run in profits cut the airlines stock
2 if oil goes down cut the futures and let the airlines stock run in profits
how you hedge in bitcoin world ?
Originally hedge funds used to hedge, as in your example, but nowadays any strategy goes. Being long in BTC is a possibility. The problem however, is that they normally want to buy financial products within a strict legal framework. The Coinlab deal is a first step towards making this possible, the ultimate goal would be a Bitcoin ETF. |
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February 28, 2013, 02:25:59 PM |
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You still have a chance to get out.
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Digital money you say?
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February 28, 2013, 02:27:15 PM |
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Is Adam a bull again? Yeah, we need bears to slaughter. How about proudhon? lucif?
You rang? This is surely the top, and a bubble pop is probably just around the corner. Ok, I think I see where you're coming from. You believe in the "doughnut" shaped market and that we'll eventually go up from $30 and wrap all the way around back to zero. But as everyone else knows, a Proudhun posting is the clearest sign that we're still in rally mode. As soon as Proudhorn turns Bullish, I'm selling +1 You just beat me to it. If he ever turns bullish I will consider it the end of days. Like seeing the same black cat walk by twice in a row. |
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February 28, 2013, 02:30:06 PM |
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Originally hedge funds used to hedge, as in your example, but nowadays any strategy goes. Being long in BTC is a possibility. The problem however, is that they normally want to buy financial product within a strict legal framework. The Coinlab deal is a first step towards making this possible, the ultimate goal would be a Bitcoin ETF.
:/ that will make me extremely sad |
Los desesperados publican que lo inventó el rey que rabió, porque todo son en el rabias y mas rabias, disgustos y mas disgustos, pezares y mas pezares; si el que compra algunas partidas vé que baxan, rabia de haver comprado; si suben, rabia de que no compró mas; si compra, suben, vende, gana y buelan aun á mas alto precio del que ha vendido; rabia de que vendió por menor precio: si no compra ni vende y ván subiendo, rabia de que haviendo tenido impulsos de comprar, no llegó á lograr los impulsos; si van baxando, rabia de que, haviendo tenido amagos de vender, no se resolvió á gozar los amagos; si le dan algun consejo y acierta, rabia de que no se lo dieron antes; si yerra, rabia de que se lo dieron; con que todo son inquietudes, todo arrepentimientos, tododelirios, luchando siempre lo insufrible con lo feliz, lo indomito con lo tranquilo y lo rabioso con lo deleytable.
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February 28, 2013, 02:38:38 PM |
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btw i am looking for a reversal @35
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Los desesperados publican que lo inventó el rey que rabió, porque todo son en el rabias y mas rabias, disgustos y mas disgustos, pezares y mas pezares; si el que compra algunas partidas vé que baxan, rabia de haver comprado; si suben, rabia de que no compró mas; si compra, suben, vende, gana y buelan aun á mas alto precio del que ha vendido; rabia de que vendió por menor precio: si no compra ni vende y ván subiendo, rabia de que haviendo tenido impulsos de comprar, no llegó á lograr los impulsos; si van baxando, rabia de que, haviendo tenido amagos de vender, no se resolvió á gozar los amagos; si le dan algun consejo y acierta, rabia de que no se lo dieron antes; si yerra, rabia de que se lo dieron; con que todo son inquietudes, todo arrepentimientos, tododelirios, luchando siempre lo insufrible con lo feliz, lo indomito con lo tranquilo y lo rabioso con lo deleytable.
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February 28, 2013, 02:47:35 PM |
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btw i am looking for a reversal @35
to what? $40 |
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February 28, 2013, 02:48:04 PM |
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btw i am looking for a reversal @35
to what? to a correction to this rally |
Los desesperados publican que lo inventó el rey que rabió, porque todo son en el rabias y mas rabias, disgustos y mas disgustos, pezares y mas pezares; si el que compra algunas partidas vé que baxan, rabia de haver comprado; si suben, rabia de que no compró mas; si compra, suben, vende, gana y buelan aun á mas alto precio del que ha vendido; rabia de que vendió por menor precio: si no compra ni vende y ván subiendo, rabia de que haviendo tenido impulsos de comprar, no llegó á lograr los impulsos; si van baxando, rabia de que, haviendo tenido amagos de vender, no se resolvió á gozar los amagos; si le dan algun consejo y acierta, rabia de que no se lo dieron antes; si yerra, rabia de que se lo dieron; con que todo son inquietudes, todo arrepentimientos, tododelirios, luchando siempre lo insufrible con lo feliz, lo indomito con lo tranquilo y lo rabioso con lo deleytable.
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February 28, 2013, 02:49:21 PM |
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Originally hedge funds used to hedge, as in your example, but nowadays any strategy goes. Being long in BTC is a possibility. The problem however, is that they normally want to buy financial product within a strict legal framework. The Coinlab deal is a first step towards making this possible, the ultimate goal would be a Bitcoin ETF.
:/ that will make me extremely sad Why is that? A Bitcoin ETF will make it possible for immense amounts of fiat to flow into Bitcoin. |
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February 28, 2013, 03:11:50 PM |
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You still have a chance to get out.
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February 28, 2013, 03:12:49 PM |
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Part of it might be that the early investors you speak of are all but cashed out.
Source to back up your generalizing statement? I have no source. Which is why I used the word "might". I was speculating, like everyone else in this thread. I think it's 99% true, the early guys got in at $0.001/BTC, and when BTC hit $10, any sensible guy will cash out for a 1000X profit, even if BTC reach $100 that's just 10X more profit, why would they risk it all for 10X more profit, when they already got 1000X. |
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February 28, 2013, 03:15:11 PM |
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Part of it might be that the early investors you speak of are all but cashed out.
Source to back up your generalizing statement? I have no source. Which is why I used the word "might". I was speculating, like everyone else in this thread. I think it's 99% true, the early guys got in at $0.001/BTC, and when BTC hit $10, any sensible guy will cash out for a 1000X profit, even if BTC reach $100 that's just 10X more profit, why would they risk it all for 10X more profit, when they already got 1000X. Because then they'd have 10,000x profit? Sounds great to me. |
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February 28, 2013, 03:18:06 PM |
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Part of it might be that the early investors you speak of are all but cashed out.
Source to back up your generalizing statement? I have no source. Which is why I used the word "might". I was speculating, like everyone else in this thread. I think it's 99% true, the early guys got in at $0.001/BTC, and when BTC hit $10, any sensible guy will cash out for a 1000X profit, even if BTC reach $100 that's just 10X more profit, why would they risk it all for 10X more profit, when they already got 1000X. 0.001 to 10 is 10000x not 1000x |
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February 28, 2013, 03:21:55 PM |
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btw i am looking for a reversal @35
What did you used for that? Tea leaf? Horoscop? Tarrot? Where is the rationnal behind? |
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February 28, 2013, 03:28:18 PM |
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btw i am looking for a reversal @35
What did you used for that? Tea leaf? Horoscop? Tarrot? Where is the rationnal behind? Gut feeling?  |
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February 28, 2013, 03:43:04 PM |
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Part of it might be that the early investors you speak of are all but cashed out.
Source to back up your generalizing statement? I have no source. Which is why I used the word "might". I was speculating, like everyone else in this thread. I think it's 99% true, the early guys got in at $0.001/BTC, and when BTC hit $10, any sensible guy will cash out for a 1000X profit, even if BTC reach $100 that's just 10X more profit, why would they risk it all for 10X more profit, when they already got 1000X. If you owned something which made a thousand-fold profit in a year, you'd be an idiot to sell it all. If you just sold half you're suddenly a well-to-do man and can still dream of one day being part of the new, wealthy elite. |
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