GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)

[flyingplows]

I will be giving away all my PayCon I have accumulated over the coarse of being a part of it, the real amount will be closer to 900k or 15% of all PayCon. I'm giving mining back to the people.

Leave something to yourself good man Won't you stick to the rich CEO image? And you might want to fund some CON projects in future once it gets real value

[1714906802]

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[Crestington]

I will be giving away all my PayCon I have accumulated over the coarse of being a part of it, the real amount will be closer to 900k or 15% of all PayCon. I'm giving mining back to the people.

Leave something to yourself good man Won't you stick to the rich CEO image? And you might want to fund some CON projects in future once it gets real value

It needs to be done in order to create real value, I've been around these parts for this long and not going nowhere

[coinits]

I will be giving away all my PayCon I have accumulated over the coarse of being a part of it, the real amount will be closer to 900k or 15% of all PayCon. I'm giving mining back to the people.

Leave something to yourself good man Won't you stick to the rich CEO image? And you might want to fund some CON projects in future once it gets real value

It needs to be done in order to create real value, I've been around these parts for this long and not going nowhere

It's a con

[Paul Revere]

I was just thinking about the released 100% stake keys. It seems that the only thing stopping non-insiders from using these is the 125,000 coin requirement. When the XPY price hits .000008 BTC that = 1 BTC to have 125,000 XPY to make that work. At the current rate of price drop that should occur within about 2 months. Can you imagine most of the ~18,000,000 XPY that will exist by then being staked @ 100% / year compounded continuously since most people would not do the manual scrape every day? LMAO!

[5ick3uffalo]

I was just thinking about the released 100% stake keys. It seems that the only thing stopping non-insiders from using these is the 125,000 coin requirement. When the XPY price hits .000008 BTC that = 1 BTC to have 125,000 XPY to make that work. At the current rate of price drop that should occur within about 2 months. Can you imagine most of the ~18,000,000 XPY that will exist by then being staked @ 100% / year compounded continuously since most people would not do the manual scrape every day? LMAO!

Who and why got those private keys released again?

[Paul Revere]

I was just thinking about the released 100% stake keys. It seems that the only thing stopping non-insiders from using these is the 125,000 coin requirement. When the XPY price hits .000008 BTC that = 1 BTC to have 125,000 XPY to make that work. At the current rate of price drop that should occur within about 2 months. Can you imagine most of the ~18,000,000 XPY that will exist by then being staked @ 100% / year compounded continuously since most people would not do the manual scrape every day? LMAO!

Who and why got those private keys released again?

No idea who released them, but here they are:

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[bumpershot]

Crazy theory: The PC keys were released as a final pump attempt. Reaching the minimum number of required coins gives people a reason to buy the coin, thus keeping the value from plummeting for just a little bit longer.

Of course, it will crash harder now because of all the extra coins being generated, but this keeps it afloat just a little bit longer for someone to make a final dump.

[mgibson38]

A good place would be Bikini Atoll
https://www.bikiniatoll.com/
YA know, the best place for all those "boobs"

as long as they nuke it a few more times, haha

[Buckeye2015]

Crazy theory: The PC keys were released as a final pump attempt. Reaching the minimum number of required coins gives people a reason to buy the coin, thus keeping the value from plummeting for just a little bit longer.

Of course, it will crash harder now because of all the extra coins being generated, but this keeps it afloat just a little bit longer for someone to make a final dump.

If there weren't 10% and lower stakes involved in those keys, I would say a pissed off Homero released them.... but, I don't think it's a pump attempt since it had as much chance of tanking it among the Hashtalkers as anything else and those people selling off enough to fill the keys would be a downward pressure.

[Paul Revere]

Need to watch the top addresses to see if anyone is starting to use these already. there are only 8 with =>125,000 XPY that are not already Prime Cuntrollers. https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/#!rich

[bigvern]

everything going like mr garza planned with Big Vern of Cryptsy (thx PRODIGI). i dont remember if this was posted before

Yes, this email conversation took place.  No, we did not end up doing any part of the idea.   This was long before any of the drama took place, and even then I was not comfortable with the idea.    

I have no interest in GAW and they have no interest in Cryptsy.

Reading over this forum really reaffirms my decision not to frequent here.   There is so much misinformation and out of context information that this has really become more of a tabloid forum than one that actually helps users and the community.

Paul
BigVern

[Paul Revere]

everything going like mr garza planned with Big Vern of Cryptsy (thx PRODIGI). i dont remember if this was posted before

Yes, this email conversation took place.  No, we did not end up doing any part of the idea.   This was long before any of the drama took place, and even then I was not comfortable with the idea.    

I have no interest in GAW and they have no interest in Cryptsy.

Reading over this forum really reaffirms my decision not to frequent here.   There is so much misinformation and out of context information that this has really become more of a tabloid forum than one that actually helps users and the community.

Paul
BigVern

The tards on Hashtalk might be more to your liking to chit chat with. Quite possibly the worlds biggest collection of gullible idiots.

[bumpershot]

Reading over this forum really reaffirms my decision not to frequent here.   There is so much misinformation and out of context information that this has really become more of a tabloid forum than one that actually helps users and the community.

It's pretty common when faced with a question that has an embarrassing answer to just insult the questioner instead of answering.

Q: "Why do you have a hyperstaking wallet? You say it's for the security of the network, but how does a hyperstaking wallet help secure the network any more than a regular one?"

A: "This is such a tabloid forum. There's so much misinformation. You're nothing but a blight on the community."

[5ick3uffalo]

Homero: .. " and build a strategy to more basic users"

What does that mean  "more basic users"?

[alani123]

everything going like mr garza planned with Big Vern of Cryptsy (thx PRODIGI). i dont remember if this was posted before

Yes, this email conversation took place.  No, we did not end up doing any part of the idea.   This was long before any of the drama took place, and even then I was not comfortable with the idea.    

I have no interest in GAW and they have no interest in Cryptsy.

Reading over this forum really reaffirms my decision not to frequent here.   There is so much misinformation and out of context information that this has really become more of a tabloid forum than one that actually helps users and the community.

Paul
BigVern

And you're not the only one. Many people from big bitcoin services choose to not visit this forum. Accusations and rumors are part of human nature. It's expected to see both when a lot of people come together and form several communities. It's impossible to avoid them completely. Especially with bitcoin, a digitalised unit with monetary value. You can't expect everyone here to be mature and reasonable, that's impossible in the internet.

The fact that your exchange has been running for so long is what matters.

[Crestington]

Homero: .. " and build a strategy to more basic users"

What does that mean  "more basic users"?

People that don't understand Crypto and won't challenge what you say.

[Paul Revere]

Reading over this forum really reaffirms my decision not to frequent here.   There is so much misinformation and out of context information that this has really become more of a tabloid forum than one that actually helps users and the community.

It's pretty common when faced with a question that has an embarrassing answer to just insult the questioner instead of answering.

Q: "Why do you have a hyperstaking wallet? You say it's for the security of the network, but how does a hyperstaking wallet help secure the network any more than a regular one?"

A: "This is such a tabloid forum. There's so much misinformation. You're nothing but a blight on the community."

Eggzackry.

Q: Why does an exchange need a hyperstaking wallet to secure the network?

A:


From earlier and still relevant :

Regardless of whether a trader feels motivated to "do the right thing" and pull their coins from Cryptsy, at this point leaving them there is plain stupid. Whenever there is a sign of something wrong with an exchange it is usually followed by a sudden closure (read :HAxxorD!). SOMETHING is definitely wrong with this whole situation, and the Prime Cuntroller gift to Cryptsy is a sign of pure desperation. Cryptsy has obviously been deeply involved in the Paycoin scam right from the beginning and when it goes down Cryptsy probably will too. Anybody with a lick of common sense needs to get their coins out of Cryptsy immediately.

From the Cryptsy Vote thread:

I personally think that the entire concept of an exchange being involved this deeply with an obvious scam is an affront to the entire Crypto Community. Having a "vote" to decide whether they are going to openly and actively take part in the massive fraud scheme known as Paycoin is a fucking insult to anyone with more than one braincell and an ounce of integrity.

The best way to cast a vote against this ridiculous conflict of interest , that may very well also be criminal, would be to remove ALL coins from Cryptsy. Fuck em. There is no shortage of shitcoin exchanges.

Here is where to cast your vote:Click HERE to vote

To show support for decency in the Crypto World, pull ALL coins from Cryptsy.

If you like the people in charge of your coins and your personal financial information to be directly involved in the largest Shitcoin Scam ever (Paycoin XPY), then keep your coins there. Also keep in mind that something is definitely wrong with Cryptsy, and if you decide to keep your coins there it is quite possible you will end up losing them, and when it happens you will be getting exactly what you deserve.

[suchmoon]

Yes, this email conversation took place.  No, we did not end up doing any part of the idea.   This was long before any of the drama took place, and even then I was not comfortable with the idea.    

I have no interest in GAW and they have no interest in Cryptsy.

Reading over this forum really reaffirms my decision not to frequent here.   There is so much misinformation and out of context information that this has really become more of a tabloid forum than one that actually helps users and the community.

Paul
BigVern

There was another e-mail where you personally promised Mr. Garza to look into a potential issue with CFTC. Isn't it kind of unusual for an exchange CEO to do so?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.msg11224040#msg11224040

Happened way after the other conversation, and way into the drama.

Edit: oh, and the adventures of your CTO, also very interesting in the context.

[5ick3uffalo]

Reading over this forum really reaffirms my decision not to frequent here.   There is so much misinformation and out of context information that this has really become more of a tabloid forum than one that actually helps users and the community.

Q: "Why do you have a hyperstaking wallet? You say it's for the security of the network, but how does a hyperstaking wallet help secure the network any more than a regular one?"

Yeah, right an hyperstaking exchange wallet helping secure network


The only reason they took the hyperstaking wallet is dollar signs in their eyes, they are a business after all.
They care Security of Poopcoin network sooo much
Cryptsy is not stupid, they know damn well PayCoin is not only an primecontroller powered  shitcoin, 97% premined scamcoin, too

[Xian01]

Reading over this forum really reaffirms my decision not to frequent here.  

The only people who should be weary of frequenting these forums, are those who would try to perpetuate fraud and conduct unscrupulous behavior at the expense of this community, and being called out on it.

I guess we can make a fair assumption as to which camp you belong in.