GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)

[ladrx]

Oh good a new way of transferring paycoin from scammee to scammers without any guarantee of a return on investment. Brilliant!

[GIFOS]

So anyone with a wallet and added Prime keys code to their wallet conf file can have a xpy money printing press also?

If true I guess this would mean the inflation rate of the coin will go up like a rocket and price will go opposite sharply downward!

There will be thousands more shitcoins if they do not fork the coin asap.

[SockPuppetAccount]

These appear to be real PC private keys.

Someone said they were public keys, someone would have used them already

They are private keys, and all 13 are valid PC privkeys.

Come on! We need somebody to step up here and use these.

I believe the legal implications have been pointed out already?  Regardless I'd ask a lawyer before touching those. 

On the technical side, isn't there a minimum coin requirement to use the keys?

What happens if more than one node claims the same key?

How will consensus and orphaned blocks be handled for the stake if those keys are used?

What do the keys actually give you?

I have no idea.  No one around here has enough XPY to make use of them.  I don't give a shit about my twitter rep so I'll just tweet that pic as often as possible til someone tests it out.

Oh wait!  The legal implications!

Josh isn't even in jail yet.  I'm sure the cyber police give so many fucks that people are using private keys from a scam coin to destroy said scam coin.  THE CONSEQUENCES WILL NEVER BE THE SAME!!!

[mutha]

ROFL This is from paycoin slack.

info@naturalbornclickers.co.za

dodo [3:09 AM]
Is it true the crypto nazis at btctalk are now under investigation for criminal acts of industrial sabotage just saw at cryptsy

dodo [3:10 AM]
who made these people the crypto nazi police that decide whats right or wrong and all the time they wish to dictate to others what to do (edited)

dodo [3:12 AM]
for their sakes I hope buttcream stays cheap wuahahaa

dodo [3:44 AM]
 just saw it on cryptsy chat a while ago, no link its gone already, but when I google industrial sabotage any attempt to derail or meddle in another's business is likely to be classified as industrial sabotage and a criminal act with definite jail time due

dodo [4:11 AM]
 Thanks for the link but not seen that before , what I saw was on cryptsy I think more likely referring to the peeps attacking paycoin and now cryptsy and acting like they are the self appointed judge, jury and executioner of what they consider as right or wrong, rather silly engaging in criminal behaviour with all the authorities watching already dumb dumb dumb, more likely that a few others might make the big time hit parade before JG or BV specially if they don't have the same kind of financial and legal backing to fight industrial sabotage claims,  not my butt on the line so I think i leave and stay away

dodo [4:53 AM]
 lots of folks neck deep in the shit already if you look at this, even more likely knowing that investigations are already ongoing and the eyes are already on it http://definitions.uslegal.com/s/sabotage/

dodo [5:47 AM]
^^^ Breaking rocks in the hot sun mwhuahaha (1) Whoever, with intent that his or her act shall, or with reason to believe that it may, injure, interfere with, interrupt, supplant, nullify, impair, or obstruct the owner's or operator's management, operation, or control of any agricultural, stockraising, lumbering, mining, quarrying, fishing, manufacturing, transportation, mercantile, or building enterprise, or any other public or private business or commercial enterprise, wherein any person is employed for wage, shall willfully damage or destroy, or attempt or threaten to damage or destroy, any property whatsoever, or shall unlawfully take or retain, or attempt or threaten unlawfully to take or retain, possession or control of any property, instrumentality, machine, mechanism, or appliance used in such business or enterprise, shall be guilty of criminal sabotage."

Unauthorized access to a computer
Unauthorized access with intent to commit an offence  
Unauthorized modification of data https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsS0cvTxU-8


dodo [5:52 AM]
The man is watching think before you post unless you think that you can outwit the 3 letter acronyms. The agents of descent are busy busy busy, they hate crypto; divided we stand? ... (edited)

I don't have a badge but there are others here who do.

LOL really I didnt know that!

One must cautious with who they talk to on the innerwebs!
Not only are there people with badges there may even be some Barristers, solicitors, lawyers, regulators and other scary people on the innerwebs!

But dont you have to have an successful industry before you can "sabotage it"?

[SockPuppetAccount]

This is really funny. You don't need to own any paycoin, just import the private key in the wallet. This private key is a number you saw on the internet, and a number cannot be patented. You can write them into the coinbase string of a block in some shitcoin and many people will have a copy of it stored.

Don't let them intimidate you, if I write my gmail password in my github repo then its my fault if people look into my emails. That's not different here.

If you don't have any coins what would your shiny new prime controller do?  How would you know if it's doing anything? How would you know if the key is even still valid?

I don't know.  Why are you trying to discourage people from experimenting to figure it out?

[noerc]

This is really funny. You don't need to own any paycoin, just import the private key in the wallet. This private key is a number you saw on the internet, and a number cannot be patented. You can write them into the coinbase string of a block in some shitcoin and many people will have a copy of it stored.

Don't let them intimidate you, if I write my gmail password in my github repo then its my fault if people look into my emails. That's not different here.

If you don't have any coins what would your shiny new prime controller do?  How would you know if it's doing anything? How would you know if the key is even still valid?

Its the private key, so every coin which is currently on the controller will be in your possession. I would not send a coin there, probably not even XPY, cause they are $20 each you know ....

I should clarify: Although this is super hilarious, I am against causing real damage here, because it will again be the fools still following it who will suffer in the end. Burning some XPY from the big controllers would teach them a reasonable lesson. But I will surely not sync such a blockchain for this.

[miaviator]

I have no idea.  No one around here has enough XPY to make use of them.  I don't give a shit about my twitter rep so I'll just tweet that pic as often as possible til someone tests it out.

Oh wait!  The legal implications!

Josh isn't even in jail yet.  I'm sure the cyber police give so many fucks that people are using private keys from a scam coin to destroy said scam coin.  THE CONSEQUENCES WILL NEVER BE THE SAME!!!

ROFL ^^

[miaviator]

This is really funny. You don't need to own any paycoin, just import the private key in the wallet. This private key is a number you saw on the internet, and a number cannot be patented. You can write them into the coinbase string of a block in some shitcoin and many people will have a copy of it stored.

Don't let them intimidate you, if I write my gmail password in my github repo then its my fault if people look into my emails. That's not different here.

If you don't have any coins what would your shiny new prime controller do?  How would you know if it's doing anything? How would you know if the key is even still valid?

I don't know.  Why are you trying to discourage people from experimenting to figure it out?

EDITED:
I am not trying to discourage anyone from testing within the bounds of the law.  I am also not trying to encourage anyone.

I'm simply inquiring as to what the purpose and use of these keys is.  What would happen if they were used.  What the technical implications are.  Etc. Etc.

I have no XPY and no desire to have XPY at the moment so I couldn't test it if I wanted to.

[bitpop]

I can't afford paycoin at these $20 prices but I have staking ready. Anyone want to send me some to test?

[miaviator]

This is really funny. You don't need to own any paycoin, just import the private key in the wallet. This private key is a number you saw on the internet, and a number cannot be patented. You can write them into the coinbase string of a block in some shitcoin and many people will have a copy of it stored.

Don't let them intimidate you, if I write my gmail password in my github repo then its my fault if people look into my emails. That's not different here.

If you don't have any coins what would your shiny new prime controller do?  How would you know if it's doing anything? How would you know if the key is even still valid?

Its the private key, so every coin which is currently on the controller will be in your possession. I would not send a coin there, probably not even XPY, cause they are $20 each you know ....

I should clarify: Although this is super hilarious, I am against causing real damage here, because it will again be the fools still following it who will suffer in the end. Burning some XPY from the big controllers would teach them a reasonable lesson. But I will surely not sync such a blockchain for this.

How could it be the private key to the wallet?  The wallet address changes and regenerates at each stake and coins are moved to new addresses within the wallets keypool often.   I don't think this gives you access to the principal on the controllers.  This is one of my questions though, does this give you access to stake or access to the wallet itself or both?

[HashieNewb]

This is really funny. You don't need to own any paycoin, just import the private key in the wallet. This private key is a number you saw on the internet, and a number cannot be patented. You can write them into the coinbase string of a block in some shitcoin and many people will have a copy of it stored.

Don't let them intimidate you, if I write my gmail password in my github repo then its my fault if people look into my emails. That's not different here.

TBH anyone who doesn't have paycoin probably doesn't have a wallet, but yea legal this and bullshit that shouldn't stop anyone who wants to play.

[bitpop]

This is really funny. You don't need to own any paycoin, just import the private key in the wallet. This private key is a number you saw on the internet, and a number cannot be patented. You can write them into the coinbase string of a block in some shitcoin and many people will have a copy of it stored.

Don't let them intimidate you, if I write my gmail password in my github repo then its my fault if people look into my emails. That's not different here.

If you don't have any coins what would your shiny new prime controller do?  How would you know if it's doing anything? How would you know if the key is even still valid?

I don't know.  Why are you trying to discourage people from experimenting to figure it out?

I am not trying to discourage anyone.  I am also not trying to encourage anyone.

I'm simply inquiring as to what the purpose and use of these keys is.  What would happen if they were used.  What the technical implications are.  Etc. Etc.

I have no XPY and no desire to have XPY at the moment so I couldn't test it if I wanted to.

I thought you worked at the paycoin foundation

[Paul Revere]

This is really funny. You don't need to own any paycoin, just import the private key in the wallet. This private key is a number you saw on the internet, and a number cannot be patented. You can write them into the coinbase string of a block in some shitcoin and many people will have a copy of it stored.

Don't let them intimidate you, if I write my gmail password in my github repo then its my fault if people look into my emails. That's not different here.

If you don't have any coins what would your shiny new prime controller do?  How would you know if it's doing anything? How would you know if the key is even still valid?

I don't know.  Why are you trying to discourage people from experimenting to figure it out?

A question: I was under the impression that a minimum of 125,000 XPY was required to get the insane stake rate in "Prime Controllers". Would that be the same when using these private keys?

Also, an observation from a post about Gara's recent new "Josh" account on Hashtalk: He is using a @.GAWminers.com Email. That would no longer be valid, correct? Signing up to his own forum with a spoof Email....

[miaviator]

I thought you worked at the paycoin foundation

No.

[miaviator]

A question: I was under the impression that a minimum of 125,000 XPY was required to get the insane stake rate in "Prime Controllers". Would that be the same when using these private keys?

This was the impression I had as well. 

[noerc]

This is really funny. You don't need to own any paycoin, just import the private key in the wallet. This private key is a number you saw on the internet, and a number cannot be patented. You can write them into the coinbase string of a block in some shitcoin and many people will have a copy of it stored.

Don't let them intimidate you, if I write my gmail password in my github repo then its my fault if people look into my emails. That's not different here.

If you don't have any coins what would your shiny new prime controller do?  How would you know if it's doing anything? How would you know if the key is even still valid?

Its the private key, so every coin which is currently on the controller will be in your possession. I would not send a coin there, probably not even XPY, cause they are $20 each you know ....

I should clarify: Although this is super hilarious, I am against causing real damage here, because it will again be the fools still following it who will suffer in the end. Burning some XPY from the big controllers would teach them a reasonable lesson. But I will surely not sync such a blockchain for this.

How could it be the private key to the wallet?  The wallet address changes and regenerates at each stake and coins are moved to new addresses within the wallets keypool often.   I don't think this gives you access to the principal on the controllers.  This is one of my questions though, does this give you access to stake or access to the wallet itself or both?

This is a good point and I would need to look into the code now to confirm or deny this. Good possible that you will only see a fraction of the wallet balance after importing the priv keys.

[suchmoon]

This is a good point and I would need to look into the code now to confirm or deny this. Good possible that you will only see a fraction of the wallet balance after importing the priv keys.

According to research someone (Daffy?) did a while ago the PC keys are not XPY addresses. They are private keys supplied to the wallet daemon via command line or config file and allow any address in that wallet to stake at the higher rate. That's all. No minimum balance requirement or anything like that.

[ladrx]

So BigWoody is pals with Josh IRL? Also, LOL that Homero is still going to church. Maybe he should look into their confessional services, although he would be there for quite a while.

[bitpop]

This is really funny. You don't need to own any paycoin, just import the private key in the wallet. This private key is a number you saw on the internet, and a number cannot be patented. You can write them into the coinbase string of a block in some shitcoin and many people will have a copy of it stored.

Don't let them intimidate you, if I write my gmail password in my github repo then its my fault if people look into my emails. That's not different here.

If you don't have any coins what would your shiny new prime controller do?  How would you know if it's doing anything? How would you know if the key is even still valid?

Its the private key, so every coin which is currently on the controller will be in your possession. I would not send a coin there, probably not even XPY, cause they are $20 each you know ....

I should clarify: Although this is super hilarious, I am against causing real damage here, because it will again be the fools still following it who will suffer in the end. Burning some XPY from the big controllers would teach them a reasonable lesson. But I will surely not sync such a blockchain for this.

How could it be the private key to the wallet?  The wallet address changes and regenerates at each stake and coins are moved to new addresses within the wallets keypool often.   I don't think this gives you access to the principal on the controllers.  This is one of my questions though, does this give you access to stake or access to the wallet itself or both?

This is a good point and I would need to look into the code now to confirm or deny this. Good possible that you will only see a fraction of the wallet balance after importing the priv keys.

Isn't the key way too long to be for an address?

[miaviator]

Isn't the key way too long to be for an address?

This is a good point and I would need to look into the code now to confirm or deny this. Good possible that you will only see a fraction of the wallet balance after importing the priv keys.

According to research someone (Daffy?) did a while ago the PC keys are not XPY addresses. They are private keys supplied to the wallet daemon via command line or config file and allow any address in that wallet to stake at the higher rate. That's all. No minimum balance requirement or anything like that.

So the key is a secret identifier like an ID string not a wallet address?