GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)

[miaviator]

A short muggle starting with the online handle josg21 to, allegedly, ■■■■■ about boob jobs (plastic surgeons) and poor service Mr Homero Garza has since changed to the handle GAWCEO. A while later after tainting the handle GAWCEO a change was made to MrCEO and minerorigin which exist in parallel. In order to, allegedly, attempt confusion over his real name Homero Joshua Garza uses his middle name and mixes up aliases so he is commonly known as Josh Garza or Joshua Garza. On several patents held with Mr. Stuart Fraser Vice Chairman of Cantor Fitzgerald, Garza uses H. Joshua Garza as opposed to H. Josh Garza. Various internet Trolls and FUDsters refer to him as Homero Garza or Homero Josh Garza or just Mr. Scam Muggle. Mr Garza, allegedly, started his entrepreneurship with Optima Computers LLC in Brattleborough Vermont (VT) where he then branched out into the, alleged, oversubscription of Broadband service with his company Great Awk Wireless also called GAW High Speed Internet and shortened to GAW HSI. Having claimed to make millions with this service or sale of the company or something, Mr Garza then went on to the cryptocurrency industry where he, allegedly, applied the same oversubscription techniques to ASIC Mining with his platforms ZenMiner and ZenCloud selling virtual products called the Hashlet and Hashtaker. Sometimes referred to as CashLets, CashTakers and Ponsi's. Through the purported success of said platforms under a conglomerate of companies called Geniuses at Work or GAW for short Mr Garza, allegedly, moved on from GAW Miners LLC to a new company which should have provided a clean slate. Business Technology for Cryptocurrency LLC or BTC LLC for short which matches the domain name BTC.com puportedly purchased for 1.1 Million USD, was born. This company launched several platforms such as PayBase at Paybase.com and paycoin known as XPY. The PayBase platform allegedly destroyed the products PayFlash (gyft) PaySave (zincsave) as well as others. The Paycoin "Currency" allegedly destroyed the concepts of HybridFlex, FundSafe, Huh. After much public scrutiny Mr Homero Joshua Garza married to Jessica Garza then set out to not own the platforms Coinstand at coinstand.com (which used an, allegedly, embezzled codebase called zincsave to purchase from Amazon violating the ToS) and mineral at mineral.com (which used an, allegedly, embezzled codebase called coin-swap). These new ventures were purportedly related to Hong-Kong, hong kong, while rumor persists of Dubai being the real location.

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[Buckeye2015]

====> ... I dont expect many people to trust http://www.primeblocks.com/ but i built it to prove to ourselves that gaw or the foundation were not also using the key we were provided. ....

wow so wait.. now you are actually continuing to build websites for Josh/GAW ? nice work lmfao

So why is almost everything on that web page staking at 350?  I thought they were all supposed to change to 100% back on Apr 20th?

[miaviator]

====> ... I dont expect many people to trust http://www.primeblocks.com/ but i built it to prove to ourselves that gaw or the foundation were not also using the key we were provided. ....

wow so wait.. now you are actually continuing to build websites for Josh/GAW ? nice work lmfao

So why is almost everything on that web page staking at 350?  I thought they were all supposed to change to 100% back on Apr 20th?

The identifiers are static as 350,100,20,10 the new stake rates are independent of the identifiers.

[Buckeye2015]

====> ... I dont expect many people to trust http://www.primeblocks.com/ but i built it to prove to ourselves that gaw or the foundation were not also using the key we were provided. ....

wow so wait.. now you are actually continuing to build websites for Josh/GAW ? nice work lmfao

So why is almost everything on that web page staking at 350?  I thought they were all supposed to change to 100% back on Apr 20th?

The identifiers are static as 350,100,20,10 the new stake rates are independent of the identifiers.

So, they're presenting the identifier in the stake rate column instead of the stake rate?

[miaviator]

====> ... I dont expect many people to trust http://www.primeblocks.com/ but i built it to prove to ourselves that gaw or the foundation were not also using the key we were provided. ....

wow so wait.. now you are actually continuing to build websites for Josh/GAW ? nice work lmfao

So why is almost everything on that web page staking at 350?  I thought they were all supposed to change to 100% back on Apr 20th?

The identifiers are static as 350,100,20,10 the new stake rates are independent of the identifiers.

So, they're presenting the identifier in the stake rate column instead of the stake rate?

It was built by that guy from cryptsy.

Built By Mullick And Cryptsy Staff

What do you think he is competent?

[cryyptc]

====> ... I dont expect many people to trust http://www.primeblocks.com/ but i built it to prove to ourselves that gaw or the foundation were not also using the key we were provided. ....

wow so wait.. now you are actually continuing to build websites for Josh/GAW ? nice work lmfao

So why is almost everything on that web page staking at 350?  I thought they were all supposed to change to 100% back on Apr 20th?

The identifiers are static as 350,100,20,10 the new stake rates are independent of the identifiers.

So, they're presenting the identifier in the stake rate column instead of the stake rate?

It was built by that guy from cryptsy?

What do you think he is competent?

give the kid a break he did it on his own time as a favor to josh for the free equipments ! keep calm and paycorn

[miaviator]

====> ... I dont expect many people to trust http://www.primeblocks.com/ but i built it to prove to ourselves that gaw or the foundation were not also using the key we were provided. ....

wow so wait.. now you are actually continuing to build websites for Josh/GAW ? nice work lmfao

So why is almost everything on that web page staking at 350?  I thought they were all supposed to change to 100% back on Apr 20th?

The identifiers are static as 350,100,20,10 the new stake rates are independent of the identifiers.

So, they're presenting the identifier in the stake rate column instead of the stake rate?

It was built by that guy from cryptsy?

What do you think he is competent?

give the kid a break he did it on his own time as a favor to josh for the free equipments ! keep calm and paycorn

Hey cryyptc

Vlad you are a piece of shit you scumbag.

Here is what it took to buy the original paycoin people out:

Owsley,


Since I do not know where this document came from, and I have only been dealing with you. Please respond with your full name stating you are in agreement. I have copied the document bellow.


/DRAFTED BY THE ORIGINAL PAYCOIN DEVELOPERS.
December 24, 2014
AGREEMENT OF SETTLEMENT
THIS AGREEMENT made and entered into this 24th day of December, 2014, by and
between #originalpaycoin developers and Josh Garza(CEO GAW miners)
In reference to version of bitcoin: Paycoin – Symbol PYC
In consideration of the mutual promises agreed upon, the parties hereto agree as follows:
Article I. UPON PAYMENT OF THE AMOUNT OF 25% of 5150 XPY (1287.5 XPY)
THE ORIGINAL PAYCOIN PROJECT DEVELOPERS WILL CEASE ALL DEVELOPMENT ON
THE ORIGINAL VERSION OF PAYCOIN(PYC) AND FOCUS INSTEAD ON SUPPORTING
ONGOING DEVELOPMENT OF THE NEW PAYCOIN (XPY); OUR COMMUNITY WILL
STRIVE TO SUPPORT THE NEW PAYCOIN (XPY) VIA INDEPENDENT FREELANCE
PROMOTION, SHARING ONGOING TECHNICAL INSIGHTS and SOFTWARE BUG
REPORTING.
Section 1.01 AGREEMENT OF PAYMENT SCHEDULE
(a) 5150 XPY will be divided over 4 months as follows = 1287.5 x (4 months)
(i) 1287.5 XYP on 12/24/2014 23:59:59 EST
(i) 1287.5 XPY on 1/24/2015 23:59:59 EST
(ii) 1287.5 XPY on 2/24/2015 23:59:59 EST
(ii) 1287.5 XPY on 3/24/2015 23:59:59 EST/DRAFTED BY THE ORIGINAL PAYCOIN DEVELOPERS.
December 24, 2014
Section 1.02 IF PAYMENT SCHEDULE IS NOT COMPLETED THIS AGREEMENT IS NULL
AND VOID
(a) SECURITY INTEREST IN PAYCOIN (PYC) IS RESERVED UNTIL THE PAYMENT SCHEDULE IS
COMPLETED ON OR AROUND 3/24/2015
(b) IN THE EVENT OF DEFAULT UNDER THIS AGREEMENT BY JOSH GARZA, DEVELOPMENT
OF THE ORIGINAL PAYCOIN (PYC) MAY CONTINUE AND THE ORIGINAL PAYCOIN
DEVELOPERS WILL NOT BE BOUND BY THIS AGREEMENT.
Section 1.03 MANNER OF PAYMENT
(a) THE DOWNPAYMENT AND BALANCE WILL BE MADE AS FOLLOWS
(i) Exchange Name: Bittrex
(ii) XPY ADDRESS : PNubeGQTMcDCUqj3AQ25jdMd7sD68CiHzv
Section 1.04 MISCELLANEOUS
(a) THIS AGREEMENT REPRESENTS THE ENTIRE UNDERSTANDING OF ALL THE PARTIES
HERETO, SUPERSEDES ANY AND ALL OTHER PRIOR AGREEMENTS BETWEEN THE PARTIES
AND DECLARES ALL SUCH PRIOR AGREEMENTS BETWEEN THE PARTIES NULL AND VOID.
(b) THE TERMS OF THIS AGREEMENT MAY NOT BE MODIFIED OR AMENDED, EXCEPT IN
WRITING
(c) THIS AGREEMENT AND ALL MATTERS RELATING TO IT SHALL BE GOVERNED BY THE
LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES.

fyi Josh never made it beyond the first payment! $PYC is the real "paycoin" ....*stay tuned*

Anyone following up on this?   Was the trademark dispute actually denied? 

[coinmaster222]

Why does the community just not fork the coin,leaving about 4 million in the wild after cutting out the PCs rebrand the coin and try to make a go of it themselves

[miaviator]

Why does the community just not fork the coin,leaving about 4 million in the wild after cutting out the PCs rebrand the coin and try to make a go of it themselves

Which community?

The one full of greed?

The one that wants the coin and everything related to go away?

The one that wants everyone who has so much as said paycoin to go to jail?

The one that claims to want independence from garza yet leaves 30-40% of the network under his or some unknowns control?

The exchanges?  ROFL

[mutha]

Homero says "fuck your transparency":

of course Josh knows who the guys are. Why wouldn't he know who the guys in this totally independent group are.

Is this a new record, he almost made it 24 hours without revealing that he is behind the new shell company thrown up as a distraction.

The "guy" you said?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=WzhW20hLp6M#t=104

Oddly enough there is no sign of CPIG authorized to do business in CA, or that the California Department of Business Oversight has any records. (since that is the address of their International Conglomerate Whirled HQ being listed.)

http://www.dbo.ca.gov/resources/default.asp

I havent checked my state Securities registry.... but feel free to check your state Security regulator.

and I cant find anything about this CPIG fund with the SEC either... man they must really be covert and secretive.

Unregistered securities offerings/sales will start a shit storm on most any State and Federal Level... of course with all these Geniuses at work already know that? I mean Blue Sky registry/compliance laws for Investment Funds arent really a big deal when you are covert and big time like cPIG.


I wonder if the cPIG will do any telemarketing or infomercials at 3 am?

[Paul Revere]

What is this address: PNiCoNwxmcUQNEDXkRW4rqmHxTwbDFfx3Z   https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?251786.htm  ?

Doing a rough check on the stake rate it was 10.9% on 4/15 and on 4/27 (The last full day available) it is right @ 15%. These numbers are derived from a whole days stake. This address is not on Mugglick's list.

Also, I just checked the address given as payment for the PYC devs, and it shows only 1 payment. Not to say they could not have received payment in other addresses or even in BTC, etc, although I find it unlikely Homero would pay them in anything other than his free Monopoly Money. Paying them in XPY guarantees that they will be actively shilling the coin, especially when it is in installments.

The address given happens to be a Bittrex address: PNubeGQTMcDCUqj3AQ25jdMd7sD68CiHzv  https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PNubeGQTMcDCUqj3AQ25jdMd7sD68CiHzv.htm



Not sure what to think about the XPY sitting there until 3/7. Might just have not been added to the main wallet? Hard to believe these guys would be so naive as to not cash that in when it was worth $10+ per XPY.

[keshuker]

Best thing Cryptsy could do now is to delist Paycoin and list Paycon, because I would actually like to buy some CON and I think neither Cryptsy or Bittrex have CON?

This would be the definitive win-win for both Crytpsy and its customers/victims depending on which route they choose from here

GO LONG ON CON NAO

[Phildo]

Why does the community just not fork the coin,leaving about 4 million in the wild after cutting out the PCs rebrand the coin and try to make a go of it themselves

The only value this coin has ever had is what turned out to be empty promises from the people with the prime controllers that they would pay x for the coin.

Cutting those people out destroys the value. Letting those people have money making machines + nothing to do with the coins but dump will destroy the value.

the only way for paycoin to succeed is for Ganza/GAW/whoever to uphold the promises they made, but doing that makes 0 financial sense for thsoe people, so it won't happen.

This thing is dead, we just need to keep beating the dead horse to stop more suckers from trying to breathe life into it.

[miaviator]

What is this address: PNiCoNwxmcUQNEDXkRW4rqmHxTwbDFfx3Z   https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?251786.htm  ?

Doing a rough check on the stake rate it was 10.9% on 4/15 and on 4/27 (The last full day available) it is right @ 15%. These numbers are derived from a whole days stake. This address is not on Mugglick's list.

Also, I just checked the address given as payment for the PYC devs, and it shows only 1 payment. Not to say they could not have received payment in other addresses or even in BTC, etc, although I find it unlikely Homero would pay them in anything other than his free Monopoly Money. Paying them in XPY guarantees that they will be actively shilling the coin, especially when it is in installments.

The address given happens to be a Bittrex address: PNubeGQTMcDCUqj3AQ25jdMd7sD68CiHzv  https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PNubeGQTMcDCUqj3AQ25jdMd7sD68CiHzv.htm

https://i.imgur.com/ySV4Aam.jpg

Not sure what to think about the XPY sitting there until 3/7. Might just have not been added to the main wallet? Hard to believe these guys would be so naive as to not cash that in when it was worth $10+ per XPY.

10 and 15% stake rate on 1,200 coins?   Is that from the wallet only being online/staking on certain days?

[Paul Revere]

What is this address: PNiCoNwxmcUQNEDXkRW4rqmHxTwbDFfx3Z   https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?251786.htm  ?

Doing a rough check on the stake rate it was 10.9% on 4/15 and on 4/27 (The last full day available) it is right @ 15%. These numbers are derived from a whole days stake. This address is not on Mugglick's list.

Also, I just checked the address given as payment for the PYC devs, and it shows only 1 payment. Not to say they could not have received payment in other addresses or even in BTC, etc, although I find it unlikely Homero would pay them in anything other than his free Monopoly Money. Paying them in XPY guarantees that they will be actively shilling the coin, especially when it is in installments.

The address given happens to be a Bittrex address: PNubeGQTMcDCUqj3AQ25jdMd7sD68CiHzv  https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PNubeGQTMcDCUqj3AQ25jdMd7sD68CiHzv.htm

https://i.imgur.com/ySV4Aam.jpg

Not sure what to think about the XPY sitting there until 3/7. Might just have not been added to the main wallet? Hard to believe these guys would be so naive as to not cash that in when it was worth $10+ per XPY.

10 and 15% stake rate on 1,200 coins?   Is that from the wallet only being online/staking on certain days?

No, there are ~148,000 coins in the top address. The bottom address is the ~1,200 XPY down payment to the PYC devs.

On 4/27 there were exactly 60 XPY staked on 148,589 coins at the start of the day, which is ~14.9%/year

P.S: I chose days where there was a full days stake the day before to try to eliminate a delayed payout from the day before being added to the day I was checking. I am going to try checking say 10 full days stake to see what that comes up with, but it looks like this address is staking at at least 10%.

[DARKANGEL6415]

I guess theres an article where Joe gave a statement.

Mordica claims he does not own the Prime Controllers, but that he does manage five of them for a “non-profit.” In addition, he states that he didn’t obtain them in any underhanded way.

    “I don’t own anything. I volunteer for a non-profit organization that manages the 5 Prime Controllers [Josh Garza] is referring to. I never ‘came into possession[‘] of anything so this is incorrect and documented. I believe you have seen the contract signed by XPY Dev and Josh that explains the terms of the transaction and how it took place? It seems Josh is attempting to personalize things. Again, I am volunteer supporting a cause I believe in with no income from any organization (simply because I was offered the opportunity to help businesses grow and maintain the value of Paycoin while doing so). Hopefully this helps.
    Additionally I was offered a Prime Controller by Josh and questioned its origin. After becoming aware that it belonged to the foundation, I declined the offer. I then declined future offers of employment by Josh.”

http://www.miningpool.co.uk/former-paycoin-developer-joe-mordica-speaks-about-gaws-power-bill-and-prime-controller-issue/

He doesn't own anything he "volunteers" for a non profit org that just happens to own 5 PC's looks nice on paper boys.

so what was this non profits orgs that was using the paycoin for the business / org i dont ever recall seeing any names of any listed anywhere on here or named by gaw 

[Paul Revere]

Update: There isn't a good number of consecutive days where that address staked a full day to try to figure out a longer sample. It does appear to be staking at more than 10% from the best days available to check.

[deep.throat]

What is this address: PNiCoNwxmcUQNEDXkRW4rqmHxTwbDFfx3Z   https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?251786.htm  ?

Doing a rough check on the stake rate it was 10.9% on 4/15 and on 4/27 (The last full day available) it is right @ 15%. These numbers are derived from a whole days stake. This address is not on Mugglick's list.

Also, I just checked the address given as payment for the PYC devs, and it shows only 1 payment. Not to say they could not have received payment in other addresses or even in BTC, etc, although I find it unlikely Homero would pay them in anything other than his free Monopoly Money. Paying them in XPY guarantees that they will be actively shilling the coin, especially when it is in installments.

The address given happens to be a Bittrex address: PNubeGQTMcDCUqj3AQ25jdMd7sD68CiHzv  https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PNubeGQTMcDCUqj3AQ25jdMd7sD68CiHzv.htm

https://i.imgur.com/ySV4Aam.jpg

Not sure what to think about the XPY sitting there until 3/7. Might just have not been added to the main wallet? Hard to believe these guys would be so naive as to not cash that in when it was worth $10+ per XPY.

10 and 15% stake rate on 1,200 coins?   Is that from the wallet only being online/staking on certain days?

No, there are ~148,000 coins in the top address. The bottom address is the ~1,200 XPY down payment to the PYC devs.

On 4/27 there were exactly 60 XPY staked on 148,589 coins at the start of the day, which is ~14.9%/year

P.S: I chose days where there was a full days stake the day before to try to eliminate a delayed payout from the day before being added to the day I was checking. I am going to try checking say 10 full days stake to see what that comes up with, but it looks like this address is staking at at least 10%.

Perhaps it's the devs 'testing' Orion 'controllers' LULZ

[miaviator]

Update: There isn't a good number of consecutive days where that address staked a full day to try to figure out a longer sample. It does appear to be staking at more than 10% from the best days available to check.

It would have changed after the fork if it's a PC?

[suchmoon]

Update: There isn't a good number of consecutive days where that address staked a full day to try to figure out a longer sample. It does appear to be staking at more than 10% from the best days available to check.

If it averages ~5% over 10 days then it's probably ok. It may have higher payouts on some days if it's been offline for a while.