GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)

[Crestington]

LOL at HJG tweeting badbitcoin's drunken shill ramblings like it's the paragon of journalism.

https://twitter.com/mpampa12/status/581788442666881024

Don't you mean paradigm?

Edit: Actually both would work.

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[subseaguru]

This imbecile Wildfirebill is promoting stamping bills with Paycoin.com on Paycoin.com/talk now. He has taken his "investigation" a step further and has now concluded that the "U.S. Government was the first to implement the where's George Been stamp". I swear I could not make this stuff up even if I tried.


http://talk.paycoin.com/discussion/462/paycoin-stamp/p1#Comment_5062
Archive: https://archive.today/QMclE

Hard to believe a bill made it through 27 states without ever going through the banking system.  Any marked or damaged bills get pulled from circulation and sent for incineration.  

What am I saying it's impossible to believe anything those people say.

Then it's probably had cocaine snorted through it twice. Maybe even by Garza himself.

apparently they cant do an internet search to get the history of something or even to make sure its legal. not that i want to see our legal/prison system clogged with morons.

[Morguk]

So what's happened recently? What's the TLDR yo?

[subseaguru]

here the txid's for the hacked accounts.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[Crestington]

here the txid's for the hacked accounts.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From what reference?

[subseaguru]

here the txid's for the hacked accounts.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From what reference?

paycoin of course
http://talk.paycoin.com/discussion/476/tx-id-s-from-paycoin-wallet-hack/p1

[GAW_DUMP_ANALYSIS]

So what's happened recently? What's the TLDR yo?

TL; DR - Homero still scammer, alphabet agencies closing in, paycoin value in toilet, GAW shutting down Hashtalk, Pastor Adam will be rooming with Josh in the pokey for money laundering, Josh is having hissy fits that no media outlets except badbitcoin like him, hashlets program official decommissioned, rumors of GAW going back to some sort of cloud mining venture, debuted shitty website called Coinstand that will sell products at 95% off but no one can actually use. Also, SoonTM.  

[Crestington]

here the txid's for the hacked accounts.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From what reference?

paycoin of course
http://talk.paycoin.com/discussion/476/tx-id-s-from-paycoin-wallet-hack/p1

Ok I went through them, average withdrawal would be around 130 XPY per transaction and over a period of some 6 hours, I couldn't be bothered adding them all up individually but approximately 4-5k XPY. First I have a couple questions, Why over a period of 6 hours? and why wouldn't the hackers take everything? When NXT was hacked on BTER, 50 million NXT gone, Mintpal hack for VeriCoin, 30% of the entire Coin, BTER hack for BTC last month, all their Cold storage,

PayCoin foundation wallet hacked? 5,000 total XPY stolen over 3 periods in 6 hours over multiple blocks? this doesn't make sense to me.

[vObh0n]6W]

And still fucks like you persist with your "takes bribes" accusations. Here's an idea: try to bribe David Parker and let us know how it goes.

Didn't someone try that already?
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2amlwa/do_you_vote_on_rbitcoin_articles_you_absolutely/?limit=500

Oh yeah, they found that "David Parker" takes bribes.

The original article is no longer on Medium.

Anyway, as was discussed in the Reddit thread, our Sponsored Stories are clearly marked as such. They're more like a textual ad up to 500 words long. They are not published with regular news, and don't even go into the regular mix of news stories. So whatever, if you call that bribing, even though it happens completely above-board, then your definition of bribing is clearly not in line with the actual definition, which describes something more behind-the-scenes and sinister.

Article can be found at https://archive.today/lfZ76

[vObh0n]6W]

I wonder how many real accounts are left on hashtalk since it's likely a good majority of them are fake accounts considering there is so much banning going on. My guess would be about 30 real people?

Sounds about right. But don't tell Mr. Coins that, he is still claiming "thousands of people" are active on HT.

In my scrape there were around 900 users, but that includes all accounts. The number of active users is probably a fraction of that.

[vObh0n]6W]

Here's some proof that this was customers, at least partially. I followed the transaction Paul linked until it led to https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?474805.htm. That sends 3.21 XPY to PMinemanWoBbpPhxeoV7Zy8kND6nMZJMSR.htm. That struck me as a vanity address, so I googled it, and came across https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:10aSkaqC_JIJ:https://hashtalk.org/topic/31206/wallet-minting%3Fpage%3D1+&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us. (https://archive.today/0FT9O in case it goes expires).

So this address was in someone's sig over a month ago. Does that qualify as an "average Joe" who got a withdrawal, or did I somehow make them up or something?

Also, they said they were manually confirming transactions. These could have been from the backlog.

But go on denying the evidence, it's cute.

We have concrete evidence Josh has been dumping coins from the US Government. Emails, transaction logs, forensic accountants etc.

It will be in a future report. His own words.

I didn't say there wasn't any dumping going on, I said that the particular transactions Paul was pointing to were likely from withdrawals.

[vObh0n]6W]

So, you mean that ~2,000,000+ XPY were not withdrawn by Paybase users since 3-27? But, but, ikeboy says that is what is going on, and he is known to be consistently right. Oh, wait a second, no he isn't. I figured that some HT user would come forward saying that some address was theirs, but ikeboy managed to spot one that is real and not just a shuffle or accumulator address. That leaves all of those that are connected to each other, which accounts for the vast majority of transactions going on. So the mix/shuffle> send to exchanges is being done right along side of the actual Paybase transactions from the same GAW wallets.

I didn't say 2,000,000 were withdrawn. Again, a transaction withdrawing 5 xpy can show up as a 40,000 transaction, and does many times. 50 withdrawals for small amounts all done from a large wallet would show up as 2,000,000 moved.

Could you identify which addresses are the "accumulators" you're talking about?

[subseaguru]

Ok I went through them, average withdrawal would be around 130 XPY per transaction and over a period of some 6 hours, I couldn't be bothered adding them all up individually but approximately 4-5k XPY. First I have a couple questions, Why over a period of 6 hours? and why wouldn't the hackers take everything? When NXT was hacked on BTER, 50 million NXT gone, Mintpal hack for VeriCoin, 30% of the entire Coin, BTER hack for BTC last month, all their Cold storage,

PayCoin foundation wallet hacked? 5,000 total XPY stolen over 3 periods in 6 hours over multiple blocks? this doesn't make sense to me.

from the sounds of it, people were demanding it and someone caved. i guess sciborg was given the id's and decided to post them. whether this was just a tactic for stalling or just a taste of the activity, i don't know. these were posted about an hour ago so there maybe more coming later. im guessing sciborg is just passing info as he gets it.

[vObh0n]6W]

People waking up.

[suchmoon]

PayCoin foundation wallet hacked? 5,000 total XPY stolen over 3 periods in 6 hours over multiple blocks? this doesn't make sense to me.

Without knowing how many total users and coins they had, and what was the nature of the hack it's impossible to say if this makes sense. If it's some kind of SQL injection where the hacker had to guess usernames/emails to trigger withdrawals then yes, it could have been a slow painful drain of a few thousand XPY.

[suchmoon]

Ya, really trying to clear up his rep.  Just stuck up for Josh Garza.  Looks like that post got trolled by Carsen Klock.

QFT. Did a real 360 didn't he  

[CryptoBuds]

Ya, really trying to clear up his rep.  Just stuck up for Josh Garza.  Looks like that post got trolled by Carsen Klock.

QFT. Did a real 360 didn't he  

I would venture to say that little Joshy-poo flexed his NDA muscles at the little fella and he done ran an got scared...

[strangerdanger101]

People like Carsen with personality disorders don't change they only pretend to change.

[coinits]

why exactly? CF has a proven track record

i would rather have them protect their sources to the fullest, also its not information that would make a difference

Listening to mike on this podcast and I actually take that back. He does a good job explaining why they do things the way they do.

What podcast? I did not see a link.

I am assuming this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmz1Y6EVJng

Yes it is. I am watching it now.

Excellent interview. On problem I have with it is saying not to tell the GAWTARDS that they are full of stupid. I agreed with that at first. But there comes a point when all that is left are the scammers, the greedy, and the stupid. They are all fair game to be ridiculed now.

Mike has some great ideas on how to move responsible journalism forward.

Hey Mike you can offer opinions. Not in articles but in Editorials. People always want to hear and read the thoughts, ideas, and opinions of News Editors. You just have to make it clear that it is an OpEd piece.

To the Interviewer. You are good but isolate yourself from those mutts. Dead air and barking do not cut it.

L8R

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Ya, really trying to clear up his rep.  Just stuck up for Josh Garza.  Looks like that post got trolled by Carsen Klock.

QFT. Did a real 360 didn't he  

I would venture to say that little Joshy-poo flexed his NDA muscles at the little fella and he done ran an got scared...

Or Carsen got what he wanted: threaten to say a few things, and get a bounty.